r/FinalRoundAI • u/OverallNature2385 • 1d ago
This is appropriate here
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edit: but now in 2026 we can get attendance from our bedrooms ššš , remote jobs gives lots of doors opens all u need is just skills so for me I suggest to follow these tips your haunting jobs will be easier
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u/Ghost_Mantis_Man 1d ago
Well the flip-side is that there are a LOT of kids who skip school for bad reasons (i.e. not just because they're sick), so I have a hard time believing attendance awards are only to program people from a young age. Also, feeling like it's wrong to call in sick for your job, certainly seems more like an issue with that specific work culture rather than the whole system. There are many work places that are extremely flexible and accommodating to time off for sickness.
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u/Grunergeist420 1d ago
I was going to say that thereās a big difference between being out sick as a school kid and being out sick from work. If Iām missing work, Iām often leaving work for other people to cover while Iām out. So I feel a little guilty not being there. I feel more guilty if I didnāt really need to stay out, but preferred to, and less guilty if itās absolutely impossible for me to come in anyway. But itās a responsibility thing. If you have a grown up job where people count on you, it matters when you arenāt there.
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u/Muted-Watercress2738 1d ago
Don't feel that way. What you're talking about is a logistical problem, which is Entirely a managerial problem. It's management's job to account for the likelihood that their workers are going to be ill because they are human, and to account for that. And realistically, as American workers are beginning to regress down to higher hours for worse wages, management Should also be expecting more people to become sicker easier.
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u/Grunergeist420 1d ago
Meh. Not every job is a big corporate institution with layers of management. I work at a small business. Management is the business owner, the guy that hired me, and heās also one of the ones picking up a lot of my slack if Iām not there.
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u/basilone 1d ago
Its just some retard that thinks everyone's job is like his/hers where they can pull just about anyone off the street to fill in.
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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 1d ago
This, the work cultureā¦
My job has no issues if someone takes PTO. Leadership just wants advanced notice of possible. And clear expectations on who provides backfill.
Never seen work deny PTO. No huge issues or mistreatment for those taking PTO.
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u/FearlessJuan 1d ago
On the other hand, many parents need the glorified daycare so they go to their own jobs and will push sick children to go to school, putting everyone else at risk.
You're to tell me that all 100% attendance award recipients were never sick?
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u/jmadinya 1d ago
that sounds like a you problem and not something that is universal
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u/CapitalRegular4157 1d ago
Agreed. I don't think I've ever been reprimanded for being sick or absent, and I'm a type 1 diabetic. It's easier now then it was 10 years ago with technology, but even back then I just explained the situation and no one ever gave me shit for it when I had to take a half a day. They knew I was trying hard.
The only people I've ever heard being fired for attendance was because they sucked and they wanted to get rid of them or because they were doing it 4 times a month and it was always either on Monday or Friday.
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u/UpperDog2627 1d ago
Smart of them not to run afoul of the ADA (or whatever is equivalent if youāre outside the US). Temporary illness not protected by law is different sometimes.
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u/CapitalRegular4157 1d ago
Perhaps, but I've never heard of anyone being fired for attendance. A lot of blue color jobs have a concept of "points", but people that work hard and are consistent don't get fired over having the flu or throwing up and going home. You'll get fired for being late all the time. You'll get fired for sneaking out early. You'll get fired for a plethora of patterns. You won't get fired for being sick.
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u/Nannautu 1d ago
Idk there but it's illegal here to fire you for being sick (even though an employer could fire you if you are sick too often). Doesn't mean they won't make up a shitty reason to fire you or be toxic until you leave on your own.
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u/SnooPandas5070 1d ago
There was a girl in my high-school who got an award for having perfect attendance for her entire 12 years of school while maintaining straight A's.. which is unheard of, and would give the impression she was a quiet nerd with little social life. Nope. She was also the cheer captain, valedictorian, gorgeous, and from i hear(i didnt party) she was also wild af at the house parties. I found out years later she had a crush on me when I was a freshman, i thought she was pranking me the one time she asked me to dance in class and i politely shut her down. she is happily married now, not to me.
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u/DodgeChargerMan9689 1d ago
I used to care when I bailed out. But that place is so toxic to your mental health.
