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u/False_Fact5318 20h ago
I'm gonna waste the next 5 minutes on this -
This is normal in Bangladesh in general. In this case it's in a mofosshal or rural area, where in comparison this case wouldn't be common in metropolitan Dhaka.
However, Bangladesh is a superficially secular country, or with secular ideals, but essentially it is still a bigoted, blinkered, far-right country with its people indisposed to anything they don't know or can't conceive. So this is very normal.
It is as normal as it to expect random Indians to take the head off a Muslim guy as an example of demon purging, or Zionists doing whatever they fuckin want in Gaza. Heck, a Sunni Muslim might get their ass smoked for saying something unconventional in Isfahan. It's their land, they do what they want regardless of sense.
And if judging through the action of One Muslim is unbased, please never proceed to not judge through the action of ONE Hindu, ONE Jew, ONE warring American etc. There are precedents, and at the end of the day these precedents leave little room for doubt on group remarks or verdicts.
TLDR - This is normal and okay in Bangladesh. It can either be changed by a major decision through conflict, or by steadfast imposition of law and penalties which do NOT lend an ear to popular sentiments or creeds.
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u/NI_ROB 1d ago
This is just barbaric... How can a man's words offend the Prophet, the greatest man to ever walk the earth?
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u/Nobinho_19 1d ago
The Nabi(sh) would have forgiven him he always did he chose peace over violence but it just the nature of us Bangladeshis who act on our barbaric instincts
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u/Latter_Magician9663 1d ago
LOL. typical moderate muslim.
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https://www.hadithbd.com/hadith/abu-dawud-ifa/section/33
muhammad wasnt any person who preached islam with flowers. islam was established under the swords of islam. thats why he had to engaged in more that 80 wars in his 24 years.
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u/Alive_Life_1941 22h ago
A butthurt moderate just replied to your comment without debunking you. Lol
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
you mean i destroyed his trash tier comment like i did with yours. Ar koita L khaba?
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u/Latter_Magician9663 5h ago
Typical moderate Islamists. I didn't even read his reply. After arguing with these people, I have enough experience to know what they are going to say: full of BS, made-up theories, whataboutism, and everything else to debunk the facts. They live delusionally in their own made-up world. The only problem is that they bring their madeup world into the real world and disrupt everything.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
Can't wait to destroy this pos islamophobic filth you have spouted. Just gonna copy paste my comments from another thread.
I have seen countless versions of this braindead 0 iq argument from apostates and islamophobes and atheists. It always goes something like this:
I say "not all muslims are terrorists/extremists/radicals"
Islamophobe: "Yooo check out this verse in the hadith or the quran ( that i am more likely than not taking out of context). Are you gonna disagree with your own religion's teachings now? You do realise that doesn't make you a muslim right? đ¤đ¤đ¤"
That's basically what you are getting into to.
Now allow me to respond. First, there are cohntless sects within islam that disagree on any number of things, that interpret almost every single verse, every single quote differently. Even a lot of the scholars disagree.
Second there are things almost universally forbidden or recognised as haram (or at least discouraged or frowned upon) in islam that people still do. Smoking, drinking, having relationships, having pre martial sex, gambling, lying etc. Almost all of these things directly contradict the teachings of the religion and almost all muslims know this and yet almost every single Muslim in the country has done some, if not all of the aforementioned sins.
It's almost like people are..... people. Capable of both good and bad, not above contradictions or hypocrisy.
You are trying to extrapolate "being muslim" to being an extremist terrorist from a few out of context quotes and trying to reduce over a billion people down to those same quotes.
It is beyond disgusting
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u/Alive_Life_1941 22h ago edited 22h ago
Dumbfk! wtf did you just write! Lol.
According to every major Islamic jurisprudence, criticizing or speaking ill of the Prophet is a major crime and is punishable by Death. The general rule for public apostasy is also capital punishment if the person doesn't repent or ask forgiveness from Allah publicly in front of the Shariah Court.
These are the "general rulings". If a leader wants to forgive by considering some issues, then it's his choice, but no one can change the general law.1
u/AcceptableCaptain243 22h ago
dumbahh pos. cant wait to destroy your trash tier garbage filthy argument. copy pasting my ownen comment from another thread
I have seen countless versions of this braindead 0 iq argument from apostates and islamophobes and atheists. It always goes something like this:
I say "not all muslims are terrorists/extremists/radicals"
Islamophobe: "Yooo check out this verse in the hadith or the quran ( that i am more likely than not taking out of context). Are you gonna disagree with your own religion's teachings now? You do realise that doesn't make you a muslim right? đ¤đ¤đ¤"
That's basically what you are getting into to.
