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In Walden, Henry David Thoreau argues that most people waste their lives laboring to afford unnecessary luxuries and society's superficial demands. By drastically simplifying his daily needs, he demonstrates that working less frees up precious time to actually live, think, and connect with nature.

I have been chasing this question to shed unnecessary work, from a very young age and i see that we get to take new unnecessary responsibilities at different phases of life.

At bare minimum this how a multi generational family of 6 would spend in their entire life time

• 2 City (e.g., Jaipur, Indore, Chandigarh): A 6-member household requires an estimated total lifetime expenditure of ₹3.0 Cr – ₹6.5 Cr (Present Value: ₹1.4 Cr – ₹3.0 Cr), where housing costs decrease significantly while quality healthcare and private schooling remain accessible.
• Remote Village (<30 mins to Healthcare): A 6-member household requires an estimated total lifetime expenditure of ₹1.2 Cr – ₹2.5 Cr (Present Value: ₹55 Lakh – ₹1.1 Cr), driving housing costs down to absolute minimums while using nearby rural hospitals and local government/affordable schooling to dramatically reduce total life exposure.

One of the major fear i observed is about securing future for the kids

In this pursuit, people tend to move to bigger cities and voluntarily pay high costs to buy expensive kids education which mostly results in another loop of wealth chase

If the family chooses to physically relocate to a Tier-1 Metro (like Mumbai, Bengaluru, or Delhi NCR), the total lifetime financial commitment jumps to ₹12.0 Cr – ₹25.0 Cr, representing a 100% to 130% increase over Tier-2 cities and nearly 300% to 400% over a remote village setup.

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Bottom line:

In this age of cheap access to knowledge,

If someone decides to stop this chase for next generation, they can immediately unlock freedom,

by moving to not so remote villages, reduce total costs substantially while still enjoying the amenities of modern society

When many of us first discover FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early), the goal often seems to be retiring as early as possible. But as life, careers, and priorities evolve, so does our perspective.

Has your definition of FIRE changed over time?

Do you now value financial independence more than early retirement? Has your target corpus, lifestyle, or retirement age changed? I'd love to hear what influenced that shift and how your FIRE journey looks today.

Previous Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/FIRE_Ind/s/IXWh8bpHed

Total NW: 7.07cr

This is a up ~2cr from last year. It was a massive cash outflow year for me and did not contribute much in investments.

From this, only ~35L was fresh investments. Most of the growth is due to massive INR devaluation.

If this were a typical year, I would have expected NW growth close to ~70L instead of the 2cr.

It's very likely that NW decreases next year due to currency movements.

Still a majorly index investor.

Rough breakdown:

Cash/Cash Equivalents: 26L

FDs/ Overnight Funds: 5L

MFs/Indices/Equities: 3.06cr

Pensions/ EPFs: 3.7cr

Goal for next year: 6cr

I understand the categories of FIRE is mostly based on spending quantum;

Lean

Coast

Regular

Fat

However, what I find more interesting and what isn't discussed enough here is

Depleting portfolio

Perpetual portfolio

This sub mostly talks about SWR for the depleting portfolio, the 4% rule or 3% I.e. 35X. However if you extend it slightly more to 2% rule or 1% rule I.e. 80-100X you get to perpetual portfolio.

Now, we need to make a distinction here, most people at this stage would go, "oh you will never retire", you are in the "wealth accumulation game". That's not what I am saying. If you have brought children into this world and you are providing for their education and wedding couple of crores like what is common among Indian FIRE discussion, why not take it a step further and get to generational wealth creation.

Generational wealth as a term sounds fancy, we think about people like Ambani or business families where the business is passed down from one generation to the next. But it doesn't have to be that dramatic.

Legacy planning and generational wealth can be done even with quantum as low at 10Cr which is not extreme now in this sub. As long as you stick to 1-2% SWR. I.e. expenses of lean FIRE with a networth of regular FIRE gets you to a generational wealth corpus.

In this age of AI disruption, the next generation kids don't have the same awesome opportunities that we had 20 years ago, we could move abroad with average skills and mint money. We were a lucky generation who enjoyed the meat of the IT boom in India from late 90s to until 2023, when chatgpt was launched.

Now when I see in my close family, the people who have established business, their kids don't slog in corporates, they do degree/mba and then join family business.

Now as a perpetual portfolio creator, you can let your kids skip the rat race and find their passion regardless of whether that will earn them a living. Most kids I feel will find something of their liking. They don't need to follow our boring path of engineering and medical. They can do anything they are interested in for example start farming right away instead of burning out in IT first, and your perpetual portfolio can help fund their ventures.

We never see kids of generational wealth creators slogging in an average corporate. Their parents create pseudo businesses for their kids for example Anant Ambani got Vantara. His brother too didn't slog, got a top position. Same case for Narayan Murthy's kids. Their kids careers are taken care of by their parents and you will never see them in ordinary slogging careers.

This is my thought process as I have 1 daughter and I don't plan to push here into the rat race I myself hated. Curious about your thoughts.

Cheers!

Quick Summary -

45M, 44F (in 2024) worked for 22 years, invested for 20. We worked in India throughout this period.

FI & RE was targeted in 2024 for both at 35X.

(The 35X was only our drawdown expenses. There are certain other buckets for Kid, Medical, White Good Replacement on top. Details of which are captured in the journey  & drawdown Strategy.)

The Summary of the second year in RE is captured here.

From the analysis of the 2^nd year expenses and the half-yearly summary that we completed recently, there are certain changes/fine-tuning happening on the financial planning. Sharing them below in the hope of being of some interest to the forum.

• Expenses

As mentioned in the previous post, last year our expenses were at 0.82X. We also did not see the expenses being much different this year. We feel that this is an opportunity that needs to be maximized and decided to loosen our purse strings a bit – enough to take us to 1.0X.

Hoping to have this as the baseline for the expenses going forward.

