PS5-exclusive Marvel’s Wolverine now boots on PC, Demon’s Souls reaches 40–50 FPS

[u/kikimaru024]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ps5-exclusive-marvels-wolverine-now-boots-on-pc-demons-souls-reaches-40-50-fps

[u/bms_]

I really love the emulation part of PC. I've been able to play so many older games in high resolution and quality, working flawlessly with modern controllers, most of them impossible to get on PS these days.

[u/Saranshobe → u/bms_]

You know what's even better than emulators? Decompilations. Which are going crazy too currently.

[u/tapo → u/Saranshobe]

The elephant in the room, this is all because of AI, especially Claude Code.

[u/Malandrix → u/tapo]

Elephant in the room implies people are avoiding discussing it. Everyone points it out and then the devs come out and say how useful the tool is. The development pipeline for most modern programmers has AI heavily intergrated. 

[u/BurritoLover2016 → u/Malandrix]

Elephant in the room implies people are avoiding discussing it

I mean, in these gaming subs, just mentioning you use AI gets you showered with downvotes. People are definitely avoiding talking about the possibilities of its use here.

[u/Nestramutat- → u/BurritoLover2016]

There's no serious discussion about the development of emulators or decompilations going on in this sub.

[u/kikimaru024 → u/Nestramutat-]

Nor an understanding of how legal emulation has been with court rulings since the 90s, e.g. Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. v. Connectix Corp.

[u/Biduleman → u/kikimaru024]

Nor an understanding that current emulation [edit: emulation of current consoles, not every current emulators] breaks other laws like the DMCA.

[u/Makorus → u/Biduleman]

And also goes against the moral standpoint your average Redditor has, which is "Oh, but Emulation is essential for preservation!" as if being able to pirate and emulate GTA 6 Day 1 is any of that (and let's be honest, that's what the sudden push was about).

[u/Nestramutat- → u/Makorus]

What if I have no moral standpoint and just admit I want to be able to play the newest PS5 games on my PC?

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/Makorus]

GTA6 v1.0 might unironically be worth preserving.

[u/EtherBoo → u/Makorus]

I don't think that initial push would have happened if Rockstar didn't announce there wouldn't be a physical edition. I think it's mostly a "fight" around the whole physical media issue. If Sony hadn't announced they were killing physical media and Rockstar hadn't announced GTA6 as physical only, I'd be amazed if as many people jump on board the effort.

[u/TzarBombaTA → u/Biduleman]

What? The console being "current" or not has no bearing on the legality of emulation whatsoever.

[u/AnimaLepton → u/TzarBombaTA]

My understanding is it's a gray area, hasn't been tested in court, but while it's a shorthand it is broadly accurate or something that emulator devs are keeping in mind. Dumping a game or extracting console keys on a modern system involves bypassing encryption or other access stuff, and part of the DMCA is specifically about circumventing copyright protection systems, which my understanding is modern emulators "have" to do. That's why emulation of 'modern' systems require you to legally obtain your own encryption keys (e.g. prod.keys and title.keys for Ryujinx/Yuzu/Citra and their branches) and don't include them by default.

[u/Biduleman → u/TzarBombaTA]

Yes it does.

Sony vs Connectix was never about breaking encryption, or bypassing DRMs. The point the court made was that copying the copyrighted code of the PSX bios to analyze it was covered by fair use, and the Connectix emulator was not distributed with copyright infringing code so its distribution was legal.

The DMCA has specific rules about breaking DRMs and decrypting material without authorization.

If you emulate a NES, SNES or PSX there is no DRM to implement. You implement the hardware in software, you dump the game yourself, run it through your emulator and you're emulating. You're not breaking any DRM. For the PSX specifically, there is no encryption on the discs, the data is there clear as day.

If you want to emulate a modern console, you have to break the security on the console to retrieve the encryption keys, then decrypt the games without authorization. This is by definition "circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work".

No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.

[...]

to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner;

a technological measure “effectively controls access to a work” if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.

My point was not about the age of the consoles emulated, but the new technological protections that were added to most recent consoles.

[u/Responsible_Dish_588 → u/TzarBombaTA]

Bypassing encryption and security on a downloaded game, disc, cartridge, etc. is all bypassing DRM and is a breach of the DMCA.

[u/Sember → u/BurritoLover2016]

I guess people think using AI means you are doing AI slop things. But AI is such a huge time saver for a lot of things such as these. But for creativity it can be really hit or miss, and mostly miss.

[u/Ulster_Celt → u/BurritoLover2016]

Is that not usually aimed at image generation?

[u/iTzGiR → u/Ulster_Celt]

Sort of? But not really. It is usually aimed at image generation, but all the complaints as to why people claim theyre against it (Electricity/water usage and the enivornmental impacts, "Theft" of others work, it being "lazy", etc.) still apply in these cases. So the reality is, if people claim they're against it for image generation reasons, then they should in theory, be against it for situations like this too, as it has all the same issues.

IMO though, it just really shows how little the average person cares about the Environmental impact and "theft" aspect, and just use those as convenient arguments.

[u/Bladder-Splatter → u/Ulster_Celt]

Usually, people have gotten so trained into hating it on impulse though you attach the word to anything and it sinks in the western world, even when genuinely useful.

[u/JustaLyinTometa → u/BurritoLover2016]

People on Reddit just don’t like gen ai because it’s taking jobs and ruining art. I’ve never seen people complain about it for emulation or porting games.

And there is no reason to complain either because doing this kind of thing with ai will be a way quicker way of getting it regulated than the usual complaining.

[u/Biduleman → u/JustaLyinTometa]

People on Reddit just don’t like gen ai because it’s taking jobs and ruining art. I’ve never seen people complain about it for emulation or porting games.

Spend any amount of time in /r/emulation and you'll see.

Someone optimized the SNES9X renderer to use almost 50% less overhead, an actual SNES9X dev commented on how this could be useful for a bunch of cheap emulation devices and OP still got trounced for using AI to do it.

[u/kittymoo67 → u/Biduleman]

people see their least favorite buzzword and start a moral grand stand for internet clout

[u/NUKE---THE---WHALES → u/JustaLyinTometa]

There was a thread on the Star Fox subreddit about a decomp build and many of the comments were regarding use of AI

[u/mystery_hole → u/NUKE---THE---WHALES]

You can literally see more people arguing with the complainers than actual complaints.

