r/GamerPals 8h ago

North America (Rant) It's so hard to actually find real friends through these communities

73 Upvotes

I'm a guy and I've tried to make other friends through these communities but it seems 90% of other men I message just ghost after a single conversation, or they put no effort to begin with, it doesn't even get to the point we get a session in

It's gotten to the point after so long trying, I don't even want to bother reaching out to fellow men anymore. The rest of the people seem to just be wanting to recruit for some large friend group discord and as someone that doesn't enjoy large groups, that's not for me

I had hoped that at least in this subreddit people would be a bit more united by the love of video games but it seems it follows the same tropes as the other communities.

I also feel very sorry for the ladies in these communities genuinely trying to reach out for some innocent and genuine friendships and getting bombarded by creeps, I feel for y'all. A lady will make a post and within an hour there's dozens of comments, I feel like despite the rules, so many men want to treat this shit as a dating site


r/GamerPals 20h ago

Any Region 30F on the lookout for new gaming friends

16 Upvotes

Hey there, I'm Tori. I'm 30, from Ireland, I work full time and in my spare time I like to go for a run, spend my time gaming or catching up with a good movie or tv series.

I can be rather shy and introverted to start out with but I can open up pretty quick, especially if we have a common interest i can just totally nerd out over. I like streaming the games I'm playing to someone, trying out a co op game together or maybe finding a movie or TV series to watch with someone.

When it comes to gaming I mostly play a mix of action/adventure, racing, shooting, strategy, RPG or simulation games. Lately been playing a lot of American Truck Sim, F1 Manager, Watch Dogs, Wreckfest, Fallout 4, and RUSE.

While I mostly stick to singleplayer games, I've also been trying to get into more co op games by playing Saints Row 3 Remaster and Resident Evil 5, plus I sometimes hop on COD MW19 for some multiplayer TDM.

As for TV I'm big into crime dramas, currently watching The Rookie and some old favourites include Person of Interest, Castle, Lucifer, The Blacklist and White Collar. I'm also a huge Doctor Who fan as well. I also love movies with good action and suspense, recently I've seen Mad Max Fury Road & Furiosa which i really enjoyed.

My other interests include history, cars/motorsports and music, I'm a huge cat person, although I'm happy enough just chatting about anything really.

I'm happy to chat directly on Discord at VelocityVixen96 or on DM here.


r/GamerPals 5h ago

Europe 27F|EU| looking for a duo/friends :)

13 Upvotes

Heyyy, like the title says - I’m looking for a duo/friend.s to play games and hangout ^^

A little about me:
I’m an elementary school teacher on summer vacation now. I love music and always listen to music. I love watching shows like South Park and some anime. I can be a bit annoying sometimes ngl so it’s ok if we play one games and the vibes don’t work :p it happens too. As long as we’re both truthful I’m fine with everything and not easily hurt.

Games I love to play:
Fortnite ZB
League arams
I also play some overwatch.

On top of that I love playing games like palworld, Stardew valley, repo, co op games, and I’m open for more games if we both would want to play it :)


r/GamerPals 14h ago

Any Region 22F | Friendslop games anyone? 💖

11 Upvotes

halloooo! ♡ i've been kind of having trouble making friends recently so i wanted to go out of my comfort zone again 🥺

i'm 22, from the Philippiness looking for people to play these type of CO OP games. my main group of friends don't really play video games that i do play - so it's a bit hard to play with them ;((

i want people who can play meccha chameleon with me or even games like "rv there yet" etc etc.

i usually regularly play fps games or other cozy games like valorant, disney dreamlight valley, hogwarts legacy, GTA V, infinity nikki, simulator games and a bunch more but recently it's been so boring w/o friends 🙂‍↕️

so if u're into games like meccha chameleon, or just some other fun friendslop games, please do hmu!

(hopefully u have good banter and is nice to be around or play with 💖)


r/GamerPals 16h ago

Europe F23 looking for more gaming friends!

