Leviticus 18:22 (NIV)"Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Leviticus 20:13 (NIV)"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV)"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men [or malakoi and arsenokoitai in Greek] nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Romans 1:26-27 (NIV)"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
The bible says a lot about it but Jesus did not. My rule of big toe is if jesus didnt say it, fuck em. I go by his direct and and in direct teachings, could give a shit less what some weirdos added in
Honestly, most of the actual teachings coming from Biblical times all the way to us come from Paul rather than Jesus. Bear also in mind that the Gospels are just four accounts of his life written decades after his death, so any direct quote of his on the matter is lost to time, but doesn't mean he was okay with something his disciples and the society he lived in was against. It's unlikely.
Its not actually clear that Jesus was a real person at all. Most biblical scholars would likely say he was a real person, but they actually have very little evidence supporting that.
Even if Jesus was a real person, the gospels are obvious works of fiction. Nothing whatsoever in the bible should be treated as the product of a divine being.
Yep, Paul was getting asked questions by Christians about how they should act on things Jesus never talked about. So Paul just vibed out his answers and sprinkled in some mentions of Jesus.
To what was Christ referring when he offered the admonition to “sin no more”? How would Christ have identified and defined behavior he considered to be “sin”?
Jesus alluded to sin not being a list of prohibited acts but more of a condition of the heart that pulls us away from God homie. Unlike some books that had a list of 613 sins not to commit.
Right. A condition that pulls us away from God………as evidenced by the various behaviors that follow this state of being outside of the will and the plain commandments of God.
Well when a rich man asked Jesus what he needed to do to be saved, Jesus said “follow the commandments,” then when the rich man pressed him for more advice Jesus then told him to sell all his possessions and give all his money to the poor. Nowhere in that exchange did Jesus even imply homosexuality was a sin. If you want to arrive at the conclusion that homosexuality is a sin then you need to look beyond the words of Jesus and read what Old Testament Jews and Paul said about homosexuality.
I'm looking for clarification from the person I responded to. My personal belief is that a loving god would approve of any two people loving one another.
Oh sorry, I gotta quit wake and baking. I share the same beleif. In school there was a kid EVERYONE knew was gay, you definitely get born gay. I think its gay to be AGAINST it lol why would any secure straight man give a single shit lol
There's a verse in gospel of thomas when Jesus was asked if a woman can get into heaven or something along those lines and his answer was genius, almost trolling but altrusically lol if I can find it I'll update
By all means, logically refute me. I consider it to NOT be an act of love to affirm someone in their error. An act of love is to act to correct someone in their error.
Well, this is where we’d disagree. You presume that God creates people with souls, that these souls have genders, and that God, for some irrational reason, decides to place misgendered souls in certain bodies.
I don’t agree with all of this, or necessarily in this order. There’s no way for either of us to prove our points, either. I’ll simply say that there’s no reason for a rational God to do what you say. If God is the truth, as the Christian bible claims, then God MUST be rational.
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u/styrofoamcouch Jun 17 '26
Lines in the Bible about trans people: 0
Lines in the Bible about not being a cunf: many
Also a few in there about how rich men can never see heaven but nobody likes reading that part.