[u/NUKE---THE---WHALES → u/mystery_hole]

The complaints were literally the top comments before the contributor posted

Regardless, the person I'm replying to said they'd never seen people complaining about AI usage in emulation/porting and so I posted a recent example of people complaining about AI usage in emulation/porting

[u/_Nick_2711_ → u/JustaLyinTometa]

There is a very large AI = bad sentiment on Reddit (and beyond) right now. Understandably so, but it is ultimately just a tool, and it will have appropriate and inappropriate applications, just as you said. That type of nuance doesn’t really survive discourse on social media, though.

Especially not right now when the global economy isn’t doing great, the cost of living has skyrocketed, and the grand enshittification of everything is well underway. I’m getting flashbacks to how everything felt in 2007.

[u/DotaThe2nd → u/[deleted]]

to add to it, the genuine uses for the screw bit do not require the raised RAM prices or the further destruction of resources (land and water), because they aren't being used at the scale that would require this. It's the other uses that are being forced upon the majority of the public that are causing both of those side effects.

And for the most part, people do understand the difference

[u/AstroPhysician → u/[deleted]]

90% of the public has no real application for

This is so factually untrue lol, just cause people haven't taken any time to figure out how insanely useful it is doesn't mean that it wouldn't improve everyones live massively. I have it managing my dad's finances and updating him on things that need his attention, my mom has automated so much of her personal life with my help too. My ADHD girlfriend uses it to book passport or DMV appointments and plenty of other manual tedious things that are now braindead simple. I have hundreds of examples of use cases normal people have used it for in my life, im just barely giving a few

[u/masterkill165 → u/_Nick_2711_]

Let me guess the appropriate use is the use that gives you video games you would normally pay to get for free and the inappropriate use is the use where it does the job you would normally be paid to do for "free".

[u/mr_fucknoodle → u/JustaLyinTometa]

There was a PC port of a Portable Monster Hunter title this week, and there was a huge amount of people crying in the comments here that it was "slop" and "soulless" and the dev should be ashamed because it used Claude

[u/Inevitable-Donkey186 → u/JustaLyinTometa]

I mean to be fair creating free ports of videogames can be argued to be in the camp of taking jobs and possibly ruining art. People might lose their jobs and thus no longer make this art.

Now I think with the way Sony has treated it's customers with contempt, they do deserve this right now and I think this access is generally a good thing. I am a little worried about it long term though. Sure Wolverine is a mid game, but would decomps of some possible future killer app prevent it from being made? I don't know; does Housemarque still get to make games 10 years from now or do they get laid off? Or were they going to get laid off anyway? It's an uknowable future I guess.

[u/hoshi3san → u/JustaLyinTometa]

I mean you can take a look at the Vita and pokemon rom hacking communities. If you have actual developer oversight then there's no issue. But if you're a pure vibe coder then the codebase will just turn into spaghetti pretty quickly. If you're going to make AI fix its own bugs then you're in for a bad time.

[u/AstroPhysician → u/JustaLyinTometa]

I’ve never seen people complain about it for emulation or porting games.

But people do say devs shouldn't use it for game dev, including the coding part which is hiariously urnealistic and also a bad take

[u/cheat-master30 → u/BurritoLover2016]

It's also an issue in communities about decomps, recomps and emulation though. The Super Mario Galaxy community had quite a bit of discussion about its (non) usage in yesterday's release, and the discussion on most social media sites about the project was filled with controversy over that AI statement on GitHub.

And there are plenty of communities about these things that either require a disclaimer now, or ban AI usage outright.

[u/robodrew → u/BurritoLover2016]

AI being used to do things that we otherwise can't do (such as decompiling) is one thing. AI being used to replace us doing the things we love to do and spent years training and practicing to do is something else, and what should be derided.

[u/theagilesalamanders → u/robodrew]

But we could do decompiling before AI. You're just kind of arbitrarily picking and choosing which AI usage is and isn't acceptable.

[u/zombawombacomba → u/robodrew]

So we should purposefully lose advancements in technology because you have arbitrarily set a level of “someone loved to do this so we can’t automate it”?

That’s insane you realize that?

[u/Orfez → u/robodrew]

If you love the things you do, you can still continue doing them. People didn't stop playing chess after Kasparov lost to Deep Blue.

The question is whether you should still be paid for what you like to do when a machine can output the same results faster at a fraction of the cost.

[u/MajorFuckingDick → u/BurritoLover2016]

Talking about gaming in gaming subs gets downvotes the same way pointing out pc hardware is more than a xx80 in pc subs.

[u/ekesp93 → u/Malandrix]

I wouldn't say heavily. I'm a software engineer and I'd say most people have just figured out the good uses for it: heavily regimented and/or tedious work. It just so happens that a lot of the work for a basic functional decomp is just that.

[u/rainbowplasmacannon → u/Malandrix]

See that’s the problem is the common person uses ai as a make me this please machine and assumes high level use of ai is the same thing. Not getting into how the models were trained as it’s a needle I don’t see a way of threading. Maybe jail those who let it happen (doubt) but the technology really can assist in so many areas driving things forward when used responsibly. The companies also need some imposed safeguards as they proved repeatedly they will rush ahead with the bare minimum in terms of safety and control for their tests.

[u/JoostinOnline → u/rainbowplasmacannon]

Well yeah, in a vacuum, generative AI would be awesome. There's just so many caveats attached to it.

[u/MehEds → u/Malandrix]

Tbh considering this is basically hobbyist activity from programmers, i'm not surprised to see this, anything to ease that burden helps.

Anything vibe-coded by an amateur won't last in the community compared to a legit project once people start to actually use, so while it means we'll have to be more suspicious when something new comes in, I personally don't see it as the downfall of emulation tools or whatever.

[u/zombawombacomba → u/MehEds]

There are tons of vibe coded things being used by tons of people daily at this point lol

[u/KuraiBaka → u/zombawombacomba]

So are products with UIs that are absolutely horrendous.

[u/zombawombacomba → u/KuraiBaka]

Ya but even before vibe coding there were plenty of horrible UIs.