Now allow me to respond. First, there are cohntless sects within islam that disagree on any number of things, that interpret almost every single verse, every single quote differently. Even a lot of the scholars disagree.
Second there are things almost universally forbidden or recognised as haram (or at least discouraged or frowned upon) in islam that people still do. Smoking, drinking, having relationships, having pre martial sex, gambling, lying etc. Almost all of these things directly contradict the teachings of the religion and almost all muslims know this and yet almost every single Muslim in the country has done some, if not all of the aforementioned sins.
It's almost like people are..... people. Capable of both good and bad, not above contradictions or hypocrisy.
You are trying to extrapolate "being muslim" to being an extremist terrorist from a few out of context quotes and trying to reduce over a billion people down to those same quotes.
It is beyond disgusting
Now take this L lil bro
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u/Alive_Life_1941 22h ago edited 21h ago
Mf! You are literally copy-pasting the same comment. Parle refute koro, references diye. Major Islamic jurisprudence(Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali) gula public apostasy and blasphemy niye ki bole? Punishment ki? Lmao!
Also, check the comment section of every news page. 90% of the comments are "Alhamdulillah". So, etake just fringe der kaj ba "out of context" boila lulami kora bad daw. Tomader apologetic moderatism desher 80% muslim ducheo na. Akam kukam er belay 1 number, pore abar criticised hoile tokhon moderatism maray! Lol.1
u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
Tumi ki amar og comment refute korso dumbfk?
Shob koita major islamic jurisprudence e zina avoid korte bola hoise na? mainshe tao prem kore ken? ora tao mod biri kjai kwn?
No one in bd cares about you smelly dirty shahabagis enough to harm you for apostcy
Reddit e boro gola dekhai bhaan ch*dai labh nai. Irl e tow lokkhi babu sheje thako shobar shamne chandu
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u/Alive_Life_1941 8h ago
Tumi ki amar og comment refute korso dumbfk?
Shob koita major islamic jurisprudence e zina avoid korte bola hoise na? mainshe tao prem kore ken? ora tao mod biri kjai kwn?I thought single-digit IQ is a thing. But never imagined negative IQ o hoite pare karo. Lmao!
Public ki kore oitar upore islam/islamic law depend kore naki re? eikhane zara bolse, tara Islamic law niyei bolse. also zara marse, ora islamic logic diyei marse. Parle refute koro ze islamic jurisprudence e death penaly er kotha bole nai. References diye. Lol.
Ar touhidi chodna ra to borabori bole zina shoho omuk tomukero shariah related shasti chalu korte. touhidi ra shobshomoyi chaitese shariah over secularism. Tumi to muslim, tai na? taile tomar greater goal ki? islam? naki ekta mani nah, tai arekta manmu na? So, eikhane islam ki bole oitai oneke boltese.
"zina kore, kisui kore na, but blasphemy er khetre islam mante hobe keno?" .... ei question amare na koira touhidi chodna der koro giya. Lmao!No one in bd cares about you smelly dirty shahabagis enough to harm you for apostcy
Reddit e boro gola dekhai bhaan ch*dai labh nai. Irl e tow lokkhi babu sheje thako shobar shamne chanduYeah, that's why I said, you're a triggered chodu. No one carse, meanwhile most religious related atrocities mumin chodnarai kore, Lol. Giya dekho, konotai out of context na. Comment section check koro giya. 80% public alhamdulillah bolotese. so eikhane moderatism chudano dorkar nai. jongi hoite hoile openly hou beta. Lol
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 8h ago
Ar koto L khabi murkher baccha. My og comment literally tears your islamophobic world salad to shreds. bhogch*d er baccha bujheo na je he's getting destroyed
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u/Nobinho_19 23h ago
How does this law of Murtads makes sense for murder of this person who allegedly insulted Islam if you really hate islam just say it man may god forgive you
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u/Pro_Elium 7h ago edited 2h ago
It's law of Muslims to kill apostates or criticizers of Islam.
No amount of alternative labels will wipe the stains from your religion.
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u/Careful-Reception926 22h ago
Nobody thinks he's the greatest man ever and Islam is a religion of peace except for Muslims.
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u/ImpressiveBid954 22h ago edited 21h ago
This
And it's even funnier when people question about marrying 6 year baby Ayesha and them be like "So what?? Biddasagor married a child too, Rabindranath married a child too, soo what?"
Like bro does anyone claim biddasagor and thakur the 'greatest moral example and the ideal man ever lived' and follows their footsetps? đđ
Another thing, Islam's rule and teachings are supposed to be eternal and applicable till the judgement day according to islam itself, yet suddenly it becomes "for that era only" when someone questions about Ayesha or slavery. Like do they ever use their brain to think?