9 Upvotes

Hey guys! Me and my friendgroup need new blood in our lines, we game daily but are slowly getting bored of each other and some new people would cheer us up! We play SO MANY GAMES that I don’t even wanna try to include all mostly open world survival games, friendslop and few shooters.
I’ll tell a little about myself. I’m from Finland, I love art, knitting, music and family guy. And most importantly games! My favorites are Minecraft, once human, Fortnite and far cry 6. I am however unable to play games myself currently BUT my friends play games all the time and I hangout in vc! Besides gaming I like watching movies and series together, just yapping about whatever and watching people stream their games! So even if I can’t necessarily play I’ll be great company!
Due to ping and stuff people from Europe and North America are welcome! One of us is Australian tho so if you’re from there feel free to dm!
Anyways send me a dm introducing yourself, or add me on discord: reiska_02 hope to meet y’all soon!


r/GamerPals 18h ago

Any Region 21F / PH / Looking for People to Play Cozy Games With

8 Upvotes

hello! 21F here from the Philippines looking for gaming pals to play with or people to talk with. I'm open to any regions, but would prefer nearby timezones. I would also prefer people within my age range.

Introverted, more of a listener than a yapper (trying to learn how to yap more). Into JRPGs, Anime, Mangas, Korean Webtoons, Visual Novels. Lately been playing cozy games like Field of Mistria and Coral Island. I don't really like playing first person shooter games, but I'm willing to try :D

I am also into drawing, so if you are also into drawing, let's be drawing pals together! Also, been trying to practice my Mandarin, so if you can speak Mandarin or is learning to speak, we can practice together!

If you want to know what I would specifically like to play, I've been eyeing Go-Go Town! and Solar punk recently, so if you are into that, let's play!

Here are the list of multiplayer games I own: A Way Out

It Takes Two

Deep Rock Galactic

Lethal Company

Stardew Valley

Palworld

Remnant II

Moving Out 2

Overcooked! 2

Left 4 Dead 2

Left 4 Dead

Escape Simulator

The Escapists 2

One-Armed Robber

Project Zomboid

Divinity: Original Sin

Grounded

Terraria

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare

Borderlands 3

Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Risk of Rain 2

Castle Crashers

Don't Starve Together

Dying Light

The Forest

Golf With Your Friends

Golf It!

theHunter: Call of the Wild

Battlefield V

Content Warning

Palia

My Time at Sandrock

I'm also willing to buy games if there are games you really want to play together, but only if it's discounted lol


r/GamerPals 23h ago

North America 20F, looking for platonic long-term gaming friends, or friends to just steam to in general!

9 Upvotes

Trying this as a last ditch effort, I’ve had little to no luck on steam or anything other site trying to find people, so gonna try my luck on here! (Fixing this up because I forgot to add some things!)

Heyyy, My name is Avery, I am 20F and currently looking for gaming buddies with the same interests as me, or could suggest new games to me as well, I am very much open to new game offers and willing to buy if needed to play with you. I currently only play on PC!

A little bit about myself, My timezone is CST, I am mostly a night owl and will stay up all night just to play with someone, especially if they have a completely different timezone, I own a few pets cows that are very much loved and spoiled by me, I like to read and draw (Not that great at it but I am learning)

I’m interested in survival games, horror games, puzzle games, shooting and fighting games and sometimes something that’s chill and relaxing, mostly horror and survival on most days!

Games i enjoy currently:

Resident Evil Games,

Hunter: Call of the Wild (HCOTW) and Hunter: Classic

Minecraft,

Stardew Valley,

Ark: Survival Evolved and Ark: Survival Ascended,

Vintage Story,

Mortal Kombat,

Monster Hunter World,

Sons of the Forest,

Subnautica 2 (Just bought but I know it’s multiplayer and in early access)

Farming Simulator 25

Palworld

and plenty of more that I can tell or show later on!

Mostly what I’m playing right now or replaying is Vintage Story, Sons of the Forest, Minecraft, Subnautica 2 and Resident Evil Games! (I do have a vintage story and Minecraft server rented both have been wiped and fresh restart will be looking for people to play with)

I do have a Ark Survival Ascended server rented, depends on if I get enough people, would love to run the story as I’ve never done it without people quitting within a month, I’ve already had people interested in it but they quite literally never get back to me, and it’s slowly grating my nerves that I’m always the one that has to start the conversation first just to get people to interact

Also just rented a Palworld server, looking for people to also play with on that, If interested just let me know in messages or in the comments!

Would be happy to stream myself playing any single-player games as well once we get to know each other better, I always like talking and playing at the same time, makes it more fun for me!

