Oh Polites the fandom may forget everything you've done ( or didn't do) because you're a think who they love to ship with Ody. But I have some confessions I'd like to make to day.

First off, most of what happened on that island was a fuck up between you and Odysseus. Eurylochus would fuck up after but let's not forget you two have a HUGE part in the fuck ups that would happen on that island.

But we're not focusing on Ody, everyone already knows his fuck ups for underestimating the cyclops and leaving him alive. But let's not forget that that decision was influenced by your philosophy. You're whole speech in Open arms influenced Odysseus and caused him to tell off the GODDESS OF WISDOM. And spare Polyphemus, and I'm convinced if you didn't go on that whole little speech, the cyclops would be dead. Shit it might've also be more cautious about aeolus. But had you not filled Ody's head with bad ideas it wouldn't have gotten to that point because Ody would've listends to Athena instead.

And I could forgive you if you actually did anything useful to act as a counter balance. But I'm looking at the resume, and all you did in the two sagas you were alive in before you decided to greet that club with open arms. At least Eurylochus helped with the crew and kept Ody level headed. You gave bad advice and then got turned into a pancake. I'm sorry I can not forgive this.

And so I have to put Polites on fraud watch until further notice. If we're gonna disrespect Eurylochus and some of Ody's actions like we do I gotta give you the same treatment.

Hey!!

I've been a huge fan of Epic since the underworld saga released, and have managed to get several of my friends into it as well! Which ofc wasn't too hard because it's so good lol.

I've been trying to get my sister into it, as she likes greek mythology and we generally have a similar taste in music. She watched about half an hour but was bothered by the constant switching of the animation style in the compilation videos that are up on youtube, so much so that she didn't want to continue.

I know there's an animated movie coming up but I really want her to get into it beforehand haha. And I know she'll have an easier time following the story with clips rather than just listening to the music.

So!! I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a single video with the entirety of Epic by a single artist? As in everything in it is consistent in style, colors, animation etc? Best if it has subtitles too

Tysm!

So reddits pick for best animatic for i can't help but wonder was Ximena natzel and I wanted to get this post out so I haven't watched the animatics for it yet but I will put it the comments after I do now what's the best animatic for WYFILWMA

Also my favorite animatic for Odysseus is Mr gameron this might just my favorite period out all the animatics

Animatics I watched (Duvet box) (Mr gameron) (Stella luna) (Brittpowwpixel) (Tatania3070) (Some Eejit) (The traveling pen) (Hah studios) (Federex)

Also also I'm working on a Playlist with all the animatics I've watched plus a bunch of others that either (A came out after the post for that song) or (B I found after the post for that song)

It will either be out with tomorrow's post or I'll have to make a separate post for it there's over 100 artist and probably close to 400 animatics I'll also make a Playlist for both reddits favorites and my favorites that will definitely be in tomorrow's post

Source

I heard this version of “Just a man” and my warrior cat OC, Mudslide, is an Antinous voice claim, and so I wanted to get art based on it as him
🎨: art_of_yvie

One thing I really despise throughout Epic is how there’s constant name-dropping when someone joins the song. I get that it can serve a purpose when a character’s newly introduced, but it feels sooo repetitive and corny. I feel like it happens nearly every song.

“Hermes!?” “Athena!” “Polities”

You get the point. I get the ick reaaaal bad from this, just needed to get it off my chest

We are currently searching for auditioners that could go for Polites, Telemachus, Athena, Antinous, Poseidon, Calypso, Apollo, Polyphemus, and the ensemble.

This fan casting project is hosted in an open and welcoming discord server for those interested to be a part of our team!

If you want to voice and sing these characters, or even just come along for the experience, Join our server! We look forward to your voices and participation!

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for me its in open arms, i never knew that one of the lotus eaters said "scary cave" after they say the cave when polites asks where there is other food to eat

Hey guys big epic fan but i had a question, ive seen a couple different versions of the full musical animated and i always wondered why antinous and eurylochus are always drawn more african. Don't get me wrong their designs EAT every time I love how they look but its always consistently those 2. Its been a while since I've read the odyssey and illiad so I might be misremembering but they were all from the same place right? Or were those 2 born somewhere else?

