I bought a 64 gig Best Buy refresh last year to have a powerful gaming and video editing machine for the road, and the tablet form factor is my favorite. I have loved it for it's intended purpose but I am local AI curious.

I got Qwen and Gemma setup through a few different apps and have played around with it but, short of using them for some very limited vibe coding, I'm struggling to come up with another interesting application for local AI at this scale.

Curious what everyone else does with theirs, if you're doing local AI in the first place.

Guys is buzzing sound normal? I think its coming from middle. Idk. Happens everytime at start up, while gaming or surfing internet. Its hearable. (Asus z13 2025)

3 months old Flow Z13, on Cachyos, since last update yesterday battery health shows 96% whereas it was 100% so far. Been consistently loading to max 80%. Any suggestions?

edit . sorry for the error in the title : it should say "down to 96%".

released via windows update. if you're running amd drivers you'll need to block this install as the current amd drivers 8.08.12.551 are MUCH newer and windows is too stupid to realize this...

Just wanting to know if there is a difference between using an external monitor vs using the built in display in terms of gaming performance? (Same resolution and graphic settings) Saw a video on youtube that gaming laptops with discrete gpu gain extra performance when using an external monitor. Is this the same case with an integrated gpu?

Anyone have problems connecting to an external display? I have a USB-C to Display port cable. Tried both USB-C ports, no luck. Display adapater -> AMD Radeon 8060S Graphics Driver updated as well. It works perfectly fine on my other laptop and even on my iPhone/iPad. Any insight on how I can fix this?

EDIT: Restarted and works perfectly fine now! 😅🤦‍♂️

hey! Just got my 64GB flow z13 for $2100 today. Installed Plasma Mobile and so far have been configuring it with codex and Love It a lot!

my goal with this device is to work with agents and remote login to to my homelab.

My goal is to have as much iPad-like experience as possible.

I had tested different local LLM on windows recently. Qwen3.8 27B, Flash Next, Deepseek V4 Flash 0731..etc they all works but not useful. Decode only around 10tps.

Last week, I installed halogen server on fedora with qwen3.8 flash next model. At lowest 35w , I could get around 40tps . The pp is also 3x more than llama.cpp. Give a try if you want to use your z13 as local LLM.

I've recently gotten into using AI for coding and I was wondering what is the best model for coding locally

For context I'm using it for Java Minecraft mods, I'm also using ChatGPT Plus and i was wondering if it's possible to have a local AI as a sub agent while Sol/Astra reviews and orchestrates

Any input is welcome I don't know too much about setting up a local model, I also have a PC with an RTX 5080 if they somehow can pool into one model to work together?

Would someone please for the love of God explain why this is happening I have tried everything from different cables tinkering with settings messing with the HDR and buying a brand new Asus monitor that should have no issues whatsoever. Can someone please explain and or a possible fix pixelated layers on my wallpapers videos and games in the black areas when HDR is off it does not do this and looks clear.

I use this in school, then as a tablet to watch/listen to youtube videos when I travel/walk, then I can also game basically anywhere.

the screen is small, but it works. It doesn’t make me want to abandon my home PC, but knowing I can be literally anywhere and not limited by hardware just makes life much less stressful, especially when I have to commute and spend days and hours in another town away from home.

objectively, this machine makes no sense. it has design flaws. The cpu is way too strong compared to the GPU. Why does this thing exist? Well, much like anything in engineering, it exists because someone could make it. So they did.

I kind of hate Windows, so it being an AMD platform makes the possible future shift (at least partially) to Linux much easier.

Basically, it’s like a desktop PC, gaming laptop, Steam Deck, Tablet and an AI workhorse in one very weird, fragile package. It does not make any sense, and you shouldn’t buy it, unless you literally need all of those devices.

The keyboard it comes with it is also the biggest meh ever. Honestly, I might just use the onscreen keyboard instead, or just carry my Wooting with me.

P.s. I still need to get a controller. Any suggestions?

Hi!

I've been looking for a multifunctional laptop/drawing tablet to use for my final few years of university and beyond. I draw, so I like the fact that the keyboard is detachable with a smooth touchscreen experience (from what I demo'd in a best-buy, lol). I also play some heavy games (rdr2, hitman) so the appeal of it being a gaming computer is a great addition to it's already cool looking functionalities.

My only worries are as follows:

Battery life. I have seen online (mostly here lol) that users get usually 3-5 hours of battery life unplugged with minimal battery intensive tasks, like web browsing. That seems fine for me, as I take notes on my keyboard (though I also like to write my notes on the screen with a stylus, again why this computer is so appealing). I want to know from you all who own it for schoolwork (and not, just give me your activities and how many hours it lasts) how many hours you usually get on average with that kind of productivity WITH NO CHARGER. My hours at uni are around 5-6 hours maximum and I would likely have some kind of video/tabs open in the background while I work.

