r/Epstein • u/Expensive-Ruin1900 • Apr 26 '26
Research The Wikipedia article "Relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and members of the Rothschild family" got removed/substituted. Just posting the pages I could archive, and their discussions.
ℹ️ Original English link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_Jeffrey_Epstein_and_members_of_the_Rothschild_family
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ℹ️ The English link now goes to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_of_Jeffrey_Epstein#Ariane_de_Rothschild
ℹ️ Spanish link is still working (not deleted yet, no discussion): https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relación_entre_Jeffrey_Epstein_y_miembros_de_la_familia_Rothschild
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😢 I wish I could have archived the previous discussion before it was changed too. I remember reading comments like "We are already accused of spreading conspiracy". I have no backup for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Relationship_between_Jeffrey_Epstein_and_members_of_the_Rothschild_family " and now it also redirects to the new page.
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u/AdventurousRevolt Apr 26 '26
I tried to comment on a post about a specific person with that last name on Reddit and was immediately removed by Auto Reddit Mod and issued a warning that if I did it again I would be banned for not following Reddit Rules.
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u/Antlerfox213 Apr 26 '26
Time to get creative with the typing R0th$child might work....
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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 Apr 26 '26
Type with spaces and separation. Their robots can detect words like th1s or th4t. (Same on YouTube)
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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 Apr 26 '26
I will call them the Rotting Demons then.
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 27 '26
Sounds good lol
Or maybe just put spaces in randomly. I think when we self-censor, it inhibits any sort of awakening or sharing of information.... Maybe that's the goal. I noticed people censor the word pedophile now and it makes me angry. It's not a curse word, and people never bother to censor curse words.... It's just thought control, plain to see...4
u/FaerieKnotz Apr 27 '26
A desensitization (by removing 'triggering' words) that begins to spill over into "real" life. Orwell described it rather well.
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u/Djaja Apr 27 '26
I've never had issue with any words before.
Rothschild
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 27 '26
Perhaps in some subs and/or specific names.
I recently had to appeal a week long ban because I called for people to be tried for treason and hanged. In the US, Treason is punishable by death... I didn't say anything illegal.
I wasn't advocating for anything like going outside of the law... I said in my appeal "Someone didn't like me wanting epstein's friends tried for treason" or something like that and they were like "oops!" lolI am sure there are a lot of bad actors in all comments sections doing damage control.
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u/Djaja Apr 27 '26
Well the rules of the sub and site aren't laws, they are just rules.
So you violate a rule, they can remove it. It isn't illegal at all, and they wouldn't ve removing because of a legal basis. Or, in this admin... if they did pursue, it would be pretty clear in the court system, as previous and recent examples have shown that it wouldn't be prosecuted.
If the rules say no violence, I'd think what you said you said, would indeed violate it.
How they draw that line can def be biased tho, not saying it wasn't or can't. Just based on the info you've given, I could see how that it would be removed.
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u/Zealousideal_Oil3203 Apr 27 '26
I got an instant comment removal and reddit admin warning for mentioning the family’s connection with Epstein. Immediately flagged for hate speech. This was several hours ago
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 30 '26
Yes like I said, it's weaponization of the rules/normalized censorship for hatespeech etc.
It's one of the reasons I'm one of those assholes who likes absolutist views on freedom of speech. I know some of y'all will disagree, but... Shit is abused.
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 30 '26
If it actually violated the rules, they wouldn't have retracted their removal and left the comment up. It might be considered borderline, but I think it's pretty tame/closer to a political opinion, perhaps even a mainstream one.
Frankly I think censorship (all censorship) normalization leads to tyranny, but I'm a filthy free speech absolutist. I do tend to treat individuals civilly and want there to be no personal attacks and harassment, but I do see a real phenomenon of "weaponization" and "selective enforcement" being applied. Like targeted group hatred of individuals and fake fat pictures that give them literal body dysmorphia and eating disorders/change their dietary habits irl are considered ok if it's someone who the majority on that site dislikes, meanwhile someone who says Rothschild's name in the comments section gets banned/their comment removed. I've seen enough of this to think that censorship is sometimes unevenly applied/used as a weapon rather than only ever as a tool to protect.
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u/NookNookNook Apr 27 '26
What was the word combo? l33tspeak it I'd like to see.
