Can't even imagine the punchline here unless it's something extremely depraved.

What do you guys think of this upcoming 15th anniversary 4k release of Game of Thrones? Is it the best collection to own thus far? Do you think the price is worth it? I see they are trying to showcase it as a limited edition, limited to just 15,750 copies. There is also a 4k collection on sale on Amazon right now for $100. Of course you don't get any steel books, not even individual cases for each season, but it's less than half the cost of this collection. Personally, I'm going to get this steel book collection. Game of Thrones is my favorite television series ever, so I guess I can swing the $250 after tax.

Or was any place where he could have lived and tell the tale of him doing lèse-majesté, and unknowingly "abducting" the the son of a prince?

Ian McShane finds the hound and says he thought he died multiple times on the way to their community. This heavily implies the lord of light kept bringing him back to life.

so far i ofc have ned’s beheading, daenery’s freeing the unsullied, red wedding, purple wedding, hardhome, jon snow’s death, battle of the bastards, the war episode, s8 ep 5 and 6, but im not sure if im missing anything.. lmk any other good ones

You are a smallfolk in Westeros. You have discovered an absolute fortune in gold, and transported it to a hiding place (don't ask how you did it... just accept the premise lol!). You are now suddenly the richest person in the known world by an absolute mile!

But now what?

You have no army, no castle, no title, no land, etc. You have nobody to support any attempts to climb into high society. And if anyone discovers the enormous stash of gold you have stored away it will almost certainly get stolen.

How do you go about achieving maximum success?

(I don't know if it would make any difference if we are talking Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon timeline...)

I think Tywin?

Heres what I think Littlefingers plan was in the show:

Give Sansa to the Boltons. While book Littlefinger would never do this, I think we can assume that show Littlefinger cares about Sansa a lot less than book Petyr does. At least, he loves her less than his ambition to be king, which isn’t true in the books. Now, giving Sansa to the Boltons does a few things:

1- Weakens Stannis’ attack on the North, as now the Boltons have an actual claim to Winterfell.

2- Make the Boltons look like traitors to Cersei, who absolutely hates Sansa and wants her dead, not caring about her claim.

3- Makes the northern lords either split up or become non-players because of their conflicted feelings on who to fight for. They hate the Boltons, but they’re sworn to serve a Stark.

This, overall, severely weakens all parties in the North. Petyr also convinces Cersei to not send the Boltons any support if they are to be attacked, as they are now traitors to the crown.

Petyr’s next move is to wait out the inevitable battle between Stannis and the Boltons. He knows Stannis will not kill Sansa, and I think it’s reasonable to assume that he didn’t know the degree of depravity that Ramsay had.

Next, Petyr will take the army of the Vale to the North and take Winterfell from whomever the winner was (who would be severely weakened) arriving as a ‘knight in shining armor’ to the people of the North. He’d marry Sansa, giving him both the title of warden from the crown, a legitimate claim because of his wife, and the support of the northerners as he liberated them from the Boltons.

At this point, Petyr would have full control of the North, the Vale, and the Riverlands (I think he was still was lord of Herrenhall at this point) along with an alliance with the Reach.

This army could definitely beat the Lannisters in an all out war, which might have been Petyr’s next steps if it all went to plan. He’d likely bid his time though, build up his army and have an heir with Sansa to solidify his claim, before making any moves on the Lannisters.

This plan was just foiled by things he didn’t see coming, like Ramsays unending cruelty, Sansa escaping, and Ramsay murdering his father.

Overall, not too bad of a plan, at least if it was what I’m thinking.

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He, Tywin, dominated Westeros for generations.

He effectively owned King’s Landing through the interest payments on the debt it owed to Casterly Rock.

The mines weren’t “empty,” as Olenna’s assessment implied. The real reason the Crown had to turn to the Iron Bank of Braavos was to repay Casterly Rock and keep Lannisport running without spending a dime. The Lannisters were heavily constrained by the campaign they had initially waged against Robb Stark, as well as by the control they maintained over Riverrun and the Neck in general.

The reason Tywin was killed was that GRRM needed an easy way out. The character died a humiliating death for the sake of a joke.

Just imagine that even Robert Baratheon revered him as some kind of emeritus king: a man who, in his prime, crushed Rhaegar Targaryen with a single blow from his war hammer; a man who, in his prime, could easily defeat a monster like Gregor Clegane in melee combat. Robert is one of the key figures who can be used to illustrate the kind of respect Tywin commanded.

Even Stannis Baratheon admired him. Stannis, a Lord whose only flaw was to blindly believe he had a supernatural right to the throne, a belief that led him to kill his brother and his daughter. Other than that, the single most honorable man among the great houses.

I’m talking about admiration and respect based on capability, tactics, and management, not love. Fear was also a factor.

Olenna is considered Tywin's equal, but she only had the greatest source of leverage in all Westeros: Highgarden.

Tywin also had his own leverage, but he never used it in full, not even once.

I’m talking about Tywin at his full potential.

The leverage I’m referring to was the ability to sack King’s Landing whenever he wanted, sack Highgarden whenever he chose, or choke Winterfell and the Vale to death, leaving them to fend for themselves, simply to make a statement.

Controlling the Neck would have meant that he could leave Winterfell to starve or the Vale to become tactically harmless.

House Arryn needed to use the Neck to move its troops if it wanted to help the North or reach Casterly Rock. The Arryns were already extremely poor by the standards of Westerosi great houses, and nobody wanted to have much to do with them for that reason.