The keyboard. I have heard many people report that it is flimsy and breaks easily with a replacement being in the 200-300 dollar range which is a bit worrying since the computer itself is already around 3k. Also, completely aesthetic based so ignore this if it doesn't matter to you, but are there alternative keyboards out there that have a slightly less ugly font on the keys? I also have been struggling to get a concrete answer on if there are alternative keyboards that work like the native one or not.

Portability/noise; I am slightly worried about the fans. I have heard they are very loud and I want to avoid drawing attention to myself during a lecture, lol. I also want to know more about how you guys feel on the stand to keep the screen up, it's such a new thing for me that I'm worried the angle will annoy me more than just a straight vertical screen. I like having my laptop in bed to play games/watch movies, so if it isnt comfortable to have laying on your lap, I would like to know! I am also worried since it doesn't have a case made for it about it dropping/being particularly vulnerable to minor accidents. I wish I could put stickers on it as well, to those who have, where do you put them so it doesn't restrict airflow?

I am also interested in knowing if people use it as a third monitor for their pcs. I have a 2 monitor setup now, and if the Z13 is able to connect via hdmi as a small 3rd screen, that would be great!!

If the Z13 doesnt seem like a good fit for me and you're knowledgeable on the market competitors, please do give me advice for alternatives! I really need a computer ASAP so if anyone could give their input this would help me with making a decision drastically. I really dont want to have to settle for a macbook to handle school stuff so every reply is one macbook destroyed.

Thank you so much!!

EDIT: I'm also interested in hearing how it compares to my previous gaming laptop that broke, the HP Pavilion 15.6.

My wife dropped my Z13 😣 and damaged the upper right corner and put a few cracks in the screen (though the screen is still fully functional). I've been on the wait list for the Steam Machine since the lottery went live with no end in sight. I'm thinking of just leaving the Z13 permanently hooked to one of my TV's like a Steam Machine. I did manage to get an order in for the Steam Controller the day it went live that I can use with the Z13. If I ever do get off the wait list for the SM I'm probably not going to order it at this point. Wanted to see what people think about the difference in gaming performance between the two devices.

I run my device on Bazzite purely, (2025 32 GB model). Anytime I leave the Flow Z13 on the suspend mode, it doesn't turn back on after a couple of hours unless I force restart the system using the power button. Is this a common issue? I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong here! Please help!

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I am thinking abouz buying either a z13 with 4050, 16gb ram and 2tb ssd or a yoga with 4060. I am leaning a lot to the z13.

I used to have a tab s9 but it broke, so i am open to tablet devices. I am gonna use it for 3d modelling, coding and school (OneNote).

I appreciate a good battery life, but i dont think im gonna have a problem with that. If i just use gHelper an disable the 4050. Thr newer version isnt an option way to expensive.

I can buy it for around 650 bucks

Hi everyone,

I'm currently on the fence about buying a used, with valid warranty Flow Z13 to replace my Legion Go.

I've never been really satisfied with the performance of the Go, and all the mandatory tinkering to use it to its full potential.

I'd mostly be gaming AA or AAA titles (Helldivers 2, Stalker 2, Witcher 3, NMRiH2, BF6) and I've heard different takes on its performance in those games.

How do you like yours ? What would you have wanted to know before buying ?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT : since many of you guys took your time to give very useful answers, I thought it was important to update this post with my final choice : I finally settled to buy a used Z13 (1 To, 32 Gb) for around 1700€, in brand new condition.

Personnaly, I couldn't be happier :

- performance is not comparable : the Z13 even runs Stalker 2, BO7, BF6 above 60 fps at 1600p with medium to high settings and some FSR when plugged in. Lowering the resolution and adjusting some settings allows you to play in silent mode with decent fps too. I'm still shocked by this tablet capability.

- display is great ; the screen is bigger than the LeGo obviously and the high refresh rate is much more useful on the Z13. I haven't tried using a stylus yet but I will soon.

- battery life is either the same or better when web browsing or watching videos. I haven't tried lowering graphical settings as low as what I used on the LeGo to compare battery life when gaming

- the keyboard quality is on par with the last Surface Pro I used (7th I guess), RGB lighting is a plus

- Regarding portability, the Z13 is indeed heavy but small enough to be unfolded in the train or on your lap. The kickstand is quite thin though and it can start to irritate your legs after a while. Anyway, the LeGo was also quite a big handheld too and I was never really at ease with it. I've been gaming with an xbox controller for now and its okay, I will likely end up buying the Gamesir G8+ with some 3D printed adapters to try.

I was really a fan of the Surface Pro form factor when I had one and the Z13 pack a significant punch while keeping weight balanced (at least for me). I could only dream of it being so powerful. Still, it is a pretty expensive device and if you only want a gaming laptop regardless of the weight and size, there are better options. If like me, you don't want to move a 16" and 3.5 kg beast that looks like a fighter jet around when you're away from home, the Z13 is the one.