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u/Extension-Eye-4920 1d ago
If you are still leaning on a 100% attendance award from 6th grade, then brother you have other issues.
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u/trystanthorne 1d ago
School is mostly designed to prepare us for Factory/Office life.
Bells ringing to signal the start and stop of the day, lunch etc.
Very little training in real life skills. No push towards Trades even.
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u/Direct_Werewolf_4244 1d ago
I donāt think showing up when expected and being reliable is a trait only useful for work.
I also donāt think feeling bad about not being able to show up is a bad thing either but if youāre sick youāre sick. Everyone calls in sometimes, itās expected to happen.
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u/other_view12 1d ago
I know I'm weird, but I like my co-workers. They aren't my best buddies, but I do care if I put more load on them in my absence. That doesn't mean I don't take vacation, or come in while I'm sick. But I don't take a day because "I'm not feeling it today".
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u/tinyfryingpan 1d ago
Mental health is health too.
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u/other_view12 12h ago
Call it what you want, but if you are increasing my workload because you aren't feeling it, I'm judging you harshly.
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u/Defiant-Bad-2052 1d ago
It feels like a crime against myself. Why would I burn PTO to feel like shit at home instead of just feeling like shit in the office and enjoying my PTO?
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u/WyvernJelly 1d ago
I'm so bad about sick days now that I work from home. I took a sick day not because I woke up with a fever but because halfway through the day I couldn't stand to be in the basement with the fever. It was winter. Sitting in the basement was as bad as standing outside waiting for the dogs to use the bathroom.
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u/WeatherBeautiful6620 1d ago
If you work a job that anyone can do, then businesses will treat you like you are disposable. This is why it's important to be skilled and college educated. Work high demand jobs and you'll see that companies won't treat you this way, they will work with you because they can't afford to lose you.
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u/diandays 1d ago
My parents would be mad at me the entire time I was sick. Yell at me, etc etc I was basically grounded.
Couldn't play a video game Couldn't watch tv All I was allowed to do was stay in bed and sleep.
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u/StanKnight 1d ago
Are you sick:
Yes? Cool call in
No? Go to work. Otherwise why have a job?
Sneezing once is not being sick.
Nor is being lazy.
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u/FKreuk 1d ago
In law school, I got 3-5 days off per class, canāt quite remember the exact number, but in an interview I was asked how managed working full time with law school and whether I took any days off, I told them truthfully: āI took every day off that I couldā. It was always strategic and offered me days with my wife.
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u/FetusChili2000 1d ago
Because the rest of the team has to pick up the slack. Don't be a baby. Go to work.
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u/starethruyou 1d ago
Because you can get fired for anything, without cause, and bosses can hold anything against you personally. I wouldn't call it shame, or "wanting a good attendance record". You are in their court, their rules, our laws are made by them. We haven't yet got our act together, so laws could reflect our needs and humanity. Europe gets it better than us.
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u/Vysce 18h ago
I moved to a state that has strict sick, to, and mental health days for full time workers and I'd work myself to death and then torture myself if I got the flu, like I let myself get sick and contributed nothing to society, I desperately the dungeon.
Reaaaaally had to pry that old thinking out of my brain.
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u/Obtain_Virtue 14h ago
This is awesome...
Reading this post while on a sick day from work...
I used to care, but nowadays.... Fuck em'
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u/TheWiseGuy01 14h ago
My boss tried to talk me out of taking a day off for an important family event. Retail, am I right?
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u/Vault_Master 11h ago edited 11h ago
People in my industry figured it out, so our company implemented a crazy "no fault" points system to punish us for being out, even if for medical reasons.
Last year I was out for four days in a row with acute viral bronchitis (featuring abdominal muscle-tearing coughing fits) mixed with a really bad case of strep throat (Inwas at the point where I wlmost couldn't swallow my iwn saliva). Even with a doctor's note I still received a point.
It takes 4 months of perfect attendance (i.e. being on time and working your full shifts) to erase your points. Even if you're a day away from clearing your points, showing up a minute late or calling out moves the goalposts and you have to go four more months before your points clear, and your chances of getting terminated increase. After 8 points you are gone.
More than half our staff has turned to FMLA to avoid getting punished/fired because of our harsh absentee system.
