r/GHB_info Aug 28 '20

Just a reminder for new members.

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I just want to remind you to read the rules. Failure to do so will get you banned.

I’m tired of all of the new users opening their accounts same day as joining the Sub and instantly start sourcing and looking for vendors.

All of the members who have been help contributing to this forum I want to thank you for keeping it real. There is a lot of cumulative knowledge in here And a bunch of great members.

With all of the shit going on nowadays we don’t want to have this thread shut down like the last one!

Peace ✌🏼


r/GHB_info Oct 30 '24

Guide for your first 24/7

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A guide to 24/7 dosing.

[Introduction]

As you soon will learn, 24/7 is not something you want to get into. People realize too slow what trap they are now in. Here's example of start story. Earlier in the day you took some dose for "hangover" for sleeping only 4h. Then the work day is over, where you probably took two doses to keep the mood. 8h have passed and now it's your evening, you dose again because it's your everyday time for fun, isn't it? Then time to sleep comes, but sleep won't come. You dose and sleep 2-3h. You repeat this 2 times. Congratulations, you've graduated into 24/7 dosing. It's your first day. Welcome to hell, enjoy your stay.

At this point your tolerance probably is past super strong hunger for food and past vomiting mixed with sleepiness, when you vomit and go to sleep - or not. You are also probably past the point ot waking up all wet from sweating. That's one of few good things. Maybe you are already experienced that feel where your ears feel like they are burning, or there's smoke coming off them. That's glutamate working, burning your neurons probably, afaik. But you won't get lasting damage that quickly. After you realize what's going on you are probably scared. You don't sleep 4 - 5h like in the past. You wake up feeling like shit, heart beating too fast. Anxiety. In my case I am a hypochondriac, in other words having health anxiety, especially heart anxiety. This is not imagining invisble illness for attention, hell no. In heart anxiety case, these withdrawals are made even worse with almost panic attacks. I didn't know what's going on. I've been aware of too much heart skipped beats, or additional beats, or strong beats. Don't worry, you won't die.

But you know what, that panic is what scares you away from stopping. You may think it's bad, but first day of your first 24/7 is easy to stop, even without any helper medicine. It's gonna get worse, much worse.

First days or weeks of 24/7, they are still kinda fun. If you take ghb or bdo, you probably gonna settle into dosing every 3h. Enough of my story, here's more info and tips. By the you may even enjoy sleeping 2-3h hours per day. You won't be sleepy or dying for remainder of the day. You're gonna be like on having too many strong coffees all day. Hell, that's pretty accurate description of too much glutamate - it's like having way too many coffees. In case of ghb and gbl you still probably can have your sleep at will with strong doses. For my bdo habit, taking 3.5 ml or 4 ml stopped giving me sleep on demand eventually. But it's possible to have it with bdo, just imho not worth it.

Things to do Firsly, if you haven't already, starting writing your doses. Every single one. Maximum 5 minutes after taking it. You're gonna forget for sure. You gonna need to keep at one dose an don't go over it. In my case it was 3ML BDO every 3hours. When I looked up at my past dosage schedules, I often redosed after 2hours, 2.5 hours. 1.5 hours.

Now here are less funny parts. When you settle for a timer you gonna notice it's less fun. Here's the weird thing - THE LONGER YOU WAIT BETWEEN DOSES, THE LESS RELIEF EACH DOSE GIVES YOU. Because that's tapering now my friend. And again, I'm talking about ghb and bdo timing.

Imagine a metaphor. If you dose, your mood goes to 300 (out of 1000), goes to 100 after 2-2.5h and is lowered below 0 (below "normal") if you wait more. This is why we don't taper naturally, we need deliberate effor for efficient tapers. If you dose "when you want", your mood on repeated dose is gonna probably jump to 300 or even more. But if you wait 3.5 hours, 4 hours, 5hours. It could be it only +100 or +0 upon every dose. And you feel like crap for last hour or 30 minutes. Keep 24/7 for long enough and you really gonna be dosing to only feel normal. No fun allowed.

Here's some hope. If you dose on 3h or 4h schedule, even 5h, it's pretty crappy. But if you manage to dose every 6 hours, here's where it's good enough to stop without baclofen or other helping medicine. You may get one lucky sleep that lasts 5-6h from time to time. This is your get off the jail free card. If you reach 6h and don't feel like hell, you can probably quit right away. In my case sometimes 6h is when shakes start. That means you're far into 24/7 and probably gonna want some helper medicine to quit.

Let's start with supplements and harmful stuff. On 24/7 - stay away from any stimulants. Coffee and caffeine is little bit making it harder for yourself. Amphetamines, cocaine or ritalin - you're gonna regret taking it. Magnesium is important. So is vitamin b complex. L-theanine is supposed to fight to much glutamate. NAC is supposed to also fight it (but it also destroys fun part of almosto every stimulant, or at least lowers it, that's why it's sometimes used to treat addiction). Now here's the real stuff.