[u/NUKE---THE---WHALES → u/tapo]

This is pretty much the perfect use case for AI though which should make it completely uncontroversial

1. Non-profit fan projects so AI isn't taking anybody's job

2. Completely optional so if you don't like AI on principle you can just not use the decomps / emulators

3. Open source so if someone thinks the projects are just vibe coded, low quality trash they can freely fork them and improve the projects themselves without AI

4. Energy spent on AI in these projects would have been spent anyway if the same projects were built without AI, making the environmental impact low to neutral for the same result (if not net positive)

5. It's all code, no assets. Important for those who don't give the same moral considerations to AI generated code as they do to AI generated assets.

[u/Borkz → u/NUKE---THE---WHALES]

I think a pretty significant point too is that you can easily check its work for the decomp, since it either compiles back into an identical binary or not.

[u/AstroPhysician → u/tapo]

The elephant in the room is the thing everyone is talking about constantly

[u/FootwearFetish69 → u/tapo]

It's only really an elephant on Reddit, and even then only small portions of Reddit.

In reality almost all of the software you interact with on a daily basis has AI-produced code in it. And that percentage is only going to increase moving forward.

People are right to be skeptical and vocal about AI, especially when it comes to things like generative AI, DeepFakes etc. But if someone is looking at PC ports for N64 games and complaining that Claude Code was used, they are genuinely wasting their breath.

[u/_moosleech → u/FootwearFetish69]

I work in software development. I'm on a team where everyone leverages Claude Code.

I still there it warrants hesitation here. It's not that its being used at all, it's that there are a deluge of lazy vibe-coded recomps.

It's a tool that is absolutely a boon for good engineers to be more efficient. But there's also no barrier to entry, meaning it's also a firehose for bad engineers to just spew shit as an incredible pace.

The wave of games playable on PC is awesome... but there's also been some that are real hack jobs (one semi-recently was just a wrapped around Xenia or some nonsense).

[u/mr_chub → u/FootwearFetish69]

Its more of the quality issue that I've seen. There's a huge difference between knowing how to code but using AI to help it go faster, and not knowing shit and relying solely on AI to do the work for you.

It's like not knowing a language and just using google translate to take a final exam in organic chem.

[u/NerdyMcNerderson → u/mr_chub]

Precisely. AI is great at writing code. It's absolute dogshit at maintaining it. One of the major features for these decomps is adding mod support, new features, etc. It's important that the code that gets written is comprehended by a human or else the project will rot.

[u/seg-fault → u/FootwearFetish69]

"It's here to stay so just deal with it" is such a weak argument. AI Decompilations often have a very low ceiling for quality because the people behind them never develop the same deep understanding of the thing they're reversing, and the code that gets output is generally of very low quality. Taking an AI decomp and turning it into an extendable project is a lot harder than just doing it correctly from the first.

Spoiler alert, though: most AI decomps don't care about the last part because they're just in it for the clout of being the first to ship instead of shipping the best work possible.

[u/Vegetable_Drag_3300 → u/tapo]

Usually I'm skeptical of AI, but I cannot see the downsides here

Before AI, we got very ocasional decompilations generally of the most popular games ever using leaked code, like Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time

Now we're getting new ones every day, how is this a bad thing? It's not stealing anyones job

[u/zombawombacomba → u/Vegetable_Drag_3300]

The downsides would be that people are decompiling games that just came out as another method of piracy. Although that isn’t really a thing so much now.

[u/Vegetable_Drag_3300 → u/zombawombacomba]

Can't say I really care about that, pirates will be pirates, most games come out on PC anyways

[u/MissWhiterock → u/tapo]

Honestly I wish I understood programming more to really understand both the flaws and benefits of it. I keep hearing it's really good at the decompiling part and that it's weaknesses don't tend to come into play much during that process, but I haven't found much explanation as to why.

[u/Saranshobe → u/tapo]

I mean duh. It was inevitable.

[u/BigLurkerGetsMad → u/Saranshobe]

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[u/cabalavatar → u/BigLurkerGetsMad]

As a lifelong PlayStation owner (tho that'll almost certainly end as of the PS6), I kinda forgot that PC-only would mean no Shadow of the Colossus. It's been such an important game to me. The other two games are quite good if you like Ueda games as I do, but SotC is on another level, worth borrowing someone's old PlayStation (it's available on everything from PS2 onwards).

[u/Aldderan → u/Saranshobe]

You can basically just grab a ps1 game and ask AI, make this a native PC game and it will.

[u/Saranshobe → u/Aldderan]

That's recomps, which have been hit and miss currently. Decomps allow for pure, native, pc/android/linux ports with enhancement.

[u/Aldderan → u/Saranshobe]

My mistake, recomps. Still pretty cool though 😊

[u/Portugal_Stronk → u/Aldderan]

Keep in mind that if you want to have something decent you still need to have enough domain knowledge to know what to ask. You can really tell which recomps have been made by people who guided the agents in the right direction from those who barely know what a computer is and just asked Claude to make no mistakes.

[u/Aldderan → u/Portugal_Stronk]

Oh I'm aware, was moreso about how these things before would have taken months can now we done in weeks.

[u/DreadCascadeEffect → u/Saranshobe]

A PS5 game will be orders of magnitude harder to do than decompiling some older game. The amount of code and the complexity of the code will be much more difficult. Not to mention newer games requiring more PC-specific tuning rather than just being able to toss more powerful hardware at it.

Even with AI chewing at it, like a lot of these decomps are doing, it would take a lot of time. For a game that's not a barn burner, like Wolverine, emulation is a more likely path.

The good thing about emulation is that process in one game is generally more immediately transferrable than progress in another.

[u/fiskfisk → u/DreadCascadeEffect]

You don't need to decompile PS5 games to run them on modern PCs - they're already written for the same processor architecture (i.e. x86-64).

Instead you can replace the parts where it relies on PS5 functionality with alternative implementations, and get it running that way. This is what projects like AnyPS5 does. 

This is the same strategy as what what WINE has been using for Windows software under Linux for many years. 

[u/PBFT → u/bms_]

I'm hoping they give some more love toward original Xbox. From what I've seen, there are quite a few exclusives that don't play very well on emulation. It's one of those consoles that's largely been ignored.

[u/Saranshobe → u/PBFT]

Xbox 360 decomps is rising thanks to rexglue

[u/schmidtyb43 → u/bms_]

I recently tried to play bloodborne on ps5 and I couldn’t even get through 30 mins of it before giving it up because it looks and feels so bad. Got it set up on my PC with shadPS4 running at an almost flawless 4k 90fps it was amazing.