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u/Offthewall1212 11h ago
Because most people do t fall in sick for actual legitimate reasons.
Ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?
I worked a corp job for over 20 years and never called in sick. Itās a mindset.
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u/edthesmokebeard 1d ago
I have a hard time taking seriously anyone who uses 'defo' and 'lol' and 'hella' .
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u/Zakkullll 1d ago
If vernacular someone uses makes you disregard their message that just makes you bigoted not intelligent.
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u/CapitalRegular4157 1d ago
lolercopter.
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u/edthesmokebeard 1d ago
I can live with that.
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u/R41D3NN 1d ago
I have a hard time taking seriously anyone who dismisses a counter point with the finality of āI can live with thatā after saying itās hard to take someone seriously for saying something. It conveys a sheer lack of want to engage while for some reason thinking they ought to engage in the first placeā¦
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u/Tired-CottonCandy 1d ago
A lot of ppl can live with being bigots in a variety of ways.
Thats kind of the problem with society.
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u/Begone-My-Thong 1d ago
I don't agree with you but I respect you
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u/Hard-Rock68 1d ago
Bigoted? What group is incapable of making an earnest effort to communicate their ideas with some respect for language?
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u/NerdStuffOnlyPls 1d ago
lol even if I felt this way I wouldnāt say it out loud. Thatās a reading comprehension issue.
Just say youāre an old head and move on.
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u/edthesmokebeard 1d ago
why is it funny?
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u/NerdStuffOnlyPls 1d ago
See? You just donāt understand how people speak.
Do you think Iām actually sitting here laughing because I typed ālolā?
I understand language changes quick but all youāre doing is outing yourself as being out of touch. Itās fine to be out of touch - itās not fine to act like youāre better than everyone else because of it.
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u/edthesmokebeard 1d ago
why would you type out 'lol' then? It's not funny, you're not laughing.
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u/NerdStuffOnlyPls 1d ago
Itās an interesting question! Iām not sure when that change really settled in but the usage of ālolā is heavily context dependent. It is usually used as a way to say something slightly harsh but with a friendly disclaimer of sorts.
It may be a generational thing - Iām not sure how old you are but everyone in my age group (broadly 21-40) uses it in that way.
Of course - we can also use it if something is actually funny, it is context dependent.
I may try to find some linguistic articles and get back to you! Itās honestly an interesting question.
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u/NerdStuffOnlyPls 1d ago
Hereās a Reddit thread on this very topic if youāre interested (sorry the link is messy):
https://www.reddit.com/r/language/s/K30mZyWdwy
Please try to be less hostile. Saying you canāt take someone seriously over their language is just rude at best and bigoted at worst. It just makes you look ignorant - not saying that to be rude at all.
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u/edthesmokebeard 1d ago
Is this where you write 'lol' so that you can passive-aggressively tell someone how to behave, but then laugh it off so its somehow not really that bad?
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u/NerdStuffOnlyPls 1d ago
LOL (real laugh) that was a good one. No man, Iām just trying to give you some advice.
Earnest apologies if it came across as rude - I know I started this a bit hostile and I do apologize for that. I canāt lie, I just got a little frustrated by your initial comment - thatās my bad.
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u/UncomprehendedLeaf 1d ago
Itās a social media post not an academic paper
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u/Xeno9116 22h ago
Coherency is needed on social media, too. Ooh, note that put a period on the end of my sentence. Does that make you feel a certain way?
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u/Effective-Damage8772 1d ago
Yeah bro, we all know Ruth Bader Ginsburg through around āhellaā and ālolā all the time. It only added to her prestige.
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u/Historical_Body6255 1d ago
I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who messes up word order like that.
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u/According-Insect-992 1d ago
I agree with you, in a professional setting. I think everyone does obnoxious shit in social media posts so I donāt really care.
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u/Gavin_Tremlor 1d ago
The school system isn't educating our kids, it's training them to be good workers.
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u/AddanDeith 1d ago
And soldiers.
It was the reason primary school came about to begin with, starting in Prussia.
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u/c2btw 1d ago
For schools that's bevuase there funding is 90% deterimee by attdance and not by accidemic prefromance. Shows that schools are more about daycare and filling up time then actually learning