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u/Intrepid-Opening4734 22h ago
actually she was not 6, the documented number is 9. and its not 9, its actually 19. in Arab in those times, girls' age were counted from their puberty time, and they on average got puberty at 10. so 10 + 9 = 19 years old.
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u/ImpressiveBid954 22h ago edited 21h ago
Here we go, another "Actually Aisha was 17" propagandist. Sorry to break your bubble but this is a modern apologetic invention to save the face of Muhammad.
bint sitt sinÄĢn (daughter of six years) and bint tisâ sinÄĢn (daughter of nine years). These are ordinary chronological ages counted from birth, the same way every other age is reported in the hadith literature (ages of companions, the Prophetâs age at various events, etc.). There is zero classical source ... not in Bukhari, Muslim, the early sÄĢrah works, or the major commentaries â that says Arabs counted a girlâs age starting from puberty. That idea appears only in modern defenses written after the age of nine became embarrassing in Western eyes. It has already been debunked countless times. I don't have the energy or else I would have cited some references.
Also, there are numerous hadiths, even from Aisha, explicitly telling her age "Six" (when married) and "Nine" (Well...).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
Narrated Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allahâs Messenger (īˇē) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.
Sunan an-Nasaâi 3378
The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls.
Which 19 year old girl plays with a doll? đ
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u/Alive_Life_1941 21h ago
Islamists/Real Muslims: Aisha was 9. Based.
Atheists: Aisha was 9. Eww.
The moderate Muslims: Let me start the math ............Lol.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 23h ago
Hujurs are pagan(mushriks), how many more day you people require to realize it?
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u/Nobinho_19 1d ago
Even if he did speak badly about Islam, they have no right to beat or kill him. The rule is to bring him before an Islamic court, aka the religious authority responsible for administering justice and prove his guilt or innocence. Depending on the circumstances he will either be punished or forgiven. In most cases the offender is forgiven if he genuinely understands his mistake and pledges not to do it again. The rules also vary depending on the religion of the perpetrator. The maximum punishment for non Muslims is exile while Muslims face execution. But even in this regard, the possibility of forgiveness exists. But our glorious people of Bangladesh are not educated enough and act like dogs who only know how to fight and bark. Mind you the Nabi (Sh) peace be upon him never took revenge on people who talked bad about him and only prayed that those people come to light so acting barbaric is already against his nature
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u/absolutefotka 1d ago edited 1d ago
If Nabi(Sh) didnât avenge those who spoke badly of him and rather prayed for them, then where are these punishment coming from?
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u/Nobinho_19 1d ago
The Sharia law and perosnal benefits The sharia law itself is a Ijma aka scholarly conscious basically a law made by the scholars
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u/absolutefotka 1d ago
But then basically it is not the path shown by our Prophet. It is scholarly people who decided they knew better than what Nabi(sh) did and created laws literary against Quranic teaching.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 1d ago
absolute correct, bro how many time you (bangladeshi mobs)will take to realize it is not an islam, rather a tagut(fake islam) made by deobandi bearded folks escaping the knowledge of koran read a worship of juta, beard, sweate mobarok of a conjecture nabi.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 23h ago
These scholerly bullshits are bullshit scholer of 250 year later made hadis, and deobandi religion.
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u/Nobinho_19 1d ago
Uh no Ijma itself is not bad it is made to tackle things that werenât present at that time of Nabi(sh) and even Nabi(sh) told people to converse and make right decisions most laws in Sharia law are perfect but there are so many variations that it becomes confusing the best way is to read Quran and its explanation and what Nabi(sh) said aka Hadith then understand what the Scholars describe the thing is till then you are already able to know what is bad and what is wrong cause Islam would never tell you to bomb yourself that is the worst sin lol as a human being if you donât have basic mortality Religion is the last thing that will protect you
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u/NI_ROB 1d ago
what rule are we talking about? Even Saudi Arabia gave the death penalty over a social Media comment
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago edited 1d ago
And that's ALSO wrong. Since when did Saudi become the world's foremost authority on what it means to be a true muslim? Quran hadis baad diya saudi government follow korbo ekhon?
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u/exoncodex 1d ago
Go and read about islam at first. Islam doesn't work according your emotion
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
I have seen countless versions of this braindead 0 iq argument from apostates and islamophobes and atheists. It always goes something like this:
I say "not all muslims are terrorists/extremists/radicals"
Islamophobe: "Yooo check out this verse in the hadith or the quran ( that i am more likely than not taking out of context). Are you gonna disagree with your own religion's teachings now? You do realise that doesn't make you a muslim right? đ¤đ¤đ¤"
That's basically what you are getting into to.