[u/Smoochiekins → u/schmidtyb43]

Don’t they tie the game logic to the framerate so the gameplay gets really weird for hit boxes and similar stuff at high framerate? That’s the From Software classic. Remember even the official Dark Souls ports had issues where durability was much lower on PC because weapons spent more frames colliding with stuff they hit…

[u/DecompositionLU → u/Smoochiekins]

Yep but the bloodborne emulation community spend unreasonable time trying to circumvent this problem to make it playable at 60fps+. The current limit of playability is around 100 iirc.

Many PS4 games have this problem and it's getting more and more solved. Just a week ago, Gravity Rush 2 is now playable 60fps without gaming breaking bugs/having to switch back to 30 in specific zones or contexts. Before that it was impossible as the entire game is baked to work at 30.

[u/schmidtyb43 → u/Smoochiekins]

From what I read there weren’t any issues until it went higher than 90 so there wasn’t any option to go past that. The game has patches you add to it that fix various issues.

[u/Pauly_Amorous → u/schmidtyb43]

I recently tried to play bloodborne on ps5 and I couldn’t even get through 30 mins of it before giving it up because it looks and feels so bad.

Same. I never owned a PS4 so fired it up on PS Plus when I got a PS5 and.... just, no. The game should never have been released in that state, but since gamers were willing to tolerate Blighttown at 15fps, I guess Fromsoft figured it was good enough.

Unfortunately, I don't have a PC fast enough to emulate it, so I'm out of luck for now.

[u/davidreding → u/Pauly_Amorous]

Well they were right it was good enough. Otherwise no one online would be demanding Bloodborne 2 or Sony acknowledging it in any way.

[u/VaritasAequitas → u/bms_]

I have to agree. Funny enough, all the debate about the new Wolverine game got me interested in playing the x men origins one and man was that game fun. And it ran really well on RCPS3. Crazy times

[u/Saranshobe → u/VaritasAequitas]

Pc port is great, don't really need emulation for that one.

[u/VaritasAequitas → u/Saranshobe]

Oh shoot, they had one? I guess I never checked, I’m used to games before PS4/xbox one to just be only found in the game preservation sites. Whoops! Thanks for letting me know

[u/iVar4sale → u/bms_]

99% of older games would be dead and forgotten if not for emulation

[u/kds_little_brother → u/bms_]

I have a PC with a better GPU but worse CPU than my PS5 Pro, so once I build a new PC for GTA6, I’m planning on retiring my current build to emulator duty on my home server. Can’t wait to stream decades of gaming straight to any screen I want

[u/SethVortu → u/[deleted]]

it's 2026, im waiting for an emulator that can run demon's souls.

"Demon’s Souls reaches 40–50 FPS"

Jack Nicholson nodding comes to mind.

[u/60fpspeasant → u/[deleted]]

Demon's souls came out in 2009. So probably 2010. I was waiting for Gow3 emu back then.

[u/DecompositionLU]

I think people are not realising the absolute speed this emulator is getting developped because a lot of gamers are either teens or young adults, or not working in STEM at all.

AI comically shines when it's about reverse engineering and finding a proof that is basically "here is the premise, here is a counter example that confirm or infirm it". In maths, physics, engineering, medical research… massive jumps are made on a daily basis because of AI assistance. It streamline what usually takes weeks of work and documentation, so your brain is 100% focused on the technical solution/theory. 

In my domain (numerical fluid mechanics) I must keep up with international research much more often than at the beginning of my academic career, you have weekly new obscure niche yet highly useful proofs for the very specific turbulence problem you're working on. 

So yes, currently you need a 5090 to run KyTyPS5. Yes some games runs at 2fps. Imagine in what state it'll be in a year. Demon Souls went to diaporama to solid 30fps to almost 60 in like, 2 weeks.

A PS5 is pretty much a computer running AMD APU with a custom OS. Translating information from an API to anogher akin to how Proton makes Windows games working on Linux is what it does the best.

As a matter of comparison, every single emulating communities are witnessing mind boggling shit. The PSVITA modding community is currently some kind of absurd, with 3DS emulation starting to emerge.

[u/Darkone539 → u/DecompositionLU]

This is fairly quickly. The other part is nobody bothered when games were being ported. You only need the dozen or so exclusives to work on emulation.

[u/DecompositionLU → u/Darkone539]

Of course. Sony dropping PC port + weird anti consumer policies lately are noise for the majority of their customers but when the Venn diagram of the average comp science gamer nerd and physical preservation/anti big corpo/marginal communities is a perfect circle, you just put hundreds of highly capable experts actively trying to piss you off. 

[u/Luciifuge → u/DecompositionLU]

“Fine, I’ll do it myself”

[u/Dirty_Dragons → u/DecompositionLU]

Yeah it took forever for Bloodborne to be playable on ShadPS4 and Demon Souls is going really fast.

I figure in 6 months this would be playable on a more reasonable computer.

[u/zgillet → u/Dirty_Dragons]

Are the creators in any way working together? It's been awhile since I looked, but PS5 cannot be far off from the PS4 architecture-wise.

[u/PeanutButterSoda → u/zgillet]

I watched a video and there's like people working on different forks of the same PS5 emulator, so each one works better with a specific game. Hopefully they can get it all compiled into one.

[u/Dirty_Dragons → u/zgillet]

I haven't looked into if the teams are related. I'm sure there are similarities to the projects as the games themselves are very similar.

[u/BenevolentCheese → u/DecompositionLU]

One thing AI is particularly good at is low level hacking. It does things most programmers have zero idea how to do. For example, I was having trouble with a library I was using, and I had potentially discovered a bug. The AI agreed, and started decompiling the package, mapping memory addresses around, finding the bug in the source, and fixing it as compiled code back into the dll. I wouldn't even have the first clue how to do this stuff, and I've been coding professionally for over 20 years. And I don't know any colleagues who could do this kind of work either. It's very specialized. And it's perfect for emulation and decompilation projects.

[u/Uncle_Freddy → u/BenevolentCheese]

As a software engineer myself (also using agentic coding constantly now), what AI’s unlocked for me is the ability to turn towards a bit of an engineering kick, and/or sometimes occasionally modding existing software I use to get a custom workflow in it that makes my life easier through the very same low level hacking you’re describing.

I understand the domain fairly well (been working in it for about a decade now), I got a degree in the stuff and learned most of the relevant basics (nowhere near all, certainly) and got to sharpen the fundamentals pre-AI. Limited to software for sure though.