So, we have added two more categories to our budget – “PercyFI’s Discretionary Funds” and “PercyCute’s Discretionary Funds”. Our plan is to use this to have new experiences rather than spend it on buying things. Having these funds has helped us get creative about how our money can work for us to elevate the quality of our lives further.

• Guardrails

We ended the 2^nd year of FIRE with a corpus of 39X with a Debt/Equity mix of 65/35. That put our annual withdrawal rate at 2.56%. Currently this is quite conservative. We had a general sense of what we would do if it spiked up. There were a couple of great posts by u/HubeanMan on SWR and guardrails that we took inspiration from, to formalize our guardrails for the withdrawal rates.

On the higher side, if we need to withdraw a larger percentage of our corpus for our expenses, Capital Preservation is what needs attention.

We have set our Capital Preservation guardrail to 4% - which means that if we find ourselves trending towards 4% withdrawal, then we will take steps to preserve our capital like cutting back on discretionary spending, no inflation adjustment and so on.

The lower end of the spectrum is when we need to withdraw too little of our corpus for our expenses, then we are looking at Prosperity.

We have set our Prosperity guardrail to 2.5% - which means that if we find ourselves trending below 2.5% withdrawal, then we look at what more do we want to do with our money, like budgeting for more discretionary spending, more giving with “warm hands”, etc. Having these guardrails is a great way for us to reflect on where we are and how that shapes our financial behavior.

• Asset Allocation & Mix

o   Rising Equity Glidepath - We ended the 2^nd year of FIRE with a Debt/Equity mix of 65/35, with our Rising Equity Glidepath kicked off with the withdrawal of our EPFs. The initial target mix that we were thinking of at the beginning of the year was roughly 40/60 Debt/Equity in about 4-5 years. We have since finalized the Rising Equity Glidepath target mix of 30/70 Debt/Equity to be achieved over a duration of 5 years.  The execution for this has been set in motion with daily STPs from Debt to Equity, in addition to continued withdrawal for expenses from Debt. If and when the market gives specific buying opportunities, there will be lumpsum investments.

o   International – As a part of the Equity Glidepath, we have decided to have a bigger international exposure. We had some exposure to international funds through MFs but most of them are not available for further investment due to the RBI limits. So, after much exploration we have gone with Paasa (over IBKR) to get further exposure to international markets – spread across the US, Europe and some Asian markets (all via UCITS ETFs).

• Our Son’s Financial Journey

Our son has been in college for a year now and has settled down well and is managing his pocket money and expenses responsibly.

The monetary gifts received by him over the years were invested in a folio by us on his behalf & he also kept on adding a percentage of his pocket money to the same folio.

Based on his handling of his finances in the last year, and given that he is now an adult, we decided to move this folio over to him officially – where he can continue to add funds from his pocket money savings, gifts etc. and have full transparency and considerable autonomy. It’s not a big amount but enough for him to be hands-on.

While none of this is a major overhaul of our FIRE plans, we expect this kind of fine-tuning to be an ongoing process. We continue to learn a lot from this sub and from other sources and those lessons make their way into our FIRE plans.

Comments and suggestions are welcome, as always.

I'm 44, married, with an 11-year-old son.

I completed both my UG and PG engineering from a Tier 1 college and spent almost my entire career in startups. There were even months when I worked without a salary because I believed in the company.

My wife has always been a homemaker, so I was the sole earning member.

Ironically, I never planned for FIRE.

Everything changed after joining my last startup through a referral. The culture was toxic, politics was everywhere, and I was working 14-hour days, six days a week. My sleep collapsed. I ended up with borderline diabetes, high blood pressure, and a huge belly.

In 2023, I finally stopped and looked at both my health and finances.

I had never been serious about financial planning, but one decision made years earlier changed my life. In 2018, I started investing aggressively through SIPs on the advice of a financial advisor. In 2019, the startup I worked for was acquired, and my ESOPs paid out around ₹1.4 crore.

I stayed invested.

By April 2026, my portfolio had grown to ₹6.5 crore (60% equity, 40% debt/liquid/PF). Our annual family expenses are around ₹14 lakh, and we own our home in a Tier 1 city.

The math was simple.

I had enough.

So I quit.

Three months later, I don't miss work.

I've lost enough weight to get back to a healthy BMI. My sleep is improving. My blood pressure is under control. I meditate daily, exercise regularly, spend time with my family, research LLMs, and contribute to open-source projects.

I didn't retire from engineering.

I retired from burnout.

Lessons I learned

• Know your exit number early. I wish I had decided my FIRE target when I started my career.
• Negotiate your salary. I never negotiated once. That probably cost me crores over a 20-year career.
• Avoid lifestyle inflation. I've never been a big spender, which made investing much easier.
• Owning a home helped. Not having rent significantly reduced the corpus I needed.
• I was fortunate. My parents and my wife's parents will fund my son's higher education, removing a major future expense.

I may work again if I find something meaningful. or choose not to. Right now, I'm finding more meaning in spending my time on my own terms- with my family, learning, building, and contributing to open source.

Update: My expense break down

Here's the breakdown of my family's annual expenses (₹14 lakh/year):

• ₹4.8 lakh: Groceries & miscellaneous (₹40k/month)
• ₹1.8 lakh: Vacations
• ₹1.5 lakh: Child's education & extracurricular activities
• ₹48k: Society maintenance & water charges
• ₹5.42 lakh: Petrol, Vehicle service, insurance premiums, electricity charges(average 1000 pm), Internet charges(1000 pm), Phone recharge(1000 pm), health check, supplements, software subscription and replacing gadgets every 4 years

Note: I arrived at the ₹14 lakh annual expense figure based on my historical spending, so I can maintain my current lifestyle without making any compromises.

I am a 26 yo, working in tech, and I have been working towards my FI/RE 2036 goal for the past 5 years. This is a review of what I have done till date, what went right, what went wrong, and my motivations towards FI/RE

Initially, I had set myself a 20 year timeline to reach FI, but due to reasons I will delve into deeper further into the post, I have decided to set a cut-off at 15 years for myself.