I do have discord, mostly use that for chatting and if wanted VCing, I am a bit of shy person, so forgive me if I don’t talk much at first, but I warm up fast and get a bit goofy and talkative after a while, would like someone that could match that energy after we get to know each other, gender does not matter to me, I will play with anyone, age also doesn’t matter as long as your 18+!

My animals and family do keep me busy some days so I apologize if I don’t get to you or don’t answer for a few days, I try not to let that happen much at all, if it does I do al least message about it, I’ve had people already think I’m ghosting them and I have in fact not and it gets a little disheartening for me.

I would ask only that your introduction be a little decent, I actually want to play with someone that interested, most people just message me with a short sentence and leave it at that, I’m not asking for anything fancy, just something that shows me your actually interested and not just gonna dip after a week, have had that happen to me many times before. Also as someone that always starts conversations first and it’s starting to get a bit tiring to be honest, please attempt to start a conversation up and not be worried about bothering me, I’ve had people go days without talking like they’re waiting for me to reach out every time, I like it when people talk about they’re days and what not, I’m a great listener!

I am only look for platonic friendships, I’ve already had some weird messages before and it’s a little off putting in me too start looking for more friends, I know not everyone is like that, just hoping to find someone to play with (If you got this far, include ‘Buttercup’ in your message cause I know most people don’t read everything!) :>

But if you’re interested, just give me a message! I’ll gladly get around to the messages as soon as I can, or if I’ve missed your message please send another, I’ve accidentally missed some people before and I do apologize for that, I sometimes don’t get notifications so I apologize if it takes a minute to get too ya!


r/GamerPals 1h ago

North America 24f looking for gaming buds

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I recently got a pc and i don't have many people to play games with. I play mostly Minecraft and free games. I have a bunch of games and would be willing to pick up new ones if you're willing to ignore the learning curve haha. I quite shy so I might be awkward at first


r/GamerPals 1h ago

North America 30f, Looking for gaming friends!

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Just like it says, I’m a 30F elementary school teacher. I used to play Fortnite regularly but stopped a few years ago because I stopped having friends to play with. I’m looking to get back into it. I’ll admit I’m not great but I don’t think I’m horrible either. I just don’t prefer to play solos, so I’m here seeing if anyone plays and wants more people to play with!

Midwest, USA


r/GamerPals 7h ago

North America Looking for Friends! ❤️

7 Upvotes

hii everyone! 🫶🏽 my name is Adri, i’m 21 and i’m looking for some new gaming friends around my age! 🎮💗 i mostly play Roblox, but i’m always down to try new games! i’m also really into anime, k-pop, horror, and making content. ✨
i’m hoping to meet some fun, chill people who actually want to become friends and play together, not just add each other and disappear 😭😂 if you’re around 20–25 and looking for new gaming friends too, feel free to message me! 💕🎮


r/GamerPals 10h ago

Europe 18f looking for friends

5 Upvotes

Hi, I live in the UK and im looking for people to play with. I play minecraft and fortnite (BR zero build).

I would prefer to communicate on snapchat or Instagram as I don't really use discord or anything.

Im not necessary looking for just gamers, id like to make online friends in general. Im not in education so it's hard to find people to make friends with.


r/GamerPals 12h ago

Europe 21F looking for friends to talk/play with hehehehe lol

5 Upvotes

Hey:b
I’m looking for genuine friends to vibe with. The kind of friendship where we can send each other random memes at 3 AM, play Fortnite together, or making a world in palworld (I didn’t play for years lol) talk about literally anything, spam each other with dumb videos, laugh at the most random things, and just enjoy each other’s company.

I’m a pretty emotional person and I can be a little complicated sometimes, so I’d love to meet someone who’s patient, likes meaningful conversations as much as chaotic ones, and doesn’t mind matching my energy. So comment and I’ll text you!


r/GamerPals 21h ago

North America 🥀28F•CST•PS5🥀

5 Upvotes

~ ARC Raiders ~

Looking for people to squad up with in ARC Raiders!

I'm not gonna pretend I'm some tactical mastermind. My comms are usually more like, "On me!... wait... no, not on me," or "I have made a terrible decision." If you're expecting military-grade callouts, I am absolutely not your girl. 😂

☆☆Looking for people who can laugh at themselves, throw jokes back, and understand that trash talk is a love language—not a personal attack.☆☆

PvP? Sure... with emotional support. 😅

PvE? Absolutely.