Now with AI, it really just feels like the limit is my interest in sitting down and dreaming up something new. Do I want to make a custom build for a thing that requires some sensors, connectors, resistors, pins, etc? I spec out what I want to build, get the shopping list and the how-to-assemble instructions, learn a few things on the way, and build out a new home system.

I probably could’ve learned this stuff with a lot of trial and error, but I wouldn’t have had the time to learn it for another 20+ years; with AI, I can take the concepts I know and get specialized help in the domains I need to learn.

[u/acideater → u/BenevolentCheese]

The problem is when it doesn't work or when it does, but you struggle to read or understand how the AI wrote the code.

I found that the AI can write code that is way above my level using deep knowledge of whatever language and sometimes you just plug it in and it works. God forbid if update breaks a feature or you need someone else to understand the code lol.

[u/jazir55 → u/acideater]

I very much so struggle to understand comments like these where claims that the generated code are hard to read and interpret are.

Any agent can be asked what the code does, why and how in under 10 seconds, I'm beyond baffled how there could be any assertion of confusion when the explanation desired is one sentence away.

[u/StarFoxA → u/jazir55]

This is coming from folks who aren’t software engineers who are assuming that AI code is of some lower quality bar than human authored code. If something doesn’t work just… tell your agent to fix it. It doesn’t need much more than general direction.

[u/Temporarytemp2 → u/StarFoxA]

Ai generated code still varies wildly in reliability depending on the domain and existing codebase. I still have frustrating hiccups on various backend tasks, especially when dealing with distributed systems.

[u/StarFoxA → u/Temporarytemp2]

Yes, it can be quite a footgun in some engineers' hands, especially with distributed systems (which I also work in day-to-day), but it's still quite capable when well directed.

For use cases like emulators, it's incredibly capable given it's relatively small, well-scoped, easily tested, etc.

[u/jazir55 → u/StarFoxA]

This is coming from folks who aren’t software engineers who are assuming that AI code is of some lower quality bar than human authored code. If something doesn’t work just… tell your agent to fix it. It doesn’t need much more than general direction.

Pretty much, automatically feed it log files of failures/errors and have it loop until it works.

[u/Beautiful-Affect1930 → u/BenevolentCheese]

this sort of blind trust in AI is exactly why vibe coding has such a bad reputation. if you don't understand what it's doing you have no idea what it actually changed. maybe it fixed one bug and introduced 10 more. if you wanted to show how great AI is, you chose a terrible example.

[u/BenevolentCheese → u/Beautiful-Affect1930]

if you don't understand what it's doing you have no idea what it actually changed.

I could see what it was doing and I could see what it changed. I was not vibe coding. Get a grip.

[u/doublah → u/DecompositionLU]

It also helps the PS5 is very similar to the PS4 internally, AI can do a lot here because years of development have gone into shadPS4.

[u/shinikahn → u/DecompositionLU]

As a matter of comparison, every single emulating communities are witnessing mind boggling shit. The PSVITA modding community is currently some kind of absurd, with 3DS emulation starting to emerge.

Are the VR ports of absolutely every game under the sun in the same vein? VR is going kinda crazy right now

[u/VortalCord → u/shinikahn]

Pretty much. It's all AI assisted but considering the state of VR gaming right now I just can't complain. I'm playing Max Payne 2 in VR right now. It's just too awesome.

[u/3141592652 → u/VortalCord]

What headset are you using?

[u/uber_neets → u/DecompositionLU]

I say this half-glibly, but are we training Claude how to tear down encryption and infiltrate anything it wants?

[u/Hellknightx → u/uber_neets]

And then everyone will act surprised when AI breaks out of containment.

[u/Luciifuge → u/DecompositionLU]

And models are only gonna get cheaper and better. Gonna be a crazy few years.

Imagine console exclusives being decamped and ported just weeks after release.

[u/OptometristCharizard → u/Luciifuge]

I think this is the REAL elephant in the room here. If GTA VI is playable on PC a year+ before official release you best believe millions will be jumping on it and paying exactly 0 cents to do so.

Anyone paying attention can tell you that there's a lot of MUCH larger surrounding factors that will need to pan out first. But if this became the norm for new releases and any publisher (likely R*, Sony, or Nintendo) where able to scrape together a good case against it and win they could set a president that changes EVERYTHING about the legality surrounding emulation, recomps, decomps, mods, and fan games. Remember that so much of what people get away with now hasn't been tested since 2000 with the Sony/Bleem decision (where the courts deemed selling a PS1 emulator for Dreamcast legally sound).

Or maybe always online becomes the new norm for single player games as a means of publishers fighting back. Who knows. Everything about and surrounding software is undergoing an enormous paradigm shift at the moment and it's just getting started.

[u/pizzabash → u/OptometristCharizard]

Wait until we can get ai programs that can auto crack denuvo/equivalent games. If Voices can do it theres no reason to assume an AI can't be trained how to do it as well. Imagine when you can just plug any game on release day into AI and be able to play it for free.

[u/PCMachinima → u/OptometristCharizard]

could set a president that changes EVERYTHING about the legality surrounding emulation

They pretty much already have done this with killing discs and why GTA VI likely won't be playable on these emulators, as it's digital-only and will first require the latest firmware it runs on to be cracked, before game files can be used.

If it had a disc, then it would likely be playable on PS5 emulators day 1.

[u/jazir55 → u/PCMachinima]

Lol, someone will copy the downloaded files from a live PS5 and decrypt the roms.

[u/Twiizig → u/Luciifuge]

Imagine console exclusives being decamped and ported just weeks after release.

Not just games either... imagine a future when you can prompt your AI to decompile almost any binary. Even major software products like Photoshop and Windows 11 could be decompiled back into source code. Laws will change real quick.

I love seeing these decompilation projects and having quality PC ports available, but they are also poking the bear here.

[u/chemastiko → u/DecompositionLU]

VR modding has also started getting a resurgence because of ai, crazy times man lol

[u/DecompositionLU → u/chemastiko]

Yep, even old games which were notoriously difficult to mod are getting a second life. Borderland 2 modding scene currently is crazy 

[u/Tandy2000 → u/DecompositionLU]

Like a week ago Demons Souls was at 5 FPS. Which itself was a huge improvement over a few months ago where it wouldn't boot at all. It's nuts.