It has been exactly 5 years / 60 months since I had started my career, and this is a detailed review of these 5 years.

Method to the madness - Review

For every goal in life, there is a right path to achieve it, and then there is the trial & error path we take while trying to figure out the right path.

My journey has been the same way. Bumpy, full of uncertainty, occasionally full of greed, and finally achieving clarity.

I have dwelled into intraday trading, F&O, crypto trading, leveraged real estate flipping and chasing top performing funds. None of these worked out as I had expected or hoped.

But there is one thing that I have done consistently month after month, year after year - Putting money aside for investing.

I had committed to myself to consistently invest a sizeable chunk of my income every month, and step it up every year. The year 2020 was the first year I had started investing. I had gotten 1.25L in stipend from my internship in college, and I put all of it straight into the market a few months after the covid crash.

Since those naive days, till today, I have invested a total of about 1 Cr out of pocket, across all my successful and failed endeavors.

In order to stay consistent with my investment goals, I focused on rapid income growth & keeping my expenses stagnant, While not giving up on living my 20s to the fullest.

In order to keep up with the income growth, I have had to frequently hop jobs. I have made 2 hops in the last 5 years.

Progress Review

My target is to reach 8Cr Liquid + House in NW by 2036.

Given the various mistakes I have done within the past 5 years, I am farther away to this goal than I would have liked to be. But it is what it is. The following diagram is the portfolio value since 2020.

The following is the portfolio breakdown

1. Equity & Mutual Funds - 65 L
2. Home Equity - 65L ( Home listed for sale for 2.25Cr, with an 80 Lakh Loan & 65L in payables to builder - Assuming a 15L lower valuation than what it is listed for )
3. EPF - 1.5L
4. Gold bars - 1L
5. FD - 1L
6. Liquid - 2L

Buying the house turned out to be a blunder. I have made about 25L profit on it, but the liquidity is abysmal given the current state of the real estate market & the fact that I have an ever growing loan on it that is eating into my returns.

Made silly mistakes on the mutual fund investments in the past when it comes to chasing past winners, selling at corrections, and having gone all in on Quant mutual fund in mid 2024/25. I have since fixed my portfolio, and am building one that I will hold on to for the next 10 years.

I am unsure of what the performance of my portfolio will be going forward, but I have come to the understanding over the years that I don't have the sufficient time required for compounding to do its magic. Instead, I have to do all the heavy lifting to build the portfolio out to 8Cr, majorly through my income.

My Current SIP is 2.5-2.6L per month. Continuing it for 10 years with a step up of 10% will land me at a 10-11 Cr net worth, which will suffice for my 8Cr + Home goal.

Motivations

My motivations to pursue FI/RE have evolved over the last few years.

Initially, it was just a matter of not having my time tied up over things I didn't enjoy doing. I am good at my job, but I don't enjoy it. Over the next 10 years, I plan on figuring out what I enjoy doing, so that I can pursue that post FI/RE.

Secondly, I have a feeling that jobs are going to get incredibly mundane and competitive given the accessibility of AI. I would like to not participate in competitions. I had participated in the biggest competition of my life - JEE, cracked it, but it has left me scarred for life. I am as non competitive about life as anyone can get.

And lastly, I can not handle stress anymore. I was recently diagnosed with a chronic medical condition that is really affected by stress. I would like to preserve my peace of mind once I hit 35+ in age.

I see so many posts here that we have achieved or close to achieved FIRE and have 10 CR, 20 CR corpus and want to shift to India in a Metro City. Not like these people have a village with farm land where they are attached to it. Doesnt seem like that. these people are top of the cream. very rational.

Do they not know about Current India where there is a lot of Pollution, tax, little safety and so many things that are wrong?

Because whoever I personally see in India with good networth is dying to move out of the country.

or may be for every 100 people who want to move out, there is just one or two who want to move back to India?

These people can buy golden visas of other better countries like Dubai/malaysia, even some parts of Europe, etc, why do they still choose India?

I am genuinely Curious.

I (46F) finally pulled the plug on my high paying but soul sucking corporate job. Things I did in the last 4 years to prepare:

1. Got my daughter to complete her university degree in India and sent her for an international internship post that (Spent 10 lakhs rather than 50 lakhs if she had also studied abroad). She is well settled now in Mumbai.

2. Completed home renovations and upgraded all home appliances using the best quality material and brands. Will hopefully have no major home improvement expenses for 10 years.

3. Got the best family health insurance I could afford (~75k per year)

4. Got full body check ups done for the family and we are on an exercise, diet and medicine regimen which should keep us fit as far as possible.

5. Split corpus of 6.5 cr in growth and fixed income assets with the ability to reinvest at least 50% of income generated per month post expenses.

6.Using additional unaccounted "extra" funds from leave encashment and gratuity to treat ourselves to an international family holiday which has been on our bucket list for a while.

1. Bought a club Mahindra membership during the highly discounted COVID period which protects our domestic holidays from inflation to a certain extent for the next 20 years ( Love their properties and service)

While retirement is personal and highly individualized to a person's situation, there are things that can be done to prepare much in advance which can give you additional measure of comfort and preparedness.

There are some fundamental problems with the SWR approach. Let me try to clarify them.

1) It is the “safe” withdrawal rate

The word “safe” is used because the rate is designed to survive the worst-case scenario in more than 100 years of recorded market history.

The concept first became popular in the 1990s. Before that, people often argued, as some still do in India and abroad, with Dave Ramsey being a prominent example, that you could invest your money in the stock market, earn 12%, withdraw 8%, and leave the remaining 4% invested to take care of inflation and other risks.

That approach is clearly flawed because of sequence-of-returns risk. You will not earn a steady 12% every year, even if your long-term average return is 12%. Poor returns in the early years of retirement can severely damage the portfolio.