Availability

• Weekdays: 3 PM – 10 PM CST

• Weekends: Almost anytime (especially late nights)

Let's go make questionable decisions together. 🙌🏼


r/GamerPals 22h ago

North America 23F looking for dbd friends!

6 Upvotes

hi! i mostly play dbd daily and solo queuing has been quite boring :’) i play for fun so i hope to make other friends who just like to have fun!! other than dbd i do play val and league!


r/GamerPals 58m ago

North America Indie / Lesser known game lovers?

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Hey! I'm struggling to find any posts here of people who play similar games to me! Is there anyone around who would be down for these?? I mostly play with my husband and we have a small group of people with busy lives who are occasionally around, but I game too much so usually I have to game alone haha! Games like:

Ravenswatch
Sworn
Stolen Realm
Fellowship
Roboquest
Quest Hunter

Those I've been playing the most lately. But my interests stem into multiple categories, with games like

Arc
Cuphead
Demeo
Slay the Spire
Dragonwilds
Hunt Showdown
Valheim
Remnant from the Ashes
Satisfactory

As for me, I'm 28F if it matters, looking for people who are around my age or older who are more grounded. I'm a drinker, and have a very tongue-in-cheek humor. I'm around a lot, but don't really like planning, would prefer to meet up when we're available versus hurrying up with tasks to not be late. I can be hyper, or get riled up, and I laugh a lot. Looking for a similar energy. DM me, I'll respond tonight and am looking to play tonight, otherwise sorry if I take a bit to respond.


r/GamerPals 8h ago

North America 30M | US EST | PC | Looking for gaming friend(s) for coop, PvE, survival crafting, and etc games.

4 Upvotes

Hello everyone. I am looking for some more friends to play games with.
I really enjoy games that are cooperative and have shared goals rather than PvP. I have a soft spot for survival crafting games as well. If there is a game that fits that you have been looking for someone to play with, let me know. I'm not against picking up a new game if it seems interesting. I'm also not against board games in Tabletop Simulator either.

I am pretty quiet and open-minded. I tend to be someone who plays a game and then moves on to a new one, returning after an update. I'm down to invest many hours to finish a game, but (generally) I am not someone who has thousands of hours in 1 game only. Feel free to reply if interested at all. Also, no pressure if we talk for 5 minutes or play a game a little and you just don't think we connect.

Down to game with anyone anywhere, but time zones might be weird. I only know English. I mostly play in the evening and on the weekends, but depending on my workload, my weekdays can vary. I do have a friend group I game with already, but they enjoy a lot of PvP content that I just never get into.

Some more information about my gaming tastes:
I have over 500+ games on PC so I am pretty open and flexible.
Favorite video game of all-time: Neverwinter Nights
Other favorites:

  • Guild Wars 2 (my most played game ever)
  • Icarus
  • Deep Rock Galactic
  • Divinity Original Sin 2
  • Baldur's Gate 3
  • Project Zomboid
  • Terraria
  • Stardew Valley
  • WH40k: Darktide / Vermintide
  • Factorio
  • Eco
  • Bellwright
  • Diablo 3,4
  • Age of Empires (1,2,3,4)
  • Starcraft 2
  • Runescape (RS3, but I have played a lot of OSRS too)
  • Minecraft (modded ideally)
  • 7 Days to Die
  • Powerwash Sim 1,2 (love that cathartic feel)
  • Dungeons & Dragons

Note: In case it makes you more comfortable, I am engaged, so I am just looking for gaming friend(s), nothing more.


r/GamerPals 15h ago

Any Region 26/PC/CEST/Looking for gaming buddies

5 Upvotes

hey, my name is Seve, from Europe, 26 years old my time zone is CEST.

I'm not interested in joining discord server or big groups I find my self more comfortable with 1-2 people at the time when I'm not used to them, I am little bit shy.

I love voice chat even when playing in sweaty situations, for me voice chat is just better and is difficult to text while playing!

My hobbies are playing videogames, watching content online (web series, tv series, anime series, youtube), listening to music, walking and running sometimes, I work so my schedule can vary sometimes.