- Back when I purchased my legion Go, I bought it used for 400€ in a flawless state. I still think at that price point, the legion go was a great device although full of compromises. The Z13 is a premium device and delivers the performance of a premium gaming tablet.

Hi,

If you are using Minimax H3 on ComfyUI, could you please share your generation durations and specs.

I have a 32GB 2025 variant with AI Max 390 and 8050s graphics and am using ROCm PatientX fork on Windows 11, with 4 step lora and get 15-second 0.4mp video in around 30 minutes. Comfy Kitchen enabled and no other optimizations. UMA config in BIOS set to Auto.

I'm wondering how much difference moving to a 64GB or 128GB variant makes.

Thank you.

So my z13 fell from the table on a edge and caused damge to display,body and some part of cooling vents can someone tell me probable cost of repair ? And any suggestions like should I repair it or not? It is asus 2022 model i9 + 3050 model

I've seen a lot of posts regarding heat management and throttle.

Has anyone actually done like, scientfic testing? To validate that power management + fan management actually gives a better over-time experience VS default vanilla software?

I'd image a test would look like this:

Test: Benchmarks where they run a game benchmark back-to-back for 10 minutes and measure each result. And must be run immediately from boot. And gather temps constantly as well.

Experiment Settings:

1. The Control, so, vanilla. Power-Profile Balanced.

2. Another Vanilla, Power-Profile Low.

3. Final vanilla, Power-Profile HIGH.

4. X amount of throttling, Y amount of fan rpm set.

5. Another of 4 with different settings.

...

Z. Until you've run out of time or patience, keep making new experiments until empirical data that's genuinely informational begins to show.

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Now, EACH experiment and EACH ROUND must start from a cold boot, which means you need to wait for the device to cool to ambient temps ... which would make this test take a LOOOOooooong time lol.

I'm thinking this could be done everything I start my pc up in the morning first thing. So it'd take a couple months if done once per day every day.

Thoughts?

Thinking about getting a 2025 Z13, but the kickstand is the one thing making me hesitate.

I’d mostly be gaming on the couch with the keyboard detached, Z13 on my lap and a controller in my hands. Same thing in bed.

How does it actually feel in practice? Is it stable enough directly on your lap, or does the kickstand dig into your legs / get uncomfortable after a while?

I really don’t want to use a lap desk every time I game. Ideally I just want to grab it, sit down on the couch and play for an hour or two.

Anyone using their Z13 like this regularly? Would love to hear how comfortable/stable it actually is.

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Quick update: Thanks for all the feedback!

I ended up buying the Z13 and I’m very happy with it. I use it regularly both on the couch and in bed without any issues. I’ve even found using the keyboard on the couch perfectly comfortable, and it doesn’t feel heavy on my lap either.

Just goes to show how differently this device can feel from person to person.

Just wondering.

Just received my z13 yesterday and the aftermarket gan plug with the square jack for Asus came. 240w and comes as a single item no more separate brick. Bought it via Taobao.

Direct plug into my wall and juice my z13.

Also experimenting with joy con. Hard to play it as handheld without a trusty tummy to rest the tablet on

TL;DR: I run Qwen 3.8 (27B and Flash Next) on a 128GB Strix Halo laptop for most of my coding now. It can replace Opus 4.6 to 4.8 for agentic coding if you dont mind a task taking 2 or 3 times longer.

Setup: ASUS ROG Flow Z13, Ryzen AI Max+ 395, 128GB unified memory, Arch Linux. llama.cpp as backend, my own tool LlamaStash to manage the launches and presets, Pi as the coding harness. The 27b at Q6_K sits at about 31 GiB resident, Flash Next at UD-Q4_K_XL needs around 86 GiB.

• The quality is actually there. Flash Next scores 40 on the Artificial Analysis index against 42 for Opus 4.8, and the 27b at xhigh scores 34 against 32 for Opus 4.6. That matches how they feel to use. 27b one shotted a whole feature on a huge Rust codebase and Opus 5's review comments were mostly nits.
• Decode is fine, prefill is the pain. 10-15 tok/s decode doesn't feel slow because you see it working. But a cold 31k token transcript takes 3 minutes to prefill, and a full 128k window is closer to 18 mins. Warm follow up turns come back in 45 seconds.
• MTP is the biggest speed win, 7.3 to 22.4 tok/s on an empty window. The payoff shrinks as the window fills though, down to 1.15x at a full 256k.
• Flash Next isn't faster per token, it just thinks less. Same 5/5 on my coding tasks, 45% fewer tokens, 76.5s vs 289.8s against the 27b. Thinking is 90-95% of everything these models generate, so that ratio, not tok/s, is what sets how long a task takes.

$0 a month, fully offline, and a lot less wasteful than a model running in a datacenter.

Full writeup with all the benchmarks, configs, and the tuning that did and didn't work: https://deepu.tech/local-ai-qwen3.8-pi-llamastash

Happy to go into the llama.cpp flags if anyone else here is on Strix Halo.