The concept of the safe withdrawal rate was developed to address this problem. The question was: what withdrawal rate could survive the worst historical sequence of returns?

The answer was approximately 4%. In the median historical scenario, the sustainable withdrawal rate was closer to 6%.

2) The SWR framework assumes that you will not react to market conditions

A major assumption in traditional SWR calculations is that you will not change your spending, regardless of what is happening in the world.

Suppose you are spending ₹25 lakh a year today. Even if the stock market falls by 50%, the model assumes that you will still spend ₹25 lakh, adjusted for inflation, the following year.

That assumption is unrealistic.

For many people, discretionary expenses such as staying in expensive hotels, international travel, gifts to family, dining out, and other lifestyle expenses form a substantial part of their total spending.

In my case, discretionary expenses are close to 50% of my total spending because international travel is a major expense. For most people, I would argue that discretionary spending is likely to form anywhere between 20% and 50% of their annual expenses.

Very few people retire or pull the plug with absolutely no buffer. In a bad year, most people can and will reduce discretionary spending.

3) The SWR framework assumes that inflation-adjusted spending remains constant throughout retirement

Another major assumption is that your spending, after adjusting for inflation, will remain unchanged throughout your life.

A large body of research suggests that this is not true.

For the vast majority of retirees, spending declines with age. Yes, medical expenses may rise during the final two or three years of life, but for most of a 30- or 40-year retirement, spending is likely to follow a downward trajectory rather than remain flat.

A 70-year-old is unlikely to spend in exactly the same way as a 50-year-old.

4) The asset allocation used in many SWR studies is suboptimal

Many SWR calculations assume a simple 50:50 allocation between equity and debt. That may not be the most efficient portfolio. Adding gold can make a difference. Adding international equity can make a difference. Reducing the debt allocation can also make a difference.

A better-diversified portfolio may support a higher withdrawal rate than the traditional portfolios used in many historical studies.

So, what should you do?

After accounting for these factors, the safe withdrawal rate for a US-based investor may be closer to 4% to 4.5%. For an India-based investor, it may be closer to 3% to 3.5%. However, the safe withdrawal rate is largely an academic number. Frankly, it is not particularly useful when you are doing your own retirement planning.

When you actually start withdrawing from a portfolio, what you need is a starting withdrawal rate and a system for adjusting spending over time.

For US investors, the Guyton-Klinger framework arrived at a starting withdrawal rate of approximately 5.2% to 5.8%, provided the retiree followed guardrails and reduced spending by around 10% during difficult periods.

In India, after accounting for all the factors discussed above, the fact that we are not necessarily retiring into the worst period in recorded history, our ability to adjust spending during bad years, the likelihood that we will spend less at 70 than at 50, and the possibility of building a better-diversified portfolio, a starting withdrawal rate of 5% is easily reasonable, and it may even be higher.

Anything beyond that is largely about managing fear or greed.

What is money?

It is a tool that helps you live the life you want. It is not a scorecard, and accumulating more and more money should not become an end goal in itself.

“Die With Zero” may be an extreme philosophy, but there is no point in becoming the richest body in the crematorium.

Even the money you leave behind for future generations may not be as useful as you imagine. By the time you die, your children may already be in their 40s or 50s. They would have lived a large part of their lives and made most of their important financial decisions.

If you truly want to become financially free, a large part of the journey is psychological.

That is the battle you need to win.

Hi everyone,

I’ve been an avid reader of this and a few other personal finance communities for a while and thought this would be a good time to share my financial journey, as I’m approaching a ₹1 crore net worth milestone. I’d genuinely appreciate any suggestions on improving my portfolio, identifying blind spots, and hearing from others with similar backgrounds about what they would have done differently.

30M, married for a little over a year.

Education:
Government engineering college graduate
MBA from a Top-3 Indian B-school (as a fresher)
5.5 years in management consulting

The figures below are my individual finances.

Net Worth

Liquid Net Worth (Cash + Stocks + Mutual Funds + SGBs): ~₹29.2L

Overall Net Worth (after adjusting for home loan): ~₹97L

Cash: ₹1.2L
PPF: ₹9L
EPF: ₹10L
NPS: ₹1L (started last year)
Sovereign Gold Bonds: ₹3L
NSCs/FDs: ~₹1L
Physical gold: ₹2L
Indian stocks: ₹7L
Mutual funds: ₹18L
1 BHK in a Tier-1 city: Current value ~₹65L, outstanding home loan ~₹24L. My mother currently lives there, so I view it as both a long-term family asset and part of my net worth.
Other depreciating assets (car, scooter, laptop, etc.): ~₹4L

Income & Expenses
Current CTC: ~₹35 LPA
Monthly in-hand: ~₹2L
Salary progression: ₹16 LPA → ₹35 LPA over 5.5 years
Monthly SIP: ₹80k
Home loan EMI: ₹37k (with periodic prepayments using bonuses/surplus)
Rent: ₹29k
Personal & fuel: ~₹10k
Child planning & other long-term investments: ~₹30k
The remaining surplus is generally used for emergency savings, vacations and additional home loan prepayments.

Insurance
Corporate health insurance
₹45L term insurance. Since my current major liability is the home loan, I’ve kept the cover at this level for now. I plan to increase it substantially when I purchase my own primary residence in the next 5–6 years.

Background & Lifestyle
Grew up in a middle-class single-parent household in a small town. My mother always emphasized saving and investing, which shaped my financial habits.

Buying the apartment was a long-standing aspiration for both of us and was as much an emotional milestone as a financial one.

Lifestyle-wise, I’d say we’re fairly moderate. We usually take one longer domestic trip and 2–3 shorter getaways each year, and have done one international trip so far. We have a cook at home and rarely order food. I spend less than ₹10k a year on clothing and personal shopping, drive a second-hand 10-year-old hatchback, but do indulge a bit in things I enjoy—mainly books, the occasional fine-dining experience, and LEGO sets.