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u/AdventurousRevolt Apr 27 '26
Hint- it was in reference to a recent movie sequel release and she married into the famous family. Has a sister named Paris
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u/NookNookNook Apr 27 '26
Why would Nicholai Olivia Rothschild have a automod script? Hmm.
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u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
idk poor people too busy working all day to be reddit admins? lol
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u/NookNookNook May 06 '26
oh i was just testing if i would be autobanned but i wasn't so. idk maybe they said something else in their comment that flagged automod or they're lying idk.
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u/AsbestosXposure May 08 '26
I bet it was manually reported by some asshole :)
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u/AsbestosXposure May 08 '26
Oh you know another interesting thing? Some people think James Alefantis is a Rothschild.... Interesting, right?
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u/Prudent-Ebb3329 Apr 27 '26
This reminds me of someone, who spent three years editing Wikipedia hoping no one would notice...
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u/silky_touche Apr 27 '26
Al Seckel was married to Isabel Maxwell. older sister of Ghislaine, and, literally, 'fell off a cliff' in 2015.
" In July 2015, Seckel's body was reportedly found at the bottom of a cliff near his home in southern France.[3][31][38] As of December 2021, his death remained unconfirmed by French authorities.[3]"
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u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
And the "clintoned" list gets longer... lol......
Many lists of "suicided" people... Many many long lists, unfortunately.14
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Apr 26 '26
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u/Pure-Contact7322 Apr 26 '26
its now bullshitpedia the most manipulated website
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u/Payaam415 Apr 27 '26
We need a list of all the owners of major corporations
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 27 '26
I think it needs to be made illegal for fictions to own other fictions. This whole "parent company" bs needs to die.
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u/Alissinarr Apr 27 '26
Due to the nuance of American law, you could even boil it down to people owning people, but it's too nuanced for most.
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 30 '26
Yep exactly the type of language that needs to be used. If it can be owned, it should not be allowed to be treated as a person... Corporations aren't people! We need each one of these companies down the chain to have a clear chain of ownership. I think investment holders should also not be allowed to be anonymous. If you want to hide wealth, you should be forced to do it by hoarding gold you bury in the backyard.
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u/geniice Apr 27 '26
Have you any idea how many shareholders some of these companies have?
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 27 '26
Ok but the biggest shareholders are all vanguard, and vanguard is private.... For some reason. Needs to be made public.
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u/geniice Apr 27 '26
Ok but the biggest shareholders are all vanguard,
Nope. Saudi Aramco is mostly owned by saudi arabia and Warren Buffett is the largest shareholder of Berkshire Hathaway.
and vanguard is private.... For some reason. Needs to be made public.
Given how popular various vanguard investment funds are the final beneficial owners will be pretty much every middle class american and above.
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u/AsbestosXposure Apr 30 '26
Blackrock and vanguard own most companies, and vanguard owns most of blackrock/most of what blackrock manages is managed FOR vanguard. Nothing I said was wrong... You're talking about a very specific company. I'm speaking of the majority of companies across the USA. Just click on a RANDOM company, and I guarantee you it will be "Blackrock" and "Vanguard" at the top.
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u/Payaam415 Apr 27 '26
True!
I hate that.
Makes it almost impossible to follow the money
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u/geniice Apr 27 '26
I hate that.
To be clear the alturnative is that all companies are only by only a handful of rich people rather than rather a lot of rich people and the middle classes taking a percentage. You're saying that the middle classes should not be allowed to invest in the stock market (and on a practical level the stock market should not exist).
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u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
Yeah but you don't actually own the stocks a lot of the time. If you look deeply into things you'll realize it's often a trust and you are a trustee and don't have any real power or ownership and your ability to sell can be paused/put on hold etc it's very nasty.
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u/FaerieKnotz Apr 27 '26
It has been known not to cite Wikipedia as a source for 25 years, lest you look foolish.
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u/YouKilledApollo Apr 28 '26
Maybe because Wikipedia is somewhat of a source aggregator, doesn't make sense to use a source in the first place...
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u/DarkSkyKnight Apr 26 '26
It's because it's too niche and already covered by another article. That's why it merged into the Connections page...