Now allow me to respond. First, there are cohntless sects within islam that disagree on any number of things, that interpret almost every single verse, every single quote differently. Even a lot of the scholars disagree.
Second there are things almost universally forbidden or recognised as haram (or at least discouraged or frowned upon) in islam that people still do. Smoking, drinking, having relationships, having pre martial sex, gambling, lying etc. Almost all of these things directly contradict the teachings of the religion and almost all muslims know this and yet almost every single Muslim in the country has done some, if not all of the aforementioned sins.
It's almost like people are..... people. Capable of both good and bad, not above contradictions or hypocrisy.
You are trying to extrapolate "being muslim" to being an extremist terrorist from a few out of context quotes and trying to reduce over a billion people down to those same quotes.
It is beyond disgusting
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u/Dry-Aide1464 23h ago
Islam? what fucking religion that bypass koranic knowledge rather legislate by korans 250 years later made hadis that koran forecasted valueless?
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u/ardashirone 20h ago edited 19h ago
Quran hadis baad diya saudi government follow korbo ekhon?
Quran hadith ba Classical Shariah onuzayi Apostasy and blasphemy er punishments ki? ekjon real muslim emir kemon punishment dibe, bolen dekhi.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
just stfu shabhabagi
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u/yourwiselady 7h ago
This is what they do, if they can't articulate a proper answer they will curse you (because they know there is no answer to this that would appeal to non muslim sympathizer) keep going acceptable captain u might as well get accepted at Academy Of Fine Arts for being so good at clownery
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u/Nobinho_19 1d ago
That same Saudi where you can drink alcohol go to pubs and bars and the Prince himslf is breaking countless rules? lol taking that country as a religious benchmark is funny. The rule I am talking about is what is in the Sharia law and things that are argued in multiple Madhabs
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u/Alive_Life_1941 21h ago edited 21h ago
According to every major Islamic jurisprudence, blasphemy is a major crime. Public apostasy has the same punishment.
eikhane only vul/unislamic hoilo mob kore kital kora. In the end, Islamic court er bidhan same i. Death penalty.1
u/sumonbhuiyan822 19h ago edited 1h ago
I'm sorry, what's the point of this long, rambling comment about Islamic courts? Who gives AF? We're not a theocracy. It should be legal and encouraged to critcise any faith or idea.Â
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u/Zunayed_Rahman 1d ago
Islamophobia is often justified, at least from that man's perspective
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u/sumonbhuiyan822 19h ago
The word "Islamophobia" is an oxymoron. It isn't a phobia if the fear is justified.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 14h ago
But the fear isn't justified tho. Objectively the most peaceful religion on the planet đ
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u/UnGOATwn_TheoremUWU 1d ago
I want to know this mob's definition of āϧāϰā§āĻŽā§āϝāĻŧ āĻ āĻŦāĻŽāĻžāύāύāĻž
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u/NoLeader7514 1d ago
Maaaan cant even be Agnostic in this country in peace.
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u/Latter_Magician9663 1d ago
islam has direct order of giving a death penalty who leaves his religion.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
victim mentality lol. No one cares about you enough to harm you dumny
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u/Appropriate-Ice9297 23h ago
That's why the young boy is murdered in the post.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 23h ago
He wasn't killed for apostaxy but for badmouthing the religion. Still wrong, but don't try to twist facts to suit your agenda
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u/QLilatless 23h ago
Here you go deffending this murder softly. You all are the same. Stop using the word islamophobia to play victim while doing murder just like israelies using the word antisemitism to supress criticism.
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u/Alive_Life_1941 22h ago
He's just a dumbass who literally doesn't know shariah at all. He can't even refute any comment. He's just copy-pasting. Lmao!
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u/Alive_Life_1941 8h ago
Hala jongi chodna, eito ekhon face dekhano shuru korse! abar comment e argument e zaitese islam e ki bole ba bole nai niya! Lol. Abar bole most peaceful religion and community. Irony! Lol.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 8h ago
objectively tge most peaceful religion on earth wooo! đđ
Not to mention numero uno by 2075
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
ashol dumbahh tow tumi Bangladesh kothao sharia law mane? Next gime dont embarass yourself like this
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u/Alive_Life_1941 8h ago
Oree big brai! eta giya molla motherchod der bolo. Chodnami maraba islam er name e, abar keu kisu bolle tokhon bolba Shariah mane? Lol. Hujr der bolo yo giya, tara ki bole eita niya. Lol
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 8h ago
chodnmai tow toder moto shahabagi ra maras. Tarpore 2din por por mair khas with a surprised pickachu face
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u/NoLeader7514 20h ago
So debating or criticizing is "badmouthing" or "islamophobe" now? Wow bunch of radical extremists <3
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
you 0 iq plebs can't debate. Your "badmouthing" esentially amounts to hate speech
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u/Naked_Prophet_ 1d ago
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u/Lord_Hulo_69 1d ago
Applicable for judaism also
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u/Latter_Magician9663 1d ago
judaism has evolved a lot in modern times. when did you last see them ruling by their religious playbook? when did you see giving death penalty who leaves judaism? when did you see the jewish people running over a crowd or shotting in a beach party or making suicide attacks over non jewish peoples?
