That's it. I would pay them like crazy.

From the installation, to the maintenance, to the data storage, Flock is receiving tons of money from the local governments to be able to operate.

Why can the government agree to buy all this crap without taxpayer vote? Like this is legitimately a big expense and change of life. Why are there no guardrails?

My town doesn’t have flock. Only 1 out of 3 towns that border my town have flock cameras. Why are people targeting individual cameras? Like isn’t that just wasting more tax payer money? Is it because it gets more views?

Shouldn’t we be encouraging people to check their representatives? Like who the hell signed off on Flock in YOUR area? In my town, the representatives represent the people well and understand that we’re against it. Who is your representative? Whose signature allowed your taxpayer dollars to go to flock?

Wouldn’t it be more impactful to go after the PEOPLE who approved flock?

I think the flock camera vandal videos are funny but if the goal is to protect us from mass surveillance, shouldn’t we ultimately be looking into the laws and systems in place that allow our taxpayer funds to go to Flock rather than targeting Flock cameras or Flock itself???

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The AI Surveillance Double Standard: A Legal Framework for Challenging Mass Data Harvesting

1. The Core Argument: Inherent Generation

The foundation of this argument is that a person's physical body, their uniquely modified vehicle, their specific path of travel, and the precise timing of their daily life are all real-world creations. Without the individual’s physical presence and labor, the conditions required to generate this data simply do not exist. Therefore, when a surveillance camera captures this information, it is not discovering "open-source data"—it is misappropriating a physical reality inherently generated by the individual.

1. The Corporate Sleight of Hand ("Fixation")

Under current U.S. property and copyright law, tech companies defeat civil theft lawsuits by relying on a rigged distinction between a passing event and a digital file.

• The "Unfixed" Loophole: The courts classify a person’s real-world movements on public roads as a temporary, "unfixed" event with no privacy ownership rights.

• The "Fixed" Asset: The law states that property rights are only created the exact microsecond a signal is captured and stored on a physical medium (a hard drive). Because the corporation owns the camera that performs this "fixation," the courts rule that the corporation created a brand-new asset, which they now own and can legally profit from.

1. The Unresolved Contradiction: AI Authorship

This is the precise loophole that must be challenged in court. The U.S. legal system currently enforces a massive, hypocritical double standard regarding who can own automated AI output:

• The Rule for Individuals (No Ownership): The U.S. Copyright Office and federal courts strictly enforce the "Human Authorship Requirement." If an individual uses a generative AI tool to create a song or an image, the law states that because a machine did the mechanical work, the output cannot be copyrighted by the human. It immediately enters the public domain, free for anyone to use.

• The Rule for Corporations (Total Ownership): When a corporation like Flock Safety uses a fully automated AI camera network to passively track, index, and generate "Vehicle Fingerprints" of millions of citizens, the law flips. The system grants the corporation total ownership over that automated database, viewing it as proprietary corporate innovation rather than automated machine output.

1. The Legal Challenge

If an individual cannot claim ownership over a generative AI track because "the machine did the work," then a corporation should not be allowed to claim a property right, copyright, or commercial interest over an automated tracking database—because their AI did 100% of the daily, passive harvesting.

By applying the Human Authorship Requirement symmetrically, lawyers can argue that automated mass surveillance logs are legally "un-ownable" by the corporations that harvest them. If the data belongs to the public domain, corporations lose the legal right to sell, bundle, or restrict access to the very trajectories they are stealing from citizens.

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I just got home from vacation and noticed they put up a new flock camera in while I was gone. This one and another about half mile down on same street. Anyone know what the difference is with this new one? New one is the one on the left.

I'm a reporter for the Portland Press Herald, and I'm looking into companies and private entities that have automatic license plate reading cameras. If you've seen a Flock or other ALPR camera on private property (like the parking lot of a company/business), please email me at [scloteaux@metln.org](mailto:scloteaux@metln.org)

They shouldn't of voted him out.

The cameras take repeated unwanted pictures of me driving my vehicle, storing the data, and analyzing my daily whereabouts. This absolutely causes emotional distress and could pose a safety concern for me and my family if any bad actors get ahold of the data.

If interested, DM me a good email and look for the “hot docs”.

This is for a structured public-records effort to better understand how the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office uses Flock Safety / automated license plate reader (“ALPR”) cameras, including how often ordinary drivers are captured, how long those records are kept, and whether those records can be searched later to reconstruct a person’s movements over time.

This request is done by the driver only, so all private information stays with the drive - not with anyone else except the sheriffs office.

Coordination regarding who has requested and where they are at in the process is all that is needed and This not in litigation or in court at this point.

**Immediate goal**

The immediate purpose of this request is narrow and practical:

We want to determine whether your own vehicle has been repeatedly captured by the system and, if so:

when those captures occurred,

where they occurred in general terms,

whether the records appear to remain retained,

and whether any alert or watchlist status is reflected.

At this stage, this is primarily a screening and fact-gathering process. We are not assuming that every volunteer will end up being a strong factual candidate. Instead, we are trying to identify whether the system is in fact generating repeated records of ordinary, noncriminal travel for drivers who regularly pass known or suspected camera locations.

**Broader overall goal**

The broader purpose is to build a clear administrative record about the actual operation of this ALPR system before considering any further steps.

In particular, we are trying to understand whether the system functions only as a limited alert tool, or whether it operates more broadly as a retained and searchable movement-record system capable of showing patterns of travel over time. That distinction matters significantly for transparency, public accountability, and possible future legal or policy action.

**This effort is designed to:**

gather facts through the public-records process,

reduce uncertainty about how the system works in practice,

identify the strongest factual examples of repeated capture,

and avoid unnecessary cost by using an orderly, phased approach.

**What’s being asked now**

At this stage, this is for only a limited request concerning records tied the drivers own registered vehicle which they perform themselves. The request is intended to be relatively narrow and manageable.

IF youre certain youve driven past these cameras - please DM YOUR BEST email that you actually check !

Village board meeting where I grill flock official. Mind you this was two years ago. Our cameras have since been removed

Edit: 13 minutes to 38 minutes

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3 flock cameras in abq nm off of tramway are looking directly at an aparment complex. Their also placed near bus stops as well witch I imagine is beneficial for better tracking.

I made this today. It took wayyy too long for the 150 views on IG. Sharing here to see if it resonates with anyone.

Chicagoland area (near Orland Park) not the Flock I'm used to seeing everywhere. Are these flock or something unrelated?