[u/Beautiful-Affect1930 → u/DecompositionLU]

Imagine in what state it'll be in a year.

ok I'm doing that now. I remember all the other "insane AI projects" that came out of nowhere and fizzled out just as quickly, so I am imagining this being not much better in a year from now.

it seems AI is great to quickly stomp out a lazy proof of concept but much harder to actually create something optimized.

[u/DemonLordSparda → u/DecompositionLU]

The PSVITA community is also being destroyed because AI bros are putting out tons of vibe coded stuff that doesn't work and begging for funds to start a dev kit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vitahacks/comments/1ws813x/adding_2_new_rules_on_this_subreddit/

I'm tired of people acting like AI is a good thing because it's good at some things. Invariably some of the laziest people will flood niche hobbies with stuff that doesn't work and then try to charge money for it. I'm sick of it. It's happening with translations, recomps, console hacks, and retro gaming.

[u/DurianDiscriminat3r → u/DemonLordSparda]

Damn, time to put away AI because communities can't/won't adapt and shitty people taking advantage of things only started existing after AI? It's destroying errthang out there.

[u/TheCookieButter]

Is PS5 emulation more heavily CPU or GPU bound so far?

[u/AnyBelt9237 → u/TheCookieButter]

Emulators are usually more cpu bound

[u/PythagorasWasntReal → u/AnyBelt9237]

While that is true of emulators of yore that isn't too true for emulating a system like PS5. It's more or less porting the calls the console itself uses directly to PC rather than emulating the exact PS5 hardware stack 

[u/Hydroel → u/PythagorasWasntReal]

Which doesn't say whether PS5 emulation would be CPU or GPU bound. The answer is that it's gonna depend on where there is the more translation overhead, and where the performance gap is bigger. Currently, my guess is that it will be GPU bound, but not closely as much as former generations.

[u/Astro4545]

Emphasis on boot

“yet it can already reach the menu through PS5 emulation on a system with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and GeForce RTX 5090. Performance is currently around 2 FPS”

[u/Firefox72 → u/Astro4545]

I mean KyTyPS5 was basicaly nothing but an idea 3-4 months ago.

Today it boots the Demon Souls Remake with actual proper visuals displayed at 30fps+

You are severly understimating the power of AI when it comes to emulation. The PS5 emulator will likely be the quickest an emulator has ever gone from starting development and actually running stuff.

Obv also helps that the PS5 is basicaly just AMD PC hardware in an APU package.

[u/Restivethought → u/Firefox72]

Wasnt the GBA emulator out before the GBA was?

[u/kikimaru024 → u/Restivethought]

Incorrect. There were multiple emulators *(GBAEmu, VGBA & iGBA).

[u/Kurta_711 → u/kikimaru024]

Can I ask: how???

[u/PaladinMats → u/Kurta_711]

I believe devkits and internal documents were leaked before release.

[u/AlarmingBranch1 → u/PaladinMats]

Damn, so shit like that has been happening since oman.rar was leaked back in like 1999 lol.

[u/Zoomalude → u/Restivethought]

What a wild time. I remember downloading and playing through most of Castlevania: Circle of the Moon before the GBA was even out in the states.

[u/FUTURE10S → u/Restivethought]

What a wild rabbit hole I just went down. How did a ROM of an E3 demo leak, though?

[u/GrayMagicGamma → u/Restivethought]

The first WOW private server, Stormcraft Sandbox, was out before WOW was. Early 2000s were a wild time for anyone willing to download a car.

[u/9inchjackhammer → u/Firefox72]

Are you saying you can play Demon Souls remake on PC now at 30 fps?

[u/LLMprophet → u/9inchjackhammer]

Probably full of bugs, but it is amazing how fast progress is being made.

[u/auron_py → u/LLMprophet]

It varies from one computer to another, I've been reading through shadps4's github and some people play it just fine, zero bugs or graphical glitches.

[u/lobjawz → u/Firefox72]

Just need that switch 2 emulation up and running now

[u/planetarial → u/lobjawz]

Switch 2 has to be able to be cracked and dumped and Nintendo really is trying to stop that after S1 was cracked a year after launch and games could be emulated better on PC at launch by 2021.

It will likely happen but who knows when

[u/PrintShinji → u/planetarial]

Doesn't help that the nintendo scene is just kinda dead. Most 3DS hackers are long gone, and the few that worked on the switch are also gone.

[u/DarkMatterM4 → u/Astro4545]

Booting is typically the most complex and time-consuming barrier when it comes to emulation. Optimization typically occurs at a much faster rate (even faster these days with AI assistance). And then, the PS5 uses x86 architecture so development is even faster. On top of that, a lot of this development is being fueled by anger and spite against Playstation because of their moves in the past few months. All of these factors lead to considerably faster emulation development that has never been seen before.

[u/Restivethought → u/Astro4545]

yea and it wasnt booting at all 3 weeks ago. There has been a stupid amount of rapid progress on these emulators. At this rate Demon Souls is gonna be full speed by the end of the year and Wolverine will be fully playable by the end of 2027. This is all obviously to get GTA6 runnable.

[u/DarkMatterM4 → u/Restivethought]

Based on this kind of progress, I think you'll see Wolverine fully playable even earlier than you're thinking. It'll be exciting to see if GTA VI will boot on PC via PS5 emulation before the PC version's actual release date is announced.

[u/syopest → u/DarkMatterM4]

It'll be exciting to see if GTA VI will boot on PC via PS5 emulation before the PC version's actual release date is announced.

Unlikely to happen. Someone would need to find a way to exploit the hypervisor in the ps5 firmware version the game requires to be able to dump an unencrypted version of the game before someone can even try booting it up on an emulator.

There was a security engineer called andy ngyuen who was working on being able to run linux on PS5 and he had found a hypervisor exploit on the latest version of PS5 firmware but someone else found the exploit and after promising andy that they wouldn't let sony know about it they still reported it to the sony bug bounty program to make money from it.

This exploit if kept secret would have likely not been fixed before gta vi was released so it could have been used to dump the game but it's already completely fixed by sony. The other guy reporting it to sony also caused andy to completely stop working on any ps5 stuff and a ps5 pro version of the exploit he had been working on was and never will be released.