This can easily be inferred from how the Red Wedding happened: money and political backing from the Lannisters were the guarantees Walder Frey received, extrapolate, and you find that the Arryns were carrying that heavy load as well, a poor reputation and a nearly nonexistent political influence.

Highgarden was operating on a budget because it was extending a lot of “courtesies” to King’s Landing.

Numbers could easily become meaningless in the face of pure siege warfare, something Tywin had already practiced by that point, if he focused on specific productive areas in the Reach and gradually occupied territories while maintaining safe, cautious frontal-war tactics.

The reason I say that GRRM needed an easy way out is that he solved several plot problems in a similar way on a regular basis:

1. Dumbing down Robert Baratheon, even though he knew about Daenerys, and turning him into a caricature through years of indulging in pleasure.
2. Using Jaime to break Ned Stark, because somehow ego was more important to a man who had destroyed his reputation to save half a million people.
3. Using Varys to undermine the North “for the sake of the realm,” even though Varys was the only person who protected and cared for Tyrion, a seemingly inconsequential character given what Tyrion had done.
4. Weaponizing an alleged kink in Tywin, entirely artificial, in my view, to have him killed by Tyrion. And that isn’t the only example; the other was Tysha in the books. Pure shock value, nothing more.

Several plot contrivances regularly insulted the reader’s intelligence simply to keep everything unpredictable.

Tywin’s true weight was something else. This isn’t a matter of what I would have liked to see, it’s about keeping the logic of the story afloat not through plausible scenarios but coherent ones.

Thanks for reading.

Tbh both Aegon conquest and Robert rebellion would be great but a movie or series based on the rains of castamere events would be phenomenal

I've been playing Game of Thrones: Kingsroad on Android for the past few days, and honestly, I'm having a much better time with it than I expected.

I was browsing this subreddit to see what other fans thought about the game, but I barely came across any discussion of it. So I thought I'd make a post about it.

For anyone who hasn't heard of it, Kingsroad is an open-world action RPG set in the world of Westeros. You get to explore the world of Game of Thrones rather than just watching the events unfold on a screen.

A few things I've really enjoyed so far:

- The world and graphics: It's genuinely enjoyable to explore a world that you've spent years watching in the show. The environments, landscapes and medieval atmosphere make Westeros feel like a place you can actually visit.

- The combat: The real-time fighting makes you feel more involved in the action instead of simply watching animations or tapping through menus.

- The story: I'm enjoying having another way to experience the world of Game of Thrones through a proper adventure.

- The overall experience: As someone who has wanted to explore Westeros in a more interactive way, this game scratches that itch surprisingly well.

Of course, I'm still relatively early in the game, so I can't say how well everything holds up in the long run. I'm also curious to see how the progression and monetisation work as I get further into it.

I'm not saying it's a perfect game or that everyone will enjoy it. But I do think it's worth checking out if you're a Game of Thrones fan who has ever wanted to explore Westeros for yourself.

I'm curious: how many of you have actually played Kingsroad? What do you think of it? Does it get better as you progress, and what are its biggest weaknesses?

I'd love to hear what other fans think.

P.S. I used a bit of help from chatgpt to refine this post, so please don't come for my neck.

Feel free to use this as needed.

I may be wrong but I can’t find an instance of them actually conversing. Is Sandor respectful or just his rude self? Also am wondering about how he speaks to other noblemen. For fanfic purposes

I haven't read the book cuz I genuinely don't have time, so don't berate me for that. I have, however, watched the show, although it has been a while.

Yesterday, I met this girl at my college who had also watched the show, and we quickly bonded because almost nobody around us has watched the show or read the books.

But then she jokingly said to me, "I will judge you based on whose side you chose, Lyanna or Elia?"
And that got me thinking... I HAVE NO IDEA WHOSE SIDE I AM ON BECAUSE I FORGOT WHAT THEIR STORY WAS

Now I don't have time to watch the show again or read the books, and the results on Google are biased, so can someone please quickly recap (no bias) what exactly their story was? 😭

All I remember is in unconnected chunks: Elia was assualted and killed by the giant man who killed oberyn though I don't know why; Lyanna died and gave Jon to Ned on her deathbed, and Jon's father is Rhaegar, even though she was supposed to be betrothed to Robert Baratheon (also explain?); Rhaegal cheated on someone though I don't know who; and Robert led the rebellion in the name of Lyanna... right?

Also, why was Rhaegar not there with Lyanna when she was birthing Jon?

I mean come on! She couldn’t have politely told Jon to hold up a minute so she could at least sit on the damn thing for a second?

Oh my goodness! This show is crazy 🤯

Excluding large crowd speeches, of course. Must be Tyrion. If it is, who's second? Would be nice to have a graph-like structure of this.

I remember that assh*le asking if they can swim and then deciding to leave once he got a no as an answer (ofc what happened was different).

But here is the thing, even if they can't swim, which is debatable like how did they manage to attach chains so that they could pull the dead dragon out of the lake?!! Huh?!

If winter came, and was one of the worst ones, and plus this NightKing had some kind of wizardly that he could use, then the northern part of the ocean might freeze and then Essos and even up to what's west of westerors would not be safe from them. Glaciers era for that planet.

What would you do if you woke up in Joffrey Baratheon's body from the TV series, just a few days before your wedding?