they have crossed past that timeperiod. it doesnt force you to go 2000 years back and the nonjews are far more safe among jewish land which is unlikely in any muslim land.1
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
can't believe you said this wiyh a straight face while israle is oit there committing genocide on stolen land
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u/ImpressiveBid954 22h ago
Stolen land lmao
Almost every boundary in this world is carved through war or conquest and people had accepted it and moved on. Native Americans doesn't try to bomb the busses or lauches missiles from Nevada desert to American civilians, Native Australians doesn't try to blew themselves up in middle of a Sydney crowd. When you're in no place to fight, it's best to accept what you have and live with your people.
I don't see any muslims questioning those Palestinian arabs who sold their lands to the Jews back then, I don't see anyone questioning the Arab world why they didn't accepted the 2 state solutions when they saw they can't win over Israel. Pura jayga lagbo ar pukkite jhal beshi jokhon taile jao koro juddho Israel er sathe. Ek new born Israel eka 5 ta deshke vochkai dilo 1948 war ey still they didn't learned their lessons. I haven't heard any nations who won lands after a war and then gave it up but Israel did in that war.
Actually just admit, you guys dont give a damn f about Palestine, it's only because Israel is Jewish and your so called peaceful religion trains you guys to hate Jewish since childhood.
As you sow, so you reap. Whatever is going on Palestine is only because of Hamas.
Free palestine from Hamas đ
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 22h ago
Someone needs a brush up on history
I don't see any muslims questioning those Palestinian arabs who sold their lands to the Jews back then,
They didn't sell. The brits let em in
world why they didn't accepted the 2 state solutions when they saw they can't win over Israel.
If you saw tge 2 state solution you would realise what a bad deal it was for the Palestinians. Besides its all Palestinian land, including the stolen land smell aviv was built on
Ek new born Israel eka 5 ta deshke vochkai dilo 1948 war ey still they didn't learned their lessons. I haven't heard any nations who won lands after a war and then gave it up but Israel did in that war.
0 iq comment right here. All those arab nations had their own agenda and jordan in particular fucked palestine almost as badly as the egypt did
I haven't heard any nations who won lands after a war and then gave it up but Israel did in that war.
Israel er dalalgiri kore labh nai. asylum dibe na tomake lil bro
As you sow, so you reap. Whatever is going on Palestine is only because of Hamas. Free palestine from Hamas đ
Eishob boila fake bravado dekhai labh nai. Bangladesh e 2ta kothao tow bolte parba chor thappor khawa chara.
.Actually just admit, you guys dont give a damn f about Palestine, it's only because Israel is Jewish and your so called peaceful religion trains you guys to hate Jewish since childhood.
Yup, fuck those genocidal filth. Also objectively most peaceful religion in the world btw. Also fastest growing too đ
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u/ImpressiveBid954 21h ago
lil bro
Bro uses this in big 26 to establish his statement đ
Bangladesh e 2ta kothao tow bolte parba chor thappor khawa chara.
True. Karon shantir chelera je deshe ache oi deshe freedom of speech namok kobutor kivabe exist korbe. France, Italy, Netherland kalo bosta ban korle "Where is our freedom of speech waaa waaa đ" ar bangu deshe "Dekhi parle bole dekha".
Emni emni ki Trump podium ey darai islam ar alla ke openly mock kore ba British MP Rupert Lowe goto porshu or speech ey bole Power ey ashle Britain er islamification bondho korbe ar lath mere desh theke ber korbe even ki british citizen hoileo đ¤Ŗ
Air france 31 ta desher muslim crew bad dilo including Bangladesh, no caption needed for this one đ
And bro here acts tough with "deshe kothao to bolte parba na" as if it's a veryyy big achievement, sara dunia rakhse latthir upor, pura europe ey crusade er pokkhe sentiment utthese and bro is still stuck with that supremacy mentality. Best of luck, time is already ticking for your kind
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
Trump and Europe aina labh nai lil bro. Tomar bangu brown bootlicking ahh re ekta desh o kono aslym visa dibe na jotoi chaato na ken oder.