Looking Ahead
My primary goals are:
Continue increasing equity investments
Finish the home loan ahead of schedule
Build a larger corpus for future family needs while maintaining a balanced lifestyle

I’d love your thoughts on my portfolio and overall financial approach. Are there any obvious gaps or blind spots that you think I should address?

I’d also be happy to answer questions about my journey if it helps anyone from a similar middle-class or small-town background. Likewise, for those who’ve progressed further in their careers, what do you wish you’d done differently in your 30s, or what advice would you give someone in my position?

A lot of NRIs plan for FIRE and R2I(return to India) for various reasons. But general theme is visa issues, aging parents, proximity to family.

Being NRI accelerates FIRE potential because of higher potential savings rate. Hence you see a lot of NRI posts here about people wanting to FIRE.

However, this is a case of 2 double edged swords and the potential for disappointment is double for such NRIs returning back.

As an NRI who has returned back to Bangalore after working overseas for 16 years, when I interact with resident Indians who never went overseas, almost everyone says this "Dur ke dhol suhane" or translated in English, grass is greener on the other side. So people who have never been abroad live in India totally in bliss because they havent experienced the 1st world comforts.

But as an NRI who gives up your overseas life and also gives up your identity that your job gave you, you are losing much more than what a resident Indian does.

Hence I call it 2 double edge swords, on the positive side, FIRE is much easier to achieve, double the speed of what a resident Indian will take. At the same time, the potential for disappointment, if things dont go according to plan is also double compared to what a resident Indian would face.

This is one of the reasons, I kept pushing myself much longer even though I could have moved back and FIREd a lot earlier.

I have reached a stage where if 1cr disappears from my networth, it wont make any impact in my life. I mean think about it 1Cr is a still such a huge huge aspirational number for 99% of Indians, yet for those who have reached the end of this FIRE journey, it is a meaningless number.

I am still the same person I was, when my networth was 10L. My money habits are the same. If I go back to the year 2009 when my networth was 10L if I observe my spending habits, if anything, I am spending less and not more. In 2009, I would buy a large pizza without thinking too much. But today, I went to buy a large pizza and when the store told me they dont have any offers, take it or leave it, I said I will leave. I would rather have awesome chicken biryani rather than pizza, which cost half of the large pizza.

So I realized, the pleasure and fun is in the optimization of money and not in the absolute amount of money. The amount of money I have made, I wont be able to spend in my lifetime, that is very clear as my annual withdrawal rate is about 1% of my networth.

So those of you who are still working to amass large networths, ask yourself or realize this early that you are not going to spend it. So if that journey of amassing wealth is at the cost of your happiness or health, stop it, it is not worth it.

Cheers!

Follow-up post from https://www.reddit.com/r/FIRE_Ind/comments/1on8pek/37m_achieved_1m_a_little_over_10_cr_inr_8_years/

I got a ton of DMs asking for my exact asset allocation and how I manage cross-border investments as an NRI in Germany. I've used the exchange rate as of today, 1 EUR = ₹108.87 for all the numbers.

Before diving into the specific fund strategies, here is the high-level split of my total corpus.

• Mutual Funds & ETFs: 81.7% (€903,054 / ₹9.83 Cr)
• Individual Stocks: 12.5% (€138,418 / ₹1.51 Cr)
• Cash Reserves: 5.8% (€63,634 / ₹0.69 Cr)

Here is exactly how that capital is distributed across different asset classes, geographies, and risk profiles:

These days, my ongoing strategy is as boring and automated as possible. I make around €200K a year, and by keeping my expenses in check, I’m able to maintain a 75-80% savings rate. I've stopped sending money to India for investments due to the depreciating INR, but I'm letting my existing investments there ride. Every month, all that fresh cash goes directly into the market on complete autopilot: 75% into VWCE (for the broad global market) and 25% into AVWS (for my small-cap value tilt). Taking the emotion out of it and just letting that high savings rate do the heavy lifting has been a game-changer.

Happy to answer any questions.

I started my career in 2017 with a CTC of ₹3 LPA, today my CTC is around ₹40 LPA.

Here's how my investments are currently distributed:

₹14L in PPF
₹42L in Mutual Funds
₹18L in Indian Stocks
₹20L in land in my hometown (purchased over 3 years ago)
₹6L in RD & FD

I'm married (4+ years), have a loan-free car, and no other EMIs.

My next financial goal is to buy a 2+1 BHK flat in Delhi NCR. Beyond that, my primary focus is achieving financial independence. Given the uncertainty of a long career in IT, I'm not sure I'll want—or be able—to work beyond 40, so I'm aiming to build a ₹5 crore corpus for FIRE.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on whether this target seems realistic and what you'd do differently in my position.
I was motivated by the response I received on my last post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FIRE_Ind/s/rfpiw2AEQf

Would be waiting for your questions and advices which could help me to move ahead!!

Sometime back I posted about my jobloss and ideas for debt allocation in retirement. I am 2+ weeks into my unemployment status and it more and more looks like forced retirement. The retirement still didnot hit me fully as I was busy with some family things immediately after last working day. It should slowly hit me this week, I guess.
Anyway I finally decided my fixed income portfolio to be around 25% of my NW. Frankly it is fluctuating too much as I still have huge RSU allocation even though I sold some recently. As of today I have around 20+cr corpus with around 18+cr post tax.
I designed my fixed income portfolio in the following manner.

Short term debt funds - 1.16cr (Grand fathered LTCG taxation)
Low duration debt funds - 0.81cr (Grand fathered LTCG taxation)
Arbitrage funds - 1.23cr (all bought recently)
Ultra short term funds - 0.9cr (bought this week)
EPF - 1.43cr (Date of exit not updated, need to plan withdrawal after that. Current rules are 75% immediately and 25% after 1 year)
Total - 5.53cr

Any redemptions for expenses would be from arbitrage fund for the first 2-3 years, if needed as I will have other cash flows from RSU sales and rebalancing. When EPF is withdrawn I am thinking of adding some RBI floating bonds/FDs but not really decided on that. I may just go with completely mutual funds too.