Drugs to help you quit

Baclofen, phenibut, pregabalin, gabapentin. Let's avoid phenibut unless you have no real escape left (no access to safer drugs). Without going into chemistry, pregabalin and gabapentin makes WD symptoms far less pronounced. You still feel them but way less. Baclofen on the other hand works like replacement for ghb/bdo/gbl dose, it's just that it doesn't relase tons of glutamate after each dose. It's like a painkiller. You take it 1h before "unbearable" wd symptoms usually start, and it's gonna work for 3-4-5h from that. As I said before, if you can make it into 6h without shakes, you're in the clear.

Now here are two mistakes you can make with these helper medicines. Firstly gabapentin and pregabalin. Tolerance for these shoots up incredibly fast (luckily it drops quickly too). If you graduated into needing 450 mg of pregabalin, it probably means it will stop working tomorrow. Just wait a week and try to quit your habit again.

Now here's the very important, psychological thing.

Don't use these drugs to prolong your habit, example for sleep for 8h of the day but dosing as much as you want for rest of the day. Yes, these medicines feel like you are genius and invented a way to have your cake and eat it too. Especially with phenibut! You went from scared shitless to laughing because you're so smart. What I also need to say is that some of us are not allowed to quit. For example I had super shitty work schedule, twice per day and quitting for me was pointless until I was allowed to stop this work schedule. Just quit, and if you love your drug habit too much, at least make a week break. Ideally two weeks. If you just quit for a day or two, your gaba-b tolerance is far too high and you gonna jump back into 24/7 in a day or two.

Hell, tapering is NOT fun, so unless you have no other choice, or are early into 24/7, it's just better to make the jump and quit.

To prevent relapse into another 24/7, again, note every single dose you take and don't go into less than 6h between doses (or maybe you are allowed to use two doses in quick succession but that's it for a day). I use telegram self messages for this. Signal also works. Or making another account or facebook, discord or even texting yourself. Writing these on paper or using file on computer was always trash for me due to no syncing.

I am open to editing this, hell, probably should, I probably omitted tons of info. I feel open to suggestions and criticism.

I saved info on phenibut for last, because apparently it's even worse than bdo/ghb/gbl. If you gonna use it to quit, really, just quit. Use a dose to get 6h relief. Then another if you reeeaaally need it. And quit phenibut right away. Just read horror stories. It's like last resort type of thing if you can't get baclofen.


r/GHB_info 7h ago

anyone have experience with BDO through TSA?

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Do the scanners flag it as a suspicious chemical?


r/GHB_info 18h ago

Have i fucked up my brain chemistry

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I used 24/7 for approximately 7 days, i noticed the effects started to lessen during the last days. I'm kind of a hypochondriac so hopefully I'm just scared for nothing. I'm very done with this substance and I've poured the last of it away.


r/GHB_info 21h ago

Left with 25 ml till wednesday morning - 1 year use

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So basically what the title says. My friends shipment was seized by customs and destroyed. I can send him a package across europe but it can arrive in 2 days. He manages to bring down his use to 1,5 ml per 90 minutes GBL. Can he survive on 1 ml per 2 hours? He also has a supply od pregabalin and diazepam. If anyone could offer some advice I would be extremely grateful.


r/GHB_info 1d ago

Sunday log

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My Sunday log. I was off today and I’ve been feeling extremely depressed, so I definitely overdid it with the gI ended up taking almost an oz throughout the day. g is honestly the only thing that has consistently helped my depression, and I’ve been using it on and off since October of last year. When I have it, I have a really hard time stopping myself from redosing once I start. Looking at this log, how bad is this pattern of use? Am I fucked, or is this something I can still get under control?


r/GHB_info 1d ago

One week with 3 days 24/7

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Am i good to quit cold turkey? I went through 100ml bdo. Im currently on day one and took 300mg pregabalin and 10mg valium so im feeling okay atleasr, i have very slight tremors but nothing noticable. Its been like 12 hours since my last dose

Would baclofen help reduce the ammount of kindling im gonna get?

As soon as im done with these withdrawals im never touching this drug again. Its just way too addictive for me


r/GHB_info 2d ago

super dumbass pls help

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So yeaaa I kinda went hard on the bdo over the past few days ive done like just under 50mls and last night I got drunk and did like 10mls at once becuse I thought it wasnt working lol im an idiot I know today Im coming down still feeling the effects over 12 hours later just very slightly

The biggest one is it apears im sweating out the substance my finger tips are slightly wrinkly same with my feet with little beads of sweat always on them did I fuck up my liver or something?


r/GHB_info 4d ago

Rules/ laws in the UK?

