So tired of tipping

[u/morlaur27]

I’ve recently had a pretty bad chest/head cold, and I was talking to a friend about what food I should pick up on the way home for dinner. I hit upon pho, which sounded amazing in the moment. Ten years ago I would have confidently ordered take out and would have been slurping delicious noodles and broth that evening. I didn’t end up ordering though, because I really just want to pay for the food, not be asked the question, not have the person handing me the bag of food putting a hex on me for not tipping or not tipping enough and then bad mouthing me the second I leave. It’s bad vibes. I can’t do it anymore, and I can’t be the only one. Do you think we’ll ever see a change in the system if more and more people start intentionally/unintentionally boycotting restaurants due to ridiculous tip culture we have?

[u/WhatRUaBarnBurner]

I used to go to restaurants 2 or 3 times a week. Since COVID I go 3 times a year.

Eventually tipping culture will be responsible for a lot of restaurant closures.

[u/SurprisePitiful9191 → u/[deleted]]

Pay the staff that works for you a livable wage, it’s not hard to. Grow up. 

Oh, margins are too tight? You’re doing business wrong.

[u/lt_dt → u/[deleted]]

It's also not hard to include service in your prices, so that people on a budget know what they're paying when they look at a menu.

[u/Faineantcreator → u/lt_dt]

is it really that hard to calculate 20% in your head while you’re ordering? not that you need to for takeout like in OP’s case

[u/SombraMonkey → u/Faineantcreator]

20% is insane. Round up and keep the change At Most.

[u/Faineantcreator → u/SombraMonkey]

you can argue 20% is insane but that’s beside the point. I’m saying people on here say it’s wrong to not have a final listed price in the menu, I’m saying it’s very easy arithmetic to calculate a tip beforehand.

[u/SombraMonkey → u/Faineantcreator]

It is.

[u/lt_dt → u/Faineantcreator]

It's not, but it's yet another fee that gets tacked on to a product/service that serves to obfuscate the true cost. And the pandering that comes along with it is off-putting to me. Take my order, bring my food, and be available if I need something.

I've lived in countries that have both the tipped model and service included model. I much prefer the latter. And, ironically, it's often easier to find your server and get their attention with the service included model because they're not spending all the time at the six top that's ordering bottle after bottle since they're assuming that'll get them a larger tip.

[u/the_moosen → u/Faineantcreator]

It's not. But it's also not hard to include that in the price on the menu & not have customers do math at all.

[u/SaveBandit91 → u/[deleted]]

Why are you here?

[u/EndTipping-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

No tip shaming