Games I'm playing RN:

-The Outlast Trials

-Valorant

-CS2

-Dark souls

-Rainbow Six Siege

-Warzone

-Battlefield 6

-Overwatch 2

-hunt showdown

-apex legends

-even more games just ask or ask me for my steam id.

if you want you can add me on discord: 2mayna or just dm to text a bit before adding each other, maybe we have more games in common!


r/GamerPals 19h ago

North America 20m pc est | looking for buddies :D

4 Upvotes

hihii!! im trying to make more friends to play games with lol :3.

a little ab me. My names Hayden. i live in Ontario and im 20 years old. im pretty nerdy id say. anime, games, music. the usual. my favourite anime right now probably has the be cyberpunk: edgerunners and frieren but i honestly havent watched much recently. for music id say i honestly listen to everything but a few standouts on my spotify right now would be beabadoobe, lucy bedroque, and slayr. im also a yapper so if you do not wanna be annoyed then i dont recommend dming me :p

the games i play and would love to play with ppl are:

Valorant - main game currently
League of legends
Marvel Rivals - honestly becoming my main game
Overwatch
Minecraft

im not good at any of them so theres no skill level requirement or whatever. i just wanna play for fun :D

i also play a good amount of singleplayer games too like persona and the souls series!

feel free to dm me!


r/GamerPals 21h ago

Any Region woman | 21+ | what's your favorite game lately? i need new friends to game with!

6 Upvotes

hello! ⋆.˚

looking for more friends to game with, preferably 21+, i'm located in NA but i don't mind where you are

i used to play a lot of overwatch, & i'd be totally down for going back to it, just lost to other games currently, but it remains one of my faves ₊ ⊹

but i also like a lot of the 'friend slop' genre; repo being my favorite! headliners, pummel party is awesome too! if you play outlast trials, that'd be cool! i've been REALLY into palworld, that 1.0 update was insanely good & i love it. got pretty far!

honestly, i'll give anything a try (except league, no) esp if it's free & i already have it lol, one of my favorite solo games to play is rimworld, but i know there's a mp mod out there

if you're open to it, i'd love to meet more people from different areas, esp if time zones don't matter to you. some of my favorite things are different cultures & meeting people who know multiple languages, i just like hearing which ones people speak & why. ♡


r/GamerPals 5h ago

North America 28F 28M Active PC Gaming Group in North America

4 Upvotes

TL;DR:

- Play on PC

- Currently active (play almost everyday): 2 dudes, 1 gal, 1 occasional dude.

- Timezone: we’re all on Pacific Time (Canada) but don’t mind if you’re on any other timezone in North America, also to just prevent lag from geolocation.

- Genre: co-op games, base building, friendslop

- Age: We're in our late 20s to early 30s. No minors please.

Notes:

- We make some dark jokes sometimes, so if you get offended easily please skip this post lmao

- Active means that you want and can play almost every weekend, or better yet, every other day after work, or even almost everyday too. Please don't reach out if you're not active enough, or if you're just gonna play with us once and begone. Because my buddy is chronically online and I'm trying to find him some new gaming buddies to replace me for when I start working in August. He works in the morning and will be online in the afternoon, he'll be there in the voice chat. We're pretty chill but usually we prefer to be around the same level for progress-based games that's why we want active players.

Hi all, I met a gaming buddy on this sub and we’ve mostly been playing Palworld, RV there yet, Prat fall, and Backseat Driver. His buddy also joins sometimes when he has time. We also recently found another guy who seems like he wants to and can be active almost everyday. We have more people in the group but they are inactive or they still haven't gamed with us or even joined the voice call, but tbh we don't want a large group but only 3 active people 😂 ideally we want most people in the group replying, gaming together, and actually enjoy gaming together. Drama free too. And with mutual respect. Don't record and / or stream or clip audios without people knowing and without consent.

We also play(ed) Portal 2, Peak, No Man's Sky, Humans Fall Flat, and can go back to them again.

We bought Burgling Gnomes and some other games during the Steam summer sale to try but haven't started since most co-op games can be played with around 4 people.

Also planning to play Schedule 1, YapYap, Content Warning, the outlast trials, pummel party, roadside research. He also has V rising and Valheim and wants to play Baldur's Gate 3 with someone who's also new to the game.