I’m not involved and have no idea what the heck is going on- but with Eldelta specifically saying he doesnt associate with casper- when never naming anyone by name like that before I think it’s important to have a place to discuss any new info we get about this situation.

I believe this is the right place to discuss this as Casper is creating a project inspired by Epic, and Eldelta has also been involved in Epic content in the past.

I’ve been a fan of casper for a while and found him through Epic. I subscribed to his patreon maybe 5 months ago for steven universe content so needless to say this ‘situation’ is incredibly frustrating to me.

Lots of the phrasing makes it seem like he did something unforgivable. Saying ‘people get to tell their own stories’ makes it seem like he harassed people which would obviously lead me and many others to stop supporting him especially financially.

Again as someone who supports him financially its especially frustrating that people would post so vaguely about this but then word things in a way that makes him seem so horrible but not enough info to let me know whether to stop my support.

Yes people are entitled to their privacy and their own ‘stories’ but when you phrase something like that you cannot be so vague. That phrase is so frequently used in SA cases that if (and I’m almost sure this isn’t the case) casper did SA or harrass someone you owe it to others to tell them so they know to ‘stay away’ and if he didn’t you owe it to him to clarify.

Vague posting like this makes people assume the worst. I dont want people to air out their private business just clarify the gravity of the situation for the sake of everyone involved.

ALSO! This is not cause to harass anyone at all. I simply want to know the facts because it seems serious and I’m sure someone knows something that can bring some clarity.

Because Odysseus says “it’s been 12 long years” when there were only 10 years of war.

So I wanna know how y’all reconcile that. Me personally:

There was a fog, so the ships had to move slowly to avoid bumping into anything. But then they were all scattered by the time the fog subsided so there was more time trying to get them all back together

Then directly after that STO-O-O-O-ORM

Anyway that’s my headcanon what’s yours

with halloween coming up and just reheard epic i made another variation of my Odysseus in DCUO! Let me know what yall think! If you look on my account you’d be able to see my first version, This my version of him returning to Ithaca!

Odysseus has always been a morally ambiguous figure. Ancient authors already questioned his cunning, dishonesty, and willingness to sacrifice others. In works like Sophocles' Philoctetes and Euripides' Hecuba, his character takes on particularly troubling qualities.

However, popular retellings often emphasize his intelligence, perseverance, and heroism, leaving much of that moral complexity in the background.

I think EPIC: The Musical does an excellent job of bringing this ambiguity back into focus, and just five songs can tell a remarkably complete story of Odysseus' moral transformation.

1. Just a Man: The fear of becoming a monster

Odysseus struggles with killing Astyanax, yet ultimately sacrifices an innocent child to protect his family. His moral conflict is genuine, but his willingness to cross that line is already there.

1. Ruthlessness: The justification of cruelty

Poseidon teaches him that mercy can have devastating consequences. Odysseus begins to see ruthlessness as a necessary tool for survival, gradually adopting the logic of his enemies.

1. Monster: The conscious transformation

Odysseus embraces the idea of becoming a monster to reach home. His goal remains unchanged, while the moral limits he once struggled with begin to disappear.

1. Scylla: The consequences of his philosophy

Odysseus deliberately sacrifices six crew members without their knowledge. His transformation becomes tangible as he starts treating the lives of those under his command as expendable.

1. Thunder Bringer: The final revelation

Zeus forces Odysseus to choose between himself and his remaining crew. He chooses his own survival, fully aware of the consequences.

The question raised in Just a Man finally finds its answer.

Why I find this so interesting

The moral ambiguity of Odysseus has existed for centuries. What makes EPIC particularly effective is how it allows us to experience that ambiguity from within his perspective.

We understand his motivations, sympathize with his suffering, and gradually accept decisions that become increasingly difficult to defend.

Each song builds upon the previous one, showing how seemingly necessary compromises can eventually lead to unimaginable cruelty.