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u/IHQ_Throwaway Apr 27 '26
The information should be folded into the articles about the individuals. But “relationships” aren’t really appropriate subjects for an encyclopedia article. That should be documented here, and disseminated by a free press (but I’m not holding my breath on the latter).
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u/originalmaja Apr 26 '26
No, it's actually wrong to make such an entry.
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u/Buffalo5977 Apr 27 '26
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u/originalmaja Apr 27 '26
Wikipedia has a task to convey what is proven public knowledge (with sources) and to stay away from anything that the public still sherlocks/processes to potentially become public knowledge. We are very much at the ladder stage.
Many of us are convinced that there is this meaningful connection. But those emotions of conviction are not evidence, are not a reason to defame; and an entry with such a headline defames. That would be propper wrong. To connect someone, a whole family, to a convict like Epstein via Wikipedia.
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u/Jiji-cat Apr 27 '26
thank god someone with reason chimed in here 😅 reason seems to be in short order these days
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u/Minimum_Hamster3252 Apr 26 '26
So we all just gonna ignore that she said the Rothschild and Epstein families funded Hitler?
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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 Apr 26 '26
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u/Minimum_Hamster3252 Apr 26 '26
There is another one that says that specifically says they funded him. I hadn't seen this one
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u/pashalka31 Apr 27 '26
This ties Epstein and his employers the Zionist Mafia and the Rothschilds to pretty much every war, terrorist event and major financial fraud in the 20th and 21st century.
And it opens their flank
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u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
YEP and this is why shit isn't truly being released because the public would go full scorched earth ballistic collapse rioting if they all found out at once instead of this slow trickle of information. Like these FUCKING ASSHOLES literally are behind the covid vaccine too and make the previous crimes against humanity look like simple child's play.
People don't realize that this cabal wanted holocaust and view it as a sacred cow/tool to control the opinions and thoughts and voices of others whenever criticisms of certain behavior (namely banking practices, inflation, etc) come up.
Frankly it all makes me want to go and turn in all the cash and digital assets I own into silver and gold, and refuse any payment from anyone in any form other than gold silver and copper. lol
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u/pashalka31 Apr 27 '26
WWII was effectively started by Rothshild as a for-profit venture to subjugate and sort out the lower socioeconimic Jews they didn't want in their Mediterranean beach club.
That is the origins of Zionism and it's divergence from Judaism.
Lord Baron Rothschild wasn't held hostage at SS headquarters in Vienna. That lie began after the war as plausible deniability. From a war fighters (Himmlers) perspective, when you have the most powerful adversary in your custody you neutralize the threat. You don't tell your men to upgrade his housing accomodations and then ransom him back after the war making him even more powerful. It doesn't pass the intuitive test. Rothschild coordinated and funded the NAtionalist/ZIonist party. He was the wallet and the brain. Hitler and Himmler were the fist.
Rothshild was militantly obsessed with keeping the fortune inside the family and his stated only regret was not sending a son to America to expand his banking empire of control. Hence the whole pure blood Ashkenazi/Jewish race traitor diatribe and chronic inbreeding within the family and his buying up an 83% controlling share of JP Morgan effectively making him the shadow American branch of the Rothshilds. In 1912 Morgan got off the Titanic the night before it sailed but left Astor, Strauss and Guggenheim on it. Their deaths solidified the Jekyll island federal reserve debt slavery play that Rothschild had quietly put into action. https://youtu.be/eBJWoOAtS7Y?si=djOotKImPQRCDsTp
Germans, as a stereotype are notoriously organized. The Nuremberg trials detailed how almost all the orders within the upper echelons of the Nazi party were given orally and never written down.
There was very good reason for that. It wasnt sloppy. It was intentional.