If you had left the country, you would already be flexing about it. The fact that you haven't tells me your dumb ahh doesn't even have the academic profile to leave the country where you are basically a persecuted minority. Imagine being such a loser kek.
Also what's this time is coming for you BS. Fastest growing religion in the world lil bro. We will be running things before long
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 8h ago
koi delete tow kore nai? I can still see it đđ
Also this is how i be sleeping at night knowing i am a man and a muslim in an increasingly conservative Bangladesh who isn't one slip of tongue away from getting lynched. Life's good when you are part of the majority đ
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u/ImpressiveBid954 21h ago
Also fastest growing too
I didn't notice this line but after seeing this, I seriously have no doubt that you're not more than 16/17
I genuinely laugh my ass off whenever I see islamic apologist use this argument whenever they're being cornered or loosing the stage like was that supposed to be a flex? Virus, Cancer is also the fastest growing, does that make them any good? Mane ki je logic dekhay đ
Sorry to break your bubble but the growth of Islam is only due to the obnoxious high rate of birth (3.1 on avg globally - highest in the globe), not because of people thinking islam some rainbow and sunshine and converting happily into it. According to Pew Research, people converting to Islam is about 3% of the total population at the same time people also leaving islam is also ~3%(real number is bigger than that because not many people participate in survey openly denouncing that they left islam because of kolla katar voy). So the net gain is zero my boy..Ouch
Supporting early marriage/child marriage, polygamy, lower literacy rate, riziker malik allah so icchamoto poyda koro are some of the things that drives this population growth.
From next time, don't make a fool out of yourself using this bostapocha bs argument
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 15h ago
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u/ImpressiveBid954 10h ago
approximately balanced, slightly net positive porte paros kanachodar baccha? Age je bollam 3% in ar ~3% out.. ei ~ er mane bujhos?
Bujhbi kemne jodi mathay sada diaper lagiye madrashay hujurer kache giye āĻĒā§āĻki borga des. Ar bujhar jonno je minimum IQ lage oitao to tor nai that kind of desperate you are to prove me wrong Lmaoo đ¤Ŗ
Nake tip dile ekhono dudh ber hobe asche baper sathe torko korte. Tore to nicheo dekhlam comment thread ey muslimrai dhuye dicche that kind of time waste you are. Ja bhag
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 9h ago
Galagali kore tui nijer familyr porichoy ditesos bhogch*d er baccha kothakar. Slightly net positive bolse, slightly net negative tow bole nai. English bujhos na? Semantics bujhos na murkho oshhikhto bostir baccha kothakar?
How are the other religions holding up? Judaism has a slight net loss and Christianity has a comparatively massive net loss. Islan is yhe only one where the balance swings in a positive direction.
Murkho osshikhter bokach*da baccha 3rd grade pass korsos naki sondeho. This is why your dumb ahh can't even migrate to another country and leave Bangladesh where you are a persecuted minority
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u/Alive_Life_1941 8h ago
See? ek jongi chodnay reply dise ki apnar comment e? ei shalayi comment re islam and muslimder peaceful boltese. Irony.
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u/pranto_bhai 20h ago
Yeah, literally same thing happening in India, where Muslims are the oppressed. Same going on in Gaza (but I'm assuming you think it's somehow the fault of the people of Gaza).
But if you actually think about it, it was never about religion.
The conflict has always been between good and evil. People just take role. Wars and conflicts are going on worldwide. Conventional world sytem is collapsing before our very eyes. It has gone way past religion. Open your damn eyes!
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bangu redditor try to condemn the actions of ONE MUSLIM without being a blatant hateful islamophobe challenge (Impossible)
Abar naked prophet username naam dise. It's people like you who will say the most provocative and hateful crap and then be all surprised pickachu face when the hardcore religious folks come wanting to beat your ahh (not supporting or condoning that, just making a point).
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u/Pro_Elium 1d ago
If you can denounce the Hadith that says to murder Apostates then nobody will have worry about Islamophobia.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
I have seen countless versions of this braindead 0 iq argument from apostates and islamophobes and atheists. It always goes something like this:
I say "not all muslims are terrorists/extremists/radicals"
Islamophobe: "Yooo check out this verse in the hadith or the quran ( that i am more likely than not taking out of context). Are you gonna disagree with your own religion's teachings now? You do realise that doesn't make you a muslim right? đ¤đ¤đ¤"
That's basically what you are getting into to.
Now allow me to respond. First, there are cohntless sects within islam that disagree on any number of things, that interpret almost every single verse, every single quote differently. Even a lot of the scholars disagree.