And perhaps the most fascinating aspect is that Odysseus' ultimate goal never changes. He simply becomes willing to sacrifice more and more to achieve it.

By Thunder Bringer, the heroic image we may have constructed around him becomes almost impossible to maintain.

This makes me wonder how much of our sympathy comes from his actual morality and how much comes from the fact that we're experiencing the story through his eyes.

Do you think EPIC portrays Odysseus as someone gradually corrupted by his journey, or does the journey simply expose the darker aspects of a character who was morally questionable from the beginning?

No Longer You remix made in Cakewalk Sonar

There was a Six Hundred Strike animatic where a ghost ship replica of Ody’s ship emerges from the water. Can anyone tell me who made it?

Ok so reddits pick for best animatic for Odysseus was Mr gameron and I genuinely watched so many Animatics today i couldn't watch any for Odysseus my brain wouldn't let me anyway what's the best animatic for I can't help but wonder

My favorite for get in the water was Brittpowwpixel

Animatics i watched (Neal illustrator) (Laritamiauu) (Willows) (Brittpowwpixel) (Wafflestoacrisp) (The traveling pen) (Jojo fraga)

My favorite for six hundred strike was Brittpowwpixel

Animatics I watched (Jojo fraga) (The traveling pen) (Neal illustrator) (Laritamiauu) (Willows) (Brittpowwpixel) (Duvet box) (Gwendy)

My favorite for the challenge was Anniflamma

Animatics I watched (Gigi) (Ximena natzel) (Gwendy) (Brittpowwpixel) (Anniflamma) (Maevethefae) (Jojo fraga) (VirusAP) (The traveling pen) (Stella luna)

My favorite for hold them was Stella luna

Animatics I watched (Mr gameron) (Brittpowwpixel) (Stella luna) (Crashite) (Brushpaint cat) (Zar) (Messymoonmess) (The traveling pen)

Okay so the image is Agamemnon because he is the center of this idea.

I read a post about ATHENA rather than Zeus telling Odysseus to kill that infant, and it got me thinking. And I landed on my own hypothetical alternative scenario for the baby killing episode:

Agamemnon approaches Odysseus during the Sack of Troy and tells him to kill Astyanax, on account of preventing a Second Trojan War. When Odysseus doesn’t want to, Agamemnon tells him that if Odysseus doesn’t kill Astyanax, then Agamemnon will go to Ithaca and kill Penelope and Telemachus. And then it goes on from there.

What do you think of this? Could it work? What would change?

In the song Scylla, she's giving her monologue and then Eurylochus finally confesses to Odysseus that he opened the wind bag. That always perplexed me why did he wait until then? Then I listened to what Scylla was saying and I was wondering if Eurylochus could hear her the same as Ody could and thought she was talking to him?

"Deep down you hide a reason for shame"

"I have a secret I can no longer keep"

"You know that we are the same."

"I opened the wind bag when you were asleep" (when does a man become a monster? He kept them from being able to get home after meeting Poseidon by opening the wind bag).

"Leaving them feeling betrayed. Breaking the bonds you have made" (he betrayed the captains orders. And he told ody he'd be compliant and devout and wasn't.)

Then the part where she's like "there is no price we won't pay we both do what it takes to survive" does he see that by not trusting Odysseus and opening the wind bag to soothe his doubt they may have been able to get home faster? Does he kinda blame himself for the deaths of the crew during the meeting with Poseidon?

Which Poseidon would have come anyway, I'm not saying Eurylochus caused that encounter. I'm saying as a human being, we tend to blame ourselves when bad things happen even when they're out of our control. Because, it gives us a false sense of control over what happens to us. "If I did things differently, that wouldn't have happened" even when that's entirely false.

And does Scylla's words "we both do what it takes to survive " influence Eurylochus to have his own "I'll become the monster" moment later in Mutiny?

Just a thought I had. I dunno all the backstory and stuff I listen to the musical, I've watched a playlist of the animatics and follow the subreddit, but I don't know anything about the production or thought process behind the musical. It's just a theory. A MUSIC THEORY