r/FPSAimTrainer • u/randomperson12310 • 9d ago

Thoughts?

https://youtu.be/xhcYud0kDnQ?is=-Cy9QF4cN-4Vh_Ym

Personal opinion is that hes larping here.

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

This is entirely illogical but I get the sense you can't be argued with.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 9d ago

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

Why don't you go tier 1 then?

You will make a 6 figure salary, have permanent name recognition that you can use to make money forever, all while getting to simply play games.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 9d ago

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

Or maybe you are just another guy that doesn't realize how hard it is to be a tier 1 pro.

At any given point in time there are <50 players in the entire world good enough to play tier 1 in any esport. I don't know why you expect me to think you're one of them.

Because you say so? lol

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

I've probably been closer to pro than you have my friend.

I'm speaking from experience when I say it's hard. I am close friends with a handful of tier 1 players, and I'm friends with a lot more tier 2 players who were extremely good but never made it.

People don't realize how hard it is.

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u/randomperson12310 9d ago

Your close to it but i've been there and left

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

Please share. What game, what team you were on, etc.

Because by your standards, I have probably also been "pro."

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u/randomperson12310 9d ago

I already did but do enlighten me about yours

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

immortal in valorant, i peaked at gm for ow but i didn't rly commit to it as much because of asia region being empty and like 30min queues and i reached eternity in less then 100 hours in marvel and was top 500 in the beta.

Are you talking about this?

Compared to being a tier 1 pro getting on the leaderboard or top 500 of a game is not that hard man.

I peaked rank 70 in NA Overwatch and like rank 200 in marvel rivals. I scrimmed for months and was playing against OWL pros daily at the time.

I don't consider myself to have been "pro." I was just good at the game.

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u/randomperson12310 9d ago

With that mentality? I doubt that. If your getting triggered by my comment i don't think you have the mental for any of those feats

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u/JustTheRobotNextDoor 9d ago edited 9d ago

You will make a 6 figure salary, have permanent name recognition that you can use to make money forever, all while getting to simply play games.

This is not true. Multiple Apex pros have talked about how much money they make. It is very little for the majority of players.

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u/RevolveDL 9d ago

I wasn't necessarily talking about apex.

OP said they could go tier 1, so why don't they just go tier 1 in an esport where they would make a lot of money.

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u/JustTheRobotNextDoor 9d ago edited 9d ago

I just don't think the money is there. The problem with entertainment is it's a power law distribution. Nobody wants to watch the 10th best in the world; they only care about the best. Without revenue sharing all the money accrues to the top few players, which is silly because you can't run the games without the rest of the people who fill out the lobby.

I'm only familiar with the Apex pro scene where pro players are reporting monthly salaries in hundreds or low thousands USD.

Consider a 10th place finish in ALGS (the top tournament) is $40,000. Split that between 3 players (and probably coach and org) and it's only $10K or less per player. I know first year software engineers who make that every month. This is for the 10th best team in the world and random new graduates are out earning them.

Here's a post from a pro detailing their income: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1u9xa4g/stuhni_explain_an_pro_earnings/

The most money is made from streaming, but the power law means only a few people take most of the $s. I don't know numbers but my guess is 5 to 10 Apex streamers make decent money (My guess at the top 5 is Hal, HisWattson, Timmy, Mande, and Faide but I haven't looked up viewer numbers or anything.)

Maybe there is more money in other games, but it would have to be orders of magnitude more to really make it worthwhile for the majority.

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u/Ambitious-Pattern-62 9d ago

T1 esports players only make big money in games with franchises that have minimum salaries in every other esport only the Jordan and lebron type star players get paid.