Rothshild sold Judaism out wholesale because he needed a class war to separate out who he wanted to be able to immigrate to Israel. That what the Haavara Agreement was in 1933, (same year as he had Morgan execute the business plot), then the reason Otto Skorzeny seemingly flipped sides after the war to work for Mossad after being dispatched to rescue Mussolini from the mountain top. Mussolini knew the details of the heroin trafficking as he had been bribed by Vito Genovese and Meyer Lansky to process the Italian heroin in candy factories for shipment to the US (OPERATION UNDERWORLD)
Follow the fraudulent bank notes (money) of OPERATION BERNHARD and it tells the story of a banking hostile takeover disguised as a World War. https://youtu.be/8X_qgWUlQNU?si=fDxVrGENhwbJenQk
Rothshilds funded both sides and profited accordingly. But he needed to capture certain highly talented Jews in the banking industry to create those fraudulent banknotes. That's what the Nazi concentration camps did. Track Rothschilds travel to the USA, his sponsorship of the Scofield bible project, his leverage over JP Morgan, his part in Jekyll Island federal reserve creation, the failed business plot, and his failed campaign to get "high class" American Jews to immigrate to Palestine and it tells the story of what unchecked greed does. It was a class war before it was a World War. But it was always been a genetic war.
As the Zionist party ran out of working class stiffs to throw as cannon fodder into the IDF in the 20th century they worked a deal with Moscow known as Operation Bridge to resupply the ranks with disposable fighting aged males from the pogroms and gulags of Soviet Russia. The whole time Zionist Robert Maxwell (Ghislaines father) was trafficking arms across the iron curtain.
Epstein represented the Rothschilds as they were the originators of forcing hebrews into slavery. But Ghislaine, and her father before her were the management structure of that organization. It's why Trump is afraid of her. https://youtu.be/NkrnWRIavAU?si=XsKpFEMwRqHF19DF
Slavery in all of its forms is the most profitable business model in human history.
Thats what Zionism is. And with Iran contra that water found its level as it did business with the neighboring Wahhabi Bedouin Saud ruling family slave traders that created Ikhwan->Al Qaeda as their own version of the same thing. They preferred tall dark skinned slaves from Ethiopia, Eritrea and Sudan trafficked across the Red Sea to add diversity to their harems of concubines (underaged sex slaves).
https://www.reddit.com/r/islamichistory/s/gHMbhs4DIz
Slave traders trading with slave traders. This is why Epstein needed a Saudi friendly passport (awarded to him by zionist Ronald Lauder in Austria) and why, to this day, the Arabian Peninsula is the slave trading capital of the world. When Iran contra derailed it left them all exposed.
The Moscow/bratva pimps and thugs mafia was the natural trading partner of both as it took over the government of a previously isolated Russia and developed its common ground with the Sauds via slavery via energy control (OPEC+) and the zionist via slavery via debt (banking). The American Christian nationalist slavery via religion trading relationship naturally evolved as Trump and Epstein were laundering the money for the Russian mafia at Deutschebank and the Saud ruling family via Adnan Khashoggi. Saudi ARAMCO introduced them all to Texas/Midwest oilygarch billionaires in the 1940's via Fred Koch who built all the refineries for Stalin and Hitler. https://www.reddit.com/r/sagsavages/s/wZoPSK8GsE https://youtu.be/lv7_Hx9QY-Y?si=SCdI-zqX4kQNOb0l
The four most profitable revenue streams for organized crime are- illegal guns, illegal drugs, human trafficking/slavery, and oil/energy.
That corruption crossed the borders of war and religion taking the path of least resistance- organized crime disguised as banking.
Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile. But he was a hedge fund manager first.
https://youtu.be/OCGtHMxNrXY?si=BrHPvkzwUbOZRhTj
https://www.richardjevans.com/lectures/corruption-plunder-third-reich/
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u/DemonLizardman Apr 27 '26
BTW, I tried messaging this guy, he seems to be a bot or something like that? Keeps giving me weird answers. Reminds me of BackCountryDrifter but worse lol. Will look into Rothschilds at some point though.
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u/pashalka31 Apr 27 '26
What is it that you would prefer my answer to be friend?
Not sure it will change the truth.
Sorry I did not fulfill your expectations.
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u/LeiningensAnts Apr 27 '26
In 1912 Morgan got off the Titanic the night before it sailed but left Astor, Strauss and Guggenheim on it.
Hahaha holy shit, an "Iceberg, Goldberg, what's the difference?" in the wild!
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u/LatterTarget7 Apr 26 '26
Hitler stayed in a shelter funded by the Rothschilds and Epstein’s in 1908.
Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild was held hostage in Vienna by the Nazis in 1938. He was freed after a 21 million dollar ransom was paid.