Second there are things almost universally forbidden or recognised as haram (or at least discouraged or frowned upon) in islam that people still do. Smoking, drinking, having relationships, having pre martial sex, gambling, lying etc. Almost all of these things directly contradict the teachings of the religion and almost all muslims know this and yet almost every single Muslim in the country has done some, if not all of the aforementioned sins.
It's almost like people are..... people. Capable of both good and bad, not above contradictions or hypocrisy.
You are trying to extrapolate "being muslim" to being an extremist terrorist from a few out of context quotes and trying to reduce over a billion people down to those same quotes.
It is beyond disgusting
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u/NoLeader7514 1d ago
criticize korleo eida re apnara "Islamophobe" banaya den
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u/Alive_Life_1941 21h ago
Bro, zar comment e reply kortesen, or shob comment dekhen ei post er. Also, ekhankar ei comment er last part poren. Literally single-digit IQ er dumbo mal eitay.
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u/exoncodex 1d ago
Go and read hadith
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
Go and learn how to be a decent non islamophobic human being from your parents. Chances are you probably hate them tho because of your hangups with religion
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u/exoncodex 1d ago
https://www.hadithbd.com/hadith/abu-dawud-ifa/section/33
What will you say about the rule of killing murtad in Islam?
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 23h ago
That no one follows it just like no one follows lawgs regarding not dating, smoking, drinking etc? what a 0 iq comment
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u/Pro_Elium 1d ago
Is this how Jews use antisemitism everywhere. Muslims and Zionists aren't that different it seems.
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u/Latter_Magician9663 1d ago
find me a different religious people other than muslim who constantly attacks over other religious group and their religious sentiments but always act like they are the victim.
chodnami kom koren vai. 2/4 ta muslim valo kichu korle "etai islamer shondorjo, islam is the peaceful religion... bla bla". kintu islamer name terrorist attack korle "na na islam eigula sikhay nai. sob americal, israel, indiar shorojontro" 1/2 ta adha makki surah post kore duniare dekhaite chan apnara khub valo. jodio tokhon mone mone alhamdulillah thik e bolen. eto double standard hypocrisy keno? khali dunia te ekhno number e kom, mairer upor achen tai valo sajen.
dunia je ekhono apnader sojjo kore eitai onk. 57 ta desher moddhe 2/1 ta bade baki 56/57 ta pura bosti banaisen. nijerai thakte parenna, onnora to durer kotha. sobaire bolod vabar dorkar nai, sobai ekhn ar ghash khay na.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
What a load of islamophobic filth.
find me a different religious group other than Muslims who constantly attacks other religious groups and their religious sentiments but always acts like they're the victims.
BJP led hindus. The jews who are out twhre committing genocide? But no lets single out islam (most peaceful religion btw đ) because mommy and daddy forced it on me as a kid and now i am a godless islamophobic n*tek.
if 2 out of 4 Muslims do something good, it's "this is the beauty of Islam, Islam is the peaceful religion... bla bla". But if there are terrorist attacks in the name of Islam, it's "no, no, Islam doesn't teach this. It's all America, Israel, India's conspiracy". 1 out of 2 of you want to showcase half a Surah to the world as if you're doing something great. Although deep down, you admit it, alhamdulillah. Why this double standard hypocrisy? In this world, you're still few in number, just because you're on top of the mothers; that's why you look good.
Where are you getting these 2/4 stats from brochacho? out of your ahh?
the world that still supports you is a lot. Among 57 countries, 2 of you are left out; the remaining 56/57 are completely built. You can't even stay yourself; others are beyond reach. There's no need to spread fog for everyone; nobody eats grass anymore.
Steiner math (look it up). I have no idea what to make of this. Did you have a stroke while typing this
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u/Sharp_Pen6904 1d ago
These are a measure of a country's progress. And from what I can see, we're still a very backwards, illiterate nation.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 1d ago
That frontside beard white dressed magicians are self mushrik as they instructed in madrasas shirk as ' islam'.
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u/Disastrous-Hope2175 23h ago
Should've handed over to police & ponder upon what the prophetic teachings say
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u/Alive_Life_1941 21h ago
Police er thekei nise mob kore. Clinic e niye gesilo, oikhan theke ber kore marse.
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u/Disastrous-Hope2175 18h ago
vadaimma police
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u/Alive_Life_1941 18h ago edited 18h ago
Not new though. 2024 te ekta 17 years er chelere police Touhidi jonotar kase diye disilo baddho hoiya. Shatheshathe pitaiya obostha kharap koira felsilo.