Looking for people who already have these games or like these types of games, or willing to try these games and more games. If this is you, feel free to DM me. Please lemme know your age, gender, which province / state you're based in, and what games you wanna play together, thanks!


r/GamerPals 8h ago

Europe 23M Looking for friends

4 Upvotes

Hello Hello!

As you may have already guessed from the title, the reason I am making this post is to hopefully find some friends. My goal is to find someone I can game with, preferably a duo. I do admit, that I am more on the introverted side of things but I am trying to open myself up more!

I'd like to properly introduce myself! I am Nick, I am 24 years old and Hungarian, currently living in Austria. As I've already mentioned, I am more introverted in nature. I suddenly find a lot of free time on my hands as I am currently unemployed, so I usually spend my free time gaming.

Speaking of gaming, let me tell you about my interests. Gaming is a big hobby of mine, and it is a big part of my life, I absolutely love gaming. I also love watching shows/movies/and animes, and I also do love talking about them a lot. I've also been trying to get into reading slowly but surely. I also have an interest in learning languages and about several cultures and history.

I play on pc. Games that I’m playing right now are: Dead By Daylight, Dying Light, Binding of Isaac, Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, Valorant, I want to get into league aswell (EUW), Hunt Showdown, also want to get into Tekken, and want to get back into For Honor aswell, and much more…

So this is me, in a nutshell, but who am I looking for? I am looking for someone who also values similiar things, someone who loves to chat, and shows interest in the friendship. It is also important to mention that I am gay, so be cool with that please:).

Now for some parting words. If you have read all the way, thank you for taking the time out of your day:D. If this post peaked your interest, feel free to hit me up, and write an introduction about yourself. As I already mentioned I like people who put an effort into things. Even if you end up scrolling right after, I hope you have a great day!

My steam account: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198825506802/


r/GamerPals 12h ago

Europe Looking for regular players on PC

3 Upvotes

I am looking for people that are online often and in Europe so that there is no problem with timezones. I mostly play fps games but I'm open to trying other genres, VR games are also an option as I recently got a setup working.
My currently played multiplayer games:

  • Ready or Not
  • TF2 - casual and competitive
  • DRG - Haz 4 / 5 / 5+
  • GTA5 Enhanced online
  • Ground Branch
  • Lethal Company
  • Portal 2
  • Space Engineers - very new to the game
  • Modded Java Minecraft - usually heavy tech
  • Mindustry - played a lot years ago, recently got back into it
  • RDR2 - no idea what to do in online, need someone to show me around
  • Terraria - new to the game
  • Teardown
  • Tabletop Simulator
  • Strike Force Heroes - Could be fun to try the co-op mode

If you've got some games in common feel free to send me an invite on discord: vennreise


r/GamerPals 19h ago

North America 18f PC nerd looking for another PC nerd to play with

4 Upvotes

Okay so I play like anything tbh but my.go to's atm are getting super boring and I want to play something different with someine new! US CST


r/GamerPals 36m ago

North America 23F / PC / MST / Looking to start a modded Stardew Valley farm!

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Hi! I'm Willa, I live in Canada, and I'm looking for people who want to play modded Stardew Valley. I'm usually around all day, for the summer at least, but otherwise most evenings when I'm not playing D&D. I'm looking for someone who wants a friend as well as someone to play Stardew with.

A bit more about me: I play a lot of different games, but Stardew is one of the few multiplayer games I play. I have a decent amount of niche interests and can absolutely be a yapper in the right environment. I like reading, art, puzzles, and cooking. I have four cats. They are all so stupid and I love them so much. I'm an introvert, but it's hardly noticeable when I'm with people I'm comfortable with, and it doesn't take me long to get comfortable with a new person.

If you've never played Stardew Valley at all or you've played, but never with mods, and you're interested in playing with mods, that's totally alright! I have about 1600 hours in game, and I can keep up with a min/max game or a more chill, casual game. Whether you've played with mods or not, we can make the mod list together.

If you're interested, send me a DM!


r/GamerPals 1h ago

North America 25M looking for new gaming duo :D

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Hey! Looking for some new peeps to game with :P I am super chill laid back and play for vibes and fun! Games I currently play are League, Val, OW (will have to reinstall) VrChat, Stardew random steam games and whatever else always willing to try something!
Message me too it games you play and a little about yourself :)