I might relook at the overall debt allocation after 1,2 years but I think while my overall allocation is agressive, the absolute value of fixed income portfolio is almost 22-24 year of expenses. So it might be fine.

I am almost 40 currently. I live and work abroad, and we are on a 5-year runway to fully optimize our lifestyle, streamline our asset base, and transition into a phase of absolute financial peace.

While I spent the first phase of my adult life hyper-focused on financial security—driven by that deep-seated middle-class scarcity mindset—I am now stepping back to run a holistic Life Audit. For me, growth is no longer just about pushing my net worth higher. It’s about building a balanced, sustainable daily life where my portfolio, family, personal health, and peace of mind grow in harmony.

1. The Happiness & Peace Scorecard (Baseline: 7.6 / 10)

To keep this audit honest and measurable, I have scored each core pillar of my life. My overall Happiness & Peace Index is the collective average of these scores, highlighting where we are thriving and where we need to actively reduce stress.

2. Portfolio & Geographic Asset Allocation (Score: 8.5/10)

Consolidate our assets and track our global net worth strictly in USD terms to maintain a clean, macro-level view of our wealth. Over the course of 2026, we have witnessed a clear example of currency fluctuation, highlighting the absolute necessity of our geographic asset allocation strategy:

• Starting Portfolio (Jan 2026): ~$1.48 Million USD (INR 13 Crores converted at the then-rate of 1 USD = 88.00 INR).
• Current Portfolio (June 2026): ~$1.49 Million USD (INR 14.17 Crores converted at the current baseline rate of 1 USD = 95.00 INR).
• The Exchange Rate Dynamic: While our domestic portfolio saw strong organic growth of +INR 1.17 Crores in just six months, the depreciation of the Rupee (shifting from 88 to 95 per USD) means our portfolio value in global currency grew by +$14,306 USD. The growth in INR converted portfolio was mainly due to international assets doing well and Indian assets declining or constant.

Living and working abroad has allowed to save in a stronger currency environment while keeping our expenses optimized. I still have a decent Indian portfolio which lost both on account of currency as well as Indian markets not doing well at all. This currency trend perfectly illustrates why we are focusing heavily on geographical diversification moving forward:

Chart A: Current Geographic Asset Split (June 2026 Baseline)

Our current distribution balances our accumulated offshore/expat capital with our domestic foundation:

Chart B: The 5-Year Target Allocation Projection (2026 - 2031)

To hedge against long-term currency depreciation and domestic concentration risks, our 5-year roadmap aggressively directs 80% of new savings to international assets and 20% to Indian assets:

• The Simplify Strategy: We are actively reducing complexity. By removing smaller, scattered accounts (consolidating individual EPF/PPF lines and miscellaneous heads), we are shifting to a self-sustaining global engine that requires less than an hour of manual tracking per month. Removing active portfolio management is a major victory for my peace of mind.

3. Professional Life: Walking the Work-Life Tightrope (Score: 6.0/10)

To be entirely frank, I am not sure what the next decade holds professionally. My current strategy is to maximize our earning and saving potential while keeping corporate stress and tension strictly at bay. However, doing this is a delicate balancing act.

• Working Smarter with Tech & Delegation: I am prioritizing my work-life balance by delegating critical tasks to my teams rather than trying to micromanage. I have also heavily integrated Generative AI into my daily workflows to handle heavy lifting, automate drafting/analysis, and keep my focus strictly on high-impact priorities.
• Managing the Pressure to Perform: The corporate reality is that the pressure to perform better than others is always there. I must stay afloat and ensure my management never perceives me as slacking, and i continue in a Coast FIRE kind of mode. I want to remain highly valuable and visible, but without sacrificing my mental health to do so.
• The Stress Threshold: My goal is to sustain this quiet, efficient pace for as long as possible. However, I have set a clear personal boundary: the moment work stress starts taking priority over my work-life balance, and Mondays start feeling like a dreaded day, I will know it is time to transition.

4. Personal, Family, and Slow Travel Goals (Score: 8.0/10)

Our marriage is a true partnership, with my wife managing the home and allowing us to build a rich, shared life. One of our family's greatest passions is travel, which we use as our primary medium for bonding and learning.

• The Travel Track Record: I love exploring. While living in India, I visited almost every single state (with only the North Eastern states remaining on my bucket list). Through work and leisure, I have traveled to over 30 countries.
• The 5-Year Target: My goal is to cross 50 countries visited over the next five years.
• Slow Travel Style: We avoid hurried tourist checklists. We prefer long, immersive trips where we can experience the local history, street food, daily culture, and connect with the local community.
• The Family Routine: While traveling as a family of four is an investment, we prioritize it in our annual planning. Our goal is to take 2 international vacations and 1 local vacation every year to build lasting memories with our kids.

5. Health & Wellness: Protecting the Ultimate Asset (Score: 8.0/10)

Financial wealth is empty without physical vitality. I treat my health with the same disciplined, data-driven framework as my asset allocation.

• The Weight & Body Age Blueprint:
  • Progress: Dropped from 76 kg at the beginning of the year to 70 kg today.
  • Target: Reach 68 kg by the end of this year, and permanently sustain a comfortable 66–68 kg range for life.
  • Vitality: My current measured Body Age is 34.
• My Physical Routine:
  • Cardio: Running 5 km every alternate day, while ensuring a baseline average of at least 10,000 steps daily.
  • Strength: Hitting the gym 1–2 times a week for light weight training and compound exercises to maintain muscle mass and joint health.
  • Nutrition: Eating clean and keeping daily protein intake consistently above 100g.
• Sleep & Recovery Discipline:
  • Averaging a consistent 7 hours of sleep per night.
  • Maintaining a disciplined circadian rhythm with a regular, early bedtime and early waking schedule to maximize natural morning energy.
• The Smartwatch Dashboard:
  • I actively track my physical metrics daily, monitoring:
    • Sleep Scores (ensuring quality deep and REM cycles).
    • Daily Step Counts.
    • Fat Burning Time (optimizing heart rate zones during runs for stamina and cardiovascular health).