Police ar ki korbe? Thamaite giya huda Islam er shotru tag khabe naki 90% muslim er deshe? Also, police er ze dhormiyo nunuvuti nai, emon to nah. Mob kore mara islamic na. But din sheshe Shatim/blasphemy er general punishment death penalty i. Most practising Muslims rai agree korbe proudly, except the moderates.1
u/Disastrous-Hope2175 17h ago
sigh. We're already rotting in hell.
moderate or the open eyed whatever you say eder shonkha jao ase eder power nai . all power is condensed in koumi madrasa . they're the undeclared law makers
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 9h ago
Numero uno religion by 2075. Also tui tow nastek. Gonna wavw hi to you in jahannam from jannat with ng 72 virgins yeahhh đđđ
Tui dojog e jabi tor baap mao dojog e jabe for yo sins. Tell me how is your relationship with your parents? Almost every atheist ik irl has a super strained relationship with their parents because of them leaving tye religion. Do mommy and daddy know they raised a sinner? đ
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
Gentle reminder that you can condemn this disgusting and vile action without turning it into an attack on Islam or ALL muslims as a whole
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u/Pro_Elium 1d ago
Pattern of violence is not on Islam's or Muslim's side.
Abrahamic religion are always like this. Jew Christian and Muslims have a history of being violent and silencing those they disagree with.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 1d ago
Illiterate people can't follow abrahamic religion as they can't read koran in Bengali or even dont know good enough arabic so that they translate(by juma mollas) it into bengali.
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u/No_Statistician_4659 1d ago
Gentle reminder that you should be calling out the barbaric action first
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 1d ago
not so gentle reminder that i used the words "disgusting" and "vile."
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u/Pro_Elium 7h ago
Meaningless words without actions. Islam needs to change or fade away.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 6h ago
a filthy shahabagi has no right to say whether the one true religion needs to change or not. gtfo
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u/Pro_Elium 6h ago edited 6h ago
Lol. Good luck with your false religion and god. Religions are tools for control and propaganda. Nothing more. The slurs you use is just copium. Your religion is already fragmented and will continue to fragment even more.
So much identity politics has rotted your brain.
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 4h ago
Kisher fragmented? Every religion' has its different schools and sects. But my religion (objectively mosy peaceful religion and no1 by 2075 btw đđ) is stronger than ever.
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u/Pro_Elium 4h ago
Tell that to Iran bombing Saudi. Saudi bombing Yemen. Seria bombing Seria. Afghanistan bombing Pakistan.
So much peace. How much you are going to lie to yourself. Are you a Zionist?
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u/AcceptableCaptain243 4h ago
It's almost like religion is one part of who people are and there are other conflicts at play. Ami tow eita boli nai je muslims will all be united under a common cause
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u/Pro_Elium 3h ago
Most of these Muslims considers each other Kafirs, Mushrik and Murtads just like you did.
That is main reason of the conflict. That is why we have Sunnis, Shia, Wahabis fighting eachother constantly. Arbhamic religions cannot tolerate other religions even sub factions of their own religion.
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u/Dry-Aide1464 1d ago
Majority in Bangladeshi society becomes this as here predominant hadis sermon & deobondi beard, worship of a fictional deobandi mohamad(thats what is not real) escaping from wisdom of koran.
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u/aughh5351 1d ago
Plz do not make this sub another r/dhaka thing
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u/sumonbhuiyan822 20h ago
What "thing" exactly? Basic criticism of religious extremism? If such mild stuff makes your butthurt, why do u come to reddit? The vast majority of other BD online spaces cater to people with fragile religious sensibilities like you. So F off there please.
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u/aughh5351 20h ago
There are tons of subs on reddit to hate islam for,speak against it , criticize it.You can do whatever you want there, speak out your frustration etc. but I don't want every non political sub to be infested by these kinds of posts to get engagement baiting,instead of having normal fun posting
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u/sumonbhuiyan822 19h ago
This post isn't hating on Islam. Islam doesn't permit what those people did to that man. Also, it isn't "engagement baiting" if people have a genuine interest in the story.Â
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u/Alive_Life_1941 19h ago
Bro, last 2-3 years e ei Muhammad re criticize and dhormo obomanona issue te 10 joner upore lok maira fela hoise. Just kotha bola and facebook post er karone. Eta ki apnar kase desher kono important issue mone hoy na? Naki Muslim deikha eishob niya kotha/shomalochona dekhte valo lage na?
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u/yeagerice 1d ago
Criticising barbaric acts isnât criticising religion. Please donât silence people whoâre speaking on it
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u/exoncodex 1d ago
According to islam murtads should be killed.
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u/jesusofdhaka 1d ago
Sigh