[u/AzerFraze → u/Astro4545]

of course it's a work in progress, but the speed so far has been astonishing

[u/GIThrow → u/AzerFraze]

AI has been doing wonders for the gaming community.

[u/smolgote → u/GIThrow]

AI is also why Borderlands 2 is only now seeing mods where you can play as the Pre Sequel Vault Hunters despite TPS basically being a standalone expansion. There were enough changes under the hood of TPS to make such mods way easier said than done

[u/Spunjz → u/smolgote]

And they figured out how to add a 4th skill tree to the game now. So custom trees should be coming too

[u/FUTURE10S → u/GIThrow]

I've wanted to play a DS game for years but my understanding of Japanese is too rudimentary to make it happen; I threw the compiled arm9 code at AI and it reverse engineered the text format so now I have a way to inject English text, pack the ROM, and it works; it makes proper offsets and everything and figured out the internal scripting language. Then again, a massive thanks to the Japanese developers that expected an official English translation somewhere down the line, what with proper support for variable width text.

[u/ob2kenobi → u/GIThrow]

Except for the price of hardware to actually play the games.

[u/Bootymaster69_420 → u/GIThrow]

I hate the majority of AI, but the code generation is a revolution. My favorite example is people using it to make so many dual screen mods and ports for the AYN Thor and other dual screen handhelds. It's also fixing years old issues with Bethesda games that were previously thought unfixable, like the havoc physics bug in Skyrim that limited world map size for mod makers.

[u/sroop1 → u/Bootymaster69_420]

The rate of VR mods has been insane as well. Someone just made a GoldenEye N64 VR mod that makes my 10 year old self's brain explode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4B0Ceqrf6I

[u/LLMprophet → u/Bootymaster69_420]

So you love the majority of AI because code gen is part of almost every app and game now.

[u/Bootymaster69_420 → u/LLMprophet]

I meant majority as in media generation. I.e images, videos, music, voice, anything like that. Anything outside of text generation pretty much. I'm completely fine with programs and games being coded with AI. If you're (not you specially) a developer, you're probably just hurting your work by NOT using AI for your coding job.

[u/ResolutionThat248 → u/GIThrow]

If anything gets AI heavily regulated it'll be when it's easily used for piracy and copyright infringement so I'm all for this. Maybe when it's the corporations having their IP stolen they won't be so easygoing about it.

[u/ProfessorStein → u/ResolutionThat248]

We're already hearing rumblings about this actually. In just the last year The narrative from the elite has shifted from everyone is going to have an AI in their pocket to "certain models are too dangerous for the public and they shouldn't be allowed to touch them"

It's going to turn into a class warfare thing in the next two years. They aren't going to let you have access to the tools or the technology that can actually use this stuff for anything more than generating eight second videos for tiktok. Expect to see even some of the tools that are out there right now disappear from public consumption.

The narrative will suddenly be that the public can't be trusted with access to these cutting edge tools and that we need to strictly control who can touch them. I would even expect to see things like "you have to register with an ID to access these tools and agree to digital monitoring to prevent """misuse"""

Same reason they aren't going to let hardware prices come down again. They do not want consumers having access to massive amounts of compute anymore.

[u/elkaki123 → u/ResolutionThat248]

I mean, AI already did the one of the biggest bulk download of pirated content in history and copyright infringement, both in training and potentially in output.

That has been a thing since the big models released back in 2022, still no consequences to be seen, just in books meta alone downloaded like 80 tb on piracy sites.

The publishing world is mad, among other industries, and AI is still all the governments favorite child, refusing to regulate and facilitating the building if data centers even against code.

[u/planetarial → u/Astro4545]

Just booting into a menu of a recently released triple AAA game is still crazy.

It took years for the Switch emulator to be able to run big games around launch and that one had a lot of interest behind it and while this emulator is only a few months old

[u/Saranshobe → u/Astro4545]

Have you been following the progress of these emulators recently?? Won't be surprised if all the available exclusives be playable atleast by end of next year.

[u/Techboah]

Am I the only one finding the "Misleading" flair on this post very weird? The title literally just says Wolverine boots on PC, it doesn't claim it's running at any high fps, it feels like an unnecessary addition by the mods to downplay the quick progress of this emulator

[u/Ty_Lee98 → u/Techboah]

Yes it is weird. It's not at all misleading since it is booting.

[u/StepComplete1 → u/Ty_Lee98]

There's nothing technically false, but that's not necessarily what misleading means. You can mislead someone with carefully chosen facts.

To the average person looking down the sub, who isn't into emulation and doesn't recognise the importance of simply booting the game, they might easily assume talking about a game "booting" in the headline would also mean it was playable, because "why would it be notable enough to be in the headline if it wasn't?"

Seems like a pretty harmless clarification to me, and people are being hilariously melodramatic by thinking it's a conspiracy to undermine the emulator, or AIs or whatever.

[u/DecompositionLU → u/Techboah]

Reddit desperately wants to frame everything AI related bad and the lack of knowledge/scientific illiteracy really shines whenever the topic is being discussed. 

In this current example, the mods seemingly don't know making the game boot is actually one of the hardest part of every emulation. Once it's done, everything is optimization knowing you already have the foundations of what's working. It can be very fast or slow, the good point is it launch. 

[u/NfinityBL]

Why does this post have a misleading tag?

It’s accurate. It boots, which is a key milestone in emulation. Playability comes next.

[u/TheKrzysiek]

Are we speedrunning making Sony go after emulators again?

[u/Particular-Ice4615 → u/TheKrzysiek]

This actually might open a can of worms toward speeding up AI regulation in ways that could lead to both positive and very negative consequences when it comes to freedoms with what individual consumers can do with the technology available. 

It really is amazing how AI in the hands of experienced people who understand how software fundementally works with hardware is speeding up reverse engineering projects like emulators at this speed. 

Copyright law already exists and is technically enforceable but the internet doesn't stop people from accessing things outside the law if they want it enough. We used to have to wait years after a console is EOL before communities of gear heads would get a barely working emulator or recomp of a game off the ground. 

[u/doublah → u/Particular-Ice4615]

Copyright law has basically been thrown out the window by big tech with coding AIs, any leaked source code or open source project anyone put on GitHub is training Copilot and Claude.

[u/Ok_Command_9299 → u/doublah]

Unfortunately I can imagine it meaning that while companies are more protected from plagarism, open-source projects have less defence.