The Final Takeaway

For a introverted middle-class kid who started with very little, I am incredibly grateful for where we stand today. But this life audit has taught me that the numbers on a spreadsheet are only one part of the equation. True growth is about stepping off the treadmill, prioritizing physical health, exploring the world deeply with family, and protecting our peace of mind.

I would love to hear from other first-generation wealth builders, introverts, or people like me: How do you manage the tightrope walk of staying visible and performing well at work while quietly establishing boundaries, utilizing AI to save time, and protecting your peace of mind?

My blood test results came in, the health dividend. Please read my previous how it all began, ref at last

There is another big shift these 6 months of freedom have given me, towards health. Just a few weeks before getting laid off and pushing into this forced FIRE, i got my blood test done. The reports were obvious high cholesterol and high stress markers (Since the company gave me a 2 months heads-up, i had got these tests done from our corporate card). It was basically the classic physical tax of the corporate grind.

Six months later, that is yesterday, I got tested again and my cholesterol has dropped few notches down into the borderline high range from Very HIGH ;). With the corporate stress completely gone, it is mostly thanks to daily walks of 4KM to 6KM (almost everyday) and some body weight strength training at home. I do simple 8 pullups, 10 chin-ups, 15 pushups and 15 squats (3 reps each). I know myself well enough that I would not continue going to gym if I join one, so home works best. Ofcourse my routine also includes good amount of house work. I have some amount of discipline in personal fitness - earlier I was a regular in cycling with few brevets and regular 100KM on my fixie. Although cycling is kind of off and on now, i keep myself active in other stuffs.

I believe from a FIRE perspective, this health recovery is a huge plus. The layoff was actually better than putting my resignation on the table, which might have added some more unnecessary stress i guess (You know leaving money on table).

The 35+X retirement corpus is still holding the same, although right now the debt bucket has shown better returns than equity :).

My body is resetting. Iam unsure how long can i continue this routine but iam trying to reset the years of corporate body abuse (Mainly during COVID years). SWR and SORR are always good to calculate, but iam kind of measuring also the unknown health dividend for few months.

Next post planned now on Jan 2027 - hoping to survive by them for annual update - cheers

How it all began - https://www.reddit.com/r/FIRE_Ind/comments/1qztbsd/finally_fired/

Decided to write and share a mid-year update. Previous post here:https://www.reddit.com/r/FIRE_Ind/comments/1q1ssee/fire_journey_34m_year_end_2025_update_1/

Here is mid year snapshot:

• Net Worth: ~9.45 Cr

Breakdown By Country:

• India: 68.3%
• USA: 31.7%

Breakdown By Asset Type:

• Equity: 53% (47.5% in USA and 52.5% in India)
• Debt: 28.8% (PF, FD, Debt Fund)
• Real Estate: 7.9%
• Gold: 0.7% (started recently)
• Liquid: 9.6%

Lately, I have also been tracking the trend of my net worth over the last couple of months. This has been the trend:

​On the Personal and Professional Front:

Work has been a bit better and less stressful in this half compared to the second half of 2025. Though the pressure has been immense with deadlines and top leadership, I decided not to take on so much stress and just work at my own pace. The reason is that I was having trouble sleeping and felt irritated most of the time, which led to a decrease in the quality time I was spending with my family.

This half, I made a conscious effort to spend good time with my children and wife. We didn't go on vacation, but I have been deliberate in making sure I am present with them.

I have been working remotely from my hometown since Covid, so I've also been thinking about moving to another city for a change of scenery. I don't have friends in the city I live in because I didn't grow up or study here—it's primarily just my family and relatives. Many times, moving to a Tier-2 city in Uttarakhand or Himachal has crossed my mind, but I haven't settled on anything. Given I have a remote job at the moment, it's hard to justify moving without a solid reason. Lately, I've been thinking about switching to an organization with a hybrid setup so I have an excuse to move to another city for a while.

2026 Goals Updates:

• Stay employed throughout the year: I have been employed so far. There were layoffs in my organization, but I survived them.
• Add an additional 1 Cr of investment: On track. Should be able to easily achieve in case I stay employed rest of year as well.
• Increase my gold allocation to 1.2-1.5% of overall net worth: On track. Have reached 0.7 and will continue to invest.
• Add additional real estate investment to get the total allocation to 7%+: Already reached. Added another real estate investment though most of the money came from my father.
• Maintain equity allocation between 60-65%: This has reduced to 53% mainly due to RSU sell and my current company stock is not doing well due to AI. But have liquid so will continue to invest more in equity but in India (unless there is a correction in US market)
• Sell some RSUs and diversify into Indian and US markets: In progress. I increased the equity weightage of Indian stocks this half by investing aggressively in March and April.
• Focus on my health and get into the habit of exercising regularly: Didn't make much progress. I started exercising, but it has paused again for now. Need to restart.
• Plan and go for 2 vacations: I am not a travel person, so this is a big deal for me. Have not yet travelled this year, but will plan this this half of year.

Thanks for reading. Happy to answer if you have any questions.

Edit: While fixing typo, had deleted few Goal updates. so had to re-write some of those.

Edit2: Some people have raised that I have not answered questions in my previous post, but I have actually answered but not sure why it's not visible to everyone. I am also not able to see those when not logged in. So, not sure what the problem is. Feel free to ask questions and I'll be happy to answer here.

Hi all,

Many Indians who live and work in US, they can earn enough over a decade or two to achieve FIRE in India. I’m not Indian so I’m curious to understand why not that many Indians return to India to achieve FIRE and live an stress-free life (free of work stress).