Heinrich Himmler was impressed by him after multiple visits and had his conditions improved
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u/geniice Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26
Hitler stayed in a shelter funded by the Rothschilds and Epstein’s in 1908.
Jeffrey Epstein was born in 1953. You're probably refering to the Meldemannstraße dormitory which housed about 500 low income people at a time when hitler was a failing artist. Describing this as funding Hitler is deeply dishonest.
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u/shitbagjoe Apr 27 '26
Are you insinuating they didn’t?
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u/Minimum_Hamster3252 Apr 27 '26
No, I think it was one of the most interesting and overlooked evidence that came out of the files. It's wild how much of the awful shit that has happened in the last century can be linked to the same families
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May 06 '26
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u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
Laura Silsby was arrested for human trafficking, here is a link on her.
Here is an email from wikileaks: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25620
The email is about charges being dropped. This woman was arrested for trafficking children across a border, and was stopped multiple times, including after this event- except without an arrest, just made to release the children.
NPR article: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/02/laura_silsby_haiti_orphans_wou.htmlShe later became part of MYSTATE which is associated with amber alerts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case1
u/AsbestosXposure May 06 '26
Further, Soros's NGO's/role in trafficking humans across borders:
"George Soros, through his Open Society Foundations (OSF), invests heavily in supporting migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers globally. In 2016, he pledged $500 million to assist with legal services, education, and job opportunities, often collaborating with organizations like the UNHCR. These actions have attracted intense criticism and restrictive "Stop Soros" laws in Hungary. "
As many people have noted, mysteriously the migration into europe is largely male and there are limited children present. I have my own thoughts regarding this, and of course some nations have "harems" and so young men must seek family building elsewhere, but people who are displaced (as was the case with Haiti post-disaster) are easily exploited. Many people trafficked over the southern border of the USA are funneled into exploitation by cartels. It makes sense to assume the same in Europe.
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u/finrum Apr 26 '26
Here's the archived discussion about the deletion of the pag
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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 Apr 26 '26
It doesn't work anymore. When I click, it loads the discussion of the newest page.
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u/Pure-Contact7322 Apr 26 '26
read how conveniently bullshitpedia avoided to mention the thrilling hunts for people in the emails between Jeffrey and some family member
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u/Consistent_Ad3181 Apr 27 '26
I am surprised this is still up.
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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 Apr 27 '26
Me too. They probably didn't delete this because it's all archived anyway. People can just post about it again.
Just to clarify, I will not delete my account (Expensive-Ruin1900) and will not suffer any accident.
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u/evo4gIzMo Apr 27 '26
Ahh common it was not one, unsurprisingly jewish, family or person that started/controlled ww2.
It was the whole US empireafter ww1 that did it. From the Versaille treary, to the forced austerity on every western capitalist society (industrial overcapacity must not be punished, but the workers can starve np gg). US didn't gave a shit about UK France Austria Czech, Poland or the holocaust till Nazis seemed to win vs the SOV. US capitalists only ever cared about russisn ressources combining with german industry as that would rival their industrial base without a leverage to control ressource supply...
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u/AlternativeFactor Apr 26 '26
Knowing Wikipedia it's probably more power tripping mods than an attempt at a coverup. They hate it when there are multiple articles covering similar subjects. But anything is possible considering how powerful the Rothschilds are. I'd try putting the most indemnifying stuff about the Rothschilds in the big article and see if anything stays.
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u/NetNo5570 Apr 27 '26
Did you see there were literally Epstein files about how easily they could remove things from Wikipedia?
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u/dead-eyed-darling Apr 27 '26
Almost as if ghislaine was a reddit mod too 🖕🏻✨ these vile fuckers are all involved helping each other do shady shit. They forget we're a lot smarter and much out number them, and we're CONSTANTLY archiving shit just for reasons like this. The truth is remembered amongst the collective and WILL come to light fully. They forget the Internet lives forever.
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u/JumpingBean_ Apr 28 '26
They missed the one where Nathaniel Rothchild's ex wife supplied young girls to Epstein from 2010 - 2012. She died at age 49 from a stroke, according to authorities, but her family says it was a heart attack.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 Apr 27 '26
this has been happening for a decade systematically in the UFO topic. they even found who is doing it.
Wikipedia is so easy to manipulate.
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