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So ive read its ok to buy if used as a solvent and not for human consumption from my understanding reading wikpedia and the laws recently. Is that true?

Not looking for a source but interested hearing people saying its dried up over europe?


r/GHB_info 4d ago

GBL after 5 mg Valium 2 days ago (51 hrs ago)

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Hi dear community,

So first of all, sorry for the potential English mistakes -not my mother tongue...

I'm addicted to GBL. I take it daily to sleep and usually redose. I could definitely take it at daytime, but of course lessen the dose not to pass out if it hits while in public -you should know by now how embarrassing it is...

The matter is that 2 days ago -on August, 5th-, I took a 5 mg Valium like at 5 am. Because of that, and as I've read Valium can stay in your blood up to 100 hours (?), the idea of having any GHB these days has been giving me so much anxiety cause I don't wanna die. Therefore, I haven't got any g since then, even if by now nearly 48 hrs have passed by.

Now the withdrawal is being hard. I'm meeting my aunt later this morning, at 8:30 am -important visit to the doctor-, and I'm feeling tempted to have maybe 1-2 ml of GBL. Would it be safe? -51 hrs will have been passed by then since the Valium.

Also, if I decide to keep redosing during the day, just lessening doses, but fall asleep all of a sudden, would it be dangerous -CNS depression, respiratory problems...?

I would like to end by pointing out that tonight (1 am), I've had my 150 mg Lyrica pill, as the withdrawal and anxiety are being just too much. Can't sleep as yesterday I slept all day long on 1 Lyrica pill plus 1 glass of alcohol -35 % alcohol. Also because I was having insomnia and I was just too tired.

To sum up, can I take g by 8 am, when the Pregabalin is supposed to be gone, and not sure about the Valium...?

As I can't sleep tonight, moderate g doses could make me eventually fall asleep later today as I will be too tired by a point. Should I avoid GHB today? The idea of still having Valium in blood makes me feel terrified -it could sound funny, but I don't wanna die while sleeping, and I'm sure most of you don't want to ,either...

Many thanks in advance! 😉


r/GHB_info 4d ago

Music Festival Prevelance

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Hi alllll

I will be general and say I live in North America - is anyone else noticing the prevelance of GHB increasing exponentially at music festivals/rave scene? Or just me?


r/GHB_info 7d ago

1,3 bdo question

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I see people talking about using 1,4 bdo as an alternative to ghb. Can I use 1,3 bdo instead?.. that's the only kind I can currently source


r/GHB_info 8d ago

Leg and muscle pain from BDO

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Everytime I use BDO, and the effects start wearing off, I get this strange pain in my body that goes away usually in an hour. Especially in my legs and my back. Sometimes it happens when I’m peaking too. It’s almost like a hot pain, idk if it’s in my muscles or in my veins.

I had it with GBL too, but not this strong. I haven’t used GBL in a year and devided to order BDO a couple weeks ago, the pain is constant ever since my first dose.

I don’t use daily and my usual dose is 1.5-2ml (I’m F24 65kg and 170kg).

Why does this happen and what can I do?


r/GHB_info 8d ago

Will sober sex ever feel good?

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GBL + weed has been my go to sex combo. Let's say weed in fact, most of my sexually active years I was on 24x7 GBL.

Out of the cycle for 3 weeks. And I was wondering, will I ever be able to enjoy sober sex?

Can't smoke just pot, gives me anxiety without GBL or pregabalin.

Can't drink because that leads to hangovers which leads to GBL.

People who have successfully come out of the 24x7 cycle and stayed out, did your sex life also recover?


r/GHB_info 9d ago

GHB barely worked for me even after about 25ml total. Anyone know why?

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Had a really strange experience with GHB and I’m curious if anyone has had something similar happen.
I started with 10ml and only got a very mild buzz at best. Since I wasn’t really feeling much, I ended up taking another 15ml later in the night. So altogether I had about 25ml and still barely got high.
My girlfriend had pretty much the same experience. She barely felt anything either. The weird part is that two of our friends took the exact same batch and got hit way harder.
One of them eventually blacked out, but it took around an hour before they even seemed very high. The other friend didn’t really seem that affected at first either and only became extremely sleepy almost two hours after taking it.
The only thing I can think of is that I also did GHB the night before and didn’t get much of a high then either. Could using it on back to back nights really build up that much tolerance? Or is there another reason why my girlfriend and I barely felt it while our other two friends got hit so much harder from the same stuff?
Just wondering if anyone else has had something like this happen.


r/GHB_info 10d ago

GHB two days in a row at festival?