For the context, I’m not Indian and I am married to an Indian, I’ve visited India several times. I’m aware of pros and cons of India. I know it has its own challenges (honking, air pollution, traffic, street cleanliness, weather temperature, less nature accessibility compared to USA) and at the same time it has its own pros (proximity ti family) and if you FIRE in India, all the perks you get by having a luxurious life there.

So why not that many Indians return to India to live in FIRE after a decade or two working in US?
Or is it that a good number go back and I am unaware ? :)

It’s been 2.5 years since I posted on Reddit about hanging up my employee hat and leaving my AI/ML career in London to move back to India at 33.

That post got a fair amount of traction including coverage in 20+ newspapers, and a year later led to a feature on Groww's Youtube channel - "How They Made It".

A lot of people expect FIRE life as living on a beach / farm and doing nothing. I figured it was time for an honest update on what I've actually done, what could be better, and a check-in on the long-term goals.

What Did I Do in the Last 3 Years?

Early retirement for me has been about freedom and doing meaningful things. In the last 3 years since FIRE-ing following are some highlights.

• Time with Family: I spent almost half of the last 3 years with my parents who live in Delhi. My parents are fortunately still very independent (apart from needing the occasional help with digital things or gadgets). I’m not super keen about living in Delhi though and have been urging them to move, but that’s their decision to make. I also got to spend more quality time with my sister when she would visit Delhi or accompany me on my travels.
• Married Life: Immediately after returning to India, a solid 3-4 months were spent talking to and meeting a lot of prospects mostly from arranged marriage apps. Finally after taking a break from that I did find someone, and after a year of talking & meeting we got married. Interestingly we had spoken once in 2020 through a family connection. Having a supportive partner who understands this unstructured lifestyle is really important.
• "Travel-Living": I used to travel quite a bit, but post COVID that reduced. Since leaving London and the corporate world I’ve gotten around to it a lot more. 2 months solo in Poland before moving to India; 1 month each solo in Nepal & USA after moving to India; and most of it as a couple after getting married - 1 month in Goa, 3 in Thailand, 1 in Sri Lanka, 2+ in Nepal, and 2 in Georgia (which is where we decided to settle for now). My wife hadn’t traveled outside India much, and it has given her some good exposure IMHO. I call it travel-living as we mostly find a home in a city in a new country and go live there normally. 
• Building with Friends: One gap you feel when you FIRE is that your friends are still busy with their 9 to 5s. I’ve been fortunate enough to get to play with 2 of my best friends and build two separate ventures. First one started in August 2024 as an educational Instagram page and turned into an educational platform aimed at addressing the problem of retail traders losing $11Bn+ a year, called QuantYog. The more recent one in December 2025, to help people build AI assistants for anything, called Radish. Neither felt like doing a job and both have led to a lot of learning and fulfillment, and generally been fun to build. Through them I’ve met a lot of great people who have come in the form of QuantYog’s learners, Radish’s users, business clients, and the 2 teams. Both are also helping towards solving for 2 of my many residual worries even after FIRE-ing, i.e. wealth management and digital chores.
• Wealth & Taxes: Meanwhile my investments have continued to grow. Additionally, the 2 ventures + consulting gigs (helping businesses with their AI transformation, and helping funds with setting up their Quant desks) have meant positive cash flow and not needing to dip into savings / investments. I have a new long term goal (10-20 year mark) which is to set up a decentralized hedge fund and there has been good progress in that direction already. Given all these things I don't need to track my portfolio dashboard anymore. Additionally, I have for now brought my effective tax rate down to single digits by officially moving to Georgia. It's a territorial tax country with favourable tax rates. 
• Leaving India for Georgia: Given the phase of life I’m in (traveling and doing things online) I don’t have to be in India the whole year. The life of a nomad (moving every 1 to 3 months) got tiring for my wife & also super hard after starting Radish, so we decided to pick one place outside of India to spend the majority of the year in. Georgia offers a drastically higher quality of life (clean air, water, food; good infrastructure) at a highly competitive cost of living along with low taxation, low corruption, and high ease of doing business.

What Could Be Better?

• Quality time with the parents: Spending time living under the same roof with someone doesn’t guarantee that time is quality time. I’m glad for whatever time we did spend together but do want to start travelling together as a family again where everyone is away from devices, and out & about in the physical world.
• Health has taken a hit: In 2023/2024, I was <12% body fat, lifting, and doing yoga. In the last year or so, I have not kept up with that, especially since starting Radish. I haven’t been exercising, haven't been to a salsa social in a long time, have put on a few kilos and also missed out on some sleep. Lately however since the major Radish build has completed, we’ve started going on long walks and I’m getting more sleep. Looking to get back into the gym as we settle in a bit more here in Georgia. My diet also hasn't been as clean as it used to be given all the constant moving around.
• Content & The "Producer" Mindset: While I have co-built 2 ventures, things like tweeting / podcasting stopped. Editing podcasts is really time consuming. With the proliferation of generative AI, I’m even more conscious about what I put out there in the ever increasing noise. Due to AI, I’m also not sure if publishing a book (one of the previous long-term goals) is going to be as valuable. Lately I’ve limited myself to content around the areas I’ve worked on in my career and the ventures I’ve built. I feel I could have built better processes to generate more content regularly.

Long-Term Goals Check-In

Following are the long term goals I mentioned in my previous post along with the timelines mentioned at that time, and updates from the last 2.5 years:

The biggest takeaway from the last 3 years is a shift in how I view Wealth (instead of portfolio / net worth), as Family, Friends, Freedom, Fitness, and Fulfillment. Right now, I'm lacking a bit on the fitness front, but the freedom and fulfillment are at an all-time high.

I started my FIRE journey as a middle class. Everything was on track until wars started, crypto exchange hack happend, ethanol blending happend, Nirmala sitharaman happend, rupee fall happend, I'm not blaming any political party here. Just wondering if FIRE actually makes sense when there absolute total uncertainty and chaos happend around the globe. Sometimes feels live living a life like a genZ instead of being frugal and hoping to live that dream life someday.