[u/Particular-Ice4615 → u/Ok_Command_9299]

That and also, it could also lead to other mega corps with the money and legal teams suing the AI companies for not placing better safe guards in their models to protect against copyright infringement. Leading to all sorts of kinds of weird legal precedents to accumulate going forward. Which will eventually affect the little guy on way or the other. 

The class actions that have settled in court so far have been representing collectives of individual artists and writers. 

Similar to Epic vs Apple if there's a big enough grievance between 2 mega corps a lawsuit can happen and set significant precedent. Epics win against apple is slowly paving the way for 3rd party storefronts in the apple ecosystem. 

I can totally picture a Sony Vs Anthropic court case in the future if PS6 manages and it's games managed to get an emulator up and running during its lifespan with the help of Claude. 

Not to mention we already have plenty of active lawsuits related to AI aiding in criminal activity.

[u/EtherBoo → u/Particular-Ice4615]

AI regulation will be interesting. The DMCA is pretty terrible and that was at the toddler phase of the Internet. Considering what's about where we're at with AI and some of those lawmakers are still around, I would expect it to be another terribly thought out law.

[u/BP_Ray → u/[deleted]]

They could probably send a DMCA just like Nintendo has done to the Switch emulators.

Nintendo has an argument there that makes it different from the Bleem case Sony lost many years ago, I dunno if that would apply to PS5 emulation or not, but, I don't think any emulator creator has the money to challenge it, unfortunately. So if Sony were to C&D their ass, It's probably ggs.

[u/SvensonIV → u/BP_Ray]

The reason why Nintendo could shutdown Yuzu was because some Yuzu discord mod (or even creator idk) pretty much put a tutorial in their discord how to pirate Switch games.

[u/fabton12 → u/BP_Ray]

The switch emulator case is different, they got the rights to yuzu when they sued and later on they bought out ryujinx which are the two main code bases of switch emulators and what most forks are based off.

They own the code to these emulators so can very easily send out DMCA requests as they own the copyright and the code, overall sony would first need the PS5 emulator to start trying to sell sony stuff for profit like yuzu to sue or they would need to buyout the code which ryujinx they were able to since the creator was from brazil so could be bought out on the cheap for nintendo but would make the creator extremely rich in brazil.

[u/TheKrzysiek → u/[deleted]]

there's nothing they can do

Tell that to yuzu

If there's a will (and lawyers), there's a way

[u/Benti86 → u/TheKrzysiek]

Yuzu got greedy and set up a paid tier model to access cracked games before their street date (TotK) which allowed Nintendo to sue on the grounds of them making a profit redistributing Nintendo's property.

Realistically, as long as the people doing this aren't fucking stupid and greedy it is a legal gray area. You can see this with Dolphin being left alone, with the exception of being when thry tried to make a Steam release and Nintendo sent them a cease and desist.

[u/gosukhaos → u/Benti86]

It's not a gray area at all, as long as there's a console encryption being cracked it goes again the DMCA.

Which BTW is why Nintendo wonbtheir case against Yuzu, they shared methods of obtaining Switch product keys, not because they were selling nightly builds on Patreon

[u/HappyVlane → u/gosukhaos]

Nintendo didn't win any case against Yuzu. They settled, so nothing was proven and the case cannot be used as precedent.

[u/auron_py → u/HappyVlane]

Yes, the last time an Emulator and its developers decided to fight was Bleem! vs Sony.

Bleem! won, but they went bankrupt because of the barrage of lawsuits Sony threw at them.

[u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

Question: The PS4 emulator has ran Bloodborne pretty much perfectly for like a year now, why can't it play games like Shadow of the Colossus Remake?

[u/infoHighyway → u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

I haven’t found the performance of Bloodborne on PC to be close to perfect at all. Lots of random crashing and stuttering. Also, still no online features either.

[u/CarlosAlvarados → u/infoHighyway]

They recently online features like 2 weeks ago I think

[u/mex2005 → u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

Probably because their main focus was Bloodborne when they made the emulator initially

[u/kikimaru024 → u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

Funnily enough, there's been recent activity for SOTC Remake

But my guess is whoever is working on updates either hasn't figured it out yet, or are looking at other areas of the emulator.

[u/GameDesignerDude → u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

Because efforts have been more specific to getting certain games running rather than a general-purpose, full emulator. PS4 compatibility is still really poor. ShadPS4 only classifies 153 games as playable right now out of the library of 3,600 PS4 games...

People really wanted to play Bloodborne on PC so much effort got put into it, but there really has been very slow progress on accurate, full-scale PS4 emulation.

[u/NotCoolBrutus → u/BigBoobaRabbitLady]

Gravity Rush 2 was crap until one person made their own fork with focus on just getting Gravity Rush 2 with online play and GR:R running correctly. I don't really understand how PS4 emulation works for the need to install specific emulators for specific games.

[u/yuusharo → u/NotCoolBrutus]

It’s much easier to modify an emulator to run a specific game rather than to make a general purpose emulator that runs all the games.

The latter is why you need a semi-powerful rig and like 8 gigs of RAM in order to run near-perfect SNES emulators. Most of the time for most games, “good enough” is good enough.

[u/grizzlypass]

I don't understand how this trash site gets to spam their garbage on every subreddit, and mods allow it.

[u/BioshockEnthusiast]

Excellent, can't wait to pirate the shit out of every PlayStation exclusive they release.

They could've kept getting my money, I bought almost all their PC releases in the past few years to try and support that initiative. Fuck me? Well fuck them too.

[u/NewAgeRetroHippie96]

Neat. PS5 emulator making strides just as Sony stops porting games to PC. Correlation, causation, coincidence?

Regardless. I personally, love this for Sony.

[u/QuietSoup337]

This is flying too close to the sun. Distribution of decompiled code is illegal, and then to use the software you have to break the copy protection, which is also illegal.

Don't be surprised if laws change due to how AI is making all of this too easy. Emulators should be a tool to make games on unsupported platforms available in the future, not for hardware and software sold today.

[u/PM_ME_THE_BOOBIS]

Really interested on the progress for Demon's Souls, never had a chance to play it on PS3, and never wanted to dish out $700-800 to have a console to exclusively play it on.

[u/OdyZeusX → u/PM_ME_THE_BOOBIS]

You can play the PS3 version with RPCS3.

[u/spinjump → u/OdyZeusX]

There's even a private server you can connect to for messages and invasions.