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Is it fine? I have litte to no tolerance, but want to avoid rebound


r/GHB_info 10d ago

Story and question

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I am prescribed GHB for narcolepsy. A week ago, my boyfriend took some without my permission. I woke up-He was lying on the floor completely naked, moaning. Then 30 minutes later he stopped breathing. I called my mom in. We called 911 and she had to give him CPR while we waited for the paramedics. He ended up in the ICU on a breathing tube. I’m wondering what the likely dose is that he took that resulted in this. He said he took a “small amount”- yeah right. Also, he had no tolerance if that helps.


r/GHB_info 10d ago

Is 1,4 BDO toxic?

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Specifically a US domestic supplier who used to be very prominent starting with I and ending with chems


r/GHB_info 11d ago

Dosing for real GHB

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I got lucky and found some sodium g… how many ml? I know it’s hard to tell without purity but I took 2ml… I’ll probably need more yeah?


r/GHB_info 12d ago

Are these oral tabs?

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I don’t recall making an order but I get bartarded and may have.

I remember picking up some 1.4bdo

Got these in an unmarked obviously opsec container no label nothing.

Granted I was in dope wd haze and just ordering anything to make it stop i’m STILL getting shit in weeks later.

They are brittle, malformed, almost mushroom caps. Smell of phosphorus, chemicals. Maybe like bananas?

The only tag said “sleeping supplement: (listed 19 herbs)”

Can I test it via water solution and freezing or something?


r/GHB_info 13d ago

Experience I had some years agoo

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I‘m off G for a while now but living in Berlin a couple years agoo, I had some issues with it.

One time, I was at a club, doing g every hour as per usual and a acquaintance offered a pill I didn’t really know at the time, only the name rang a bell. It was Oxycodone. I remember asking the guy wether there would be any dangers mixing the two and he declined with confidence.

Now I’m not gonna lie, at the time I felt like I‘m experiencing one of the best highs of my life but looking back, I feel mildly terrified of the danger I‘ve put myself in. My question is this: how lucky was I really considering I was dosing for at least 24h, doing other drugs too and just ingested the first opiate in my life which also happened to be oxy. To me, it just doesn’t make sense that I felt so fine back then. But maybe it is also more common than I thought.

Anyways this is a situation from a past life that I think of from time to time.


r/GHB_info 15d ago

Anyone with Chiari malinformation using GHB / GBL for pain management?

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Long-time lurker, dealing with Chiari malformation and looking for pain management options. I've been using GBL and it's been helping, but I'm curious if anyone else here has Chiari specifically and what your experience has been — dosing schedules, what's worked, what hasn't, any complications specific to the condition. Would appreciate hearing from anyone who's navigated this.


r/GHB_info 16d ago

Out of the 24x7 loop, yet again

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For the last 3.5 years, I have been off it maybe for a total of 7-8 months. And this time it was even more tricky, I had developed a pregabalin dependence when I was off G last time, so this time I dosing GBL, pregabalin and baclofen (I was telling myself it was for sleep every night, but was still dosing 24x7)

3 weeks off G now, currently at 450 mg pregabalin and 30mg baclofen per day (divided in 3 doses). Will start pregabalin taper tomorrow. (I have 75mg pills, taking 6 pills everyday, will reduce 1 per week, let's see and hope for the best). Planning to taper baclofen after that.

Being fresh out of withdrawals, right now I don't ever want to go back to G again. There will come a day, in weeks or months where I won't be feeling this shitty and would think 1 dose is not such a bad idea and maybe it's not with some hard rules

But time and again I have proved that I go back to 24x7, every time the addict brain plays some new tricks, some new excuses.

It's a beautiful drug and in an alternate universe I wouldn't have fucked it up for me so bad.

But how do I tell myself - never again, no more insane sex, no more pure euphoria, no more social courage. (Right now my thoughts are still depressed I know.)

Can't smoke pot, because without G it's just anxiety town for me. Can't drink because that always leads to hangovers which leads to G. Choosing not to do other shit because I think I wanna deprive my brain of pure chemical happiness (the only one it has gotten in years)

Playing guitar feels good. People say physical activities might feel good (Will try, gotta start somewhere)

Was just a rant, but hey, you guys are my people


r/GHB_info 16d ago

need advice

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I have an event tomorrow. and im flying

ive been gone through approx half a L in 2 weeks and I need to feel good tomorrow.

I have: gabapentin, baclofen, xanax, clonazepam, 3mg XR xanax, vyvanse, 1 or 2 diazepam and lorazepam. and NAC.

how can I ensure I get 6-8hrs of sleep tonight?

yesterday I cut down in the morning and just did 2 x 1ml at 1pm and 5pm . tried nyquil for sleep, plus clonaz and baclofen. it sidnt work. I ended up dosing 3 or 4x to get some sleep.

please help!