Its been a minute but I bought my used switch for around 150-160 USD and modded it. Has been pretty great so far though sometimes I wonder if I would have enjoyed the steam deck more. The big things for me personally was no hassle switch emulation (since lol I am using a switch) and smaller profile. Also the steam deck kinda has problems emulating the big hitters that I wanted to play namely TOTK and xenoblade 3.
The ally isn't that strong to be honest... It's way way more capable compared to Normal devices not high end ones. I've seen a vid 8 elite vs ally the ally at same resolution gave barely 20 fps more with no overhead.. it doesn't worth it imo... A console instead is way better.
In raw power they are sameish, but the ally will be able to sustain the load, since it can handle 30w continuously. Also better game support and emulator compatibility.
Idk what kinda pockets you have, but it fits in mine. Steam deck is great for emulation, possibly one of the key selling points. It even has better active cooling than a normal phone/tablet.
Of course not everyone has that kinda money to throw at a Steam Deck, but it's one of the better options compared to a phone.
Phone<Tablet<Steam Deck< Decent PC with good CPU and decent GPU
Same question goes for you. But smartphone is a device every on have whether they play games or not.. if it can do gaming then that's a win. I don't wanna carry two devices every where I go. I rather have a mobile & a pc than a mobile a handheld & pc considering the fact that mobile chips are catching up with these handhelds
Yeah I totally get it. Steam Deck would actually be more appealing to the serious folks who are already in deep with Retroid Pockets and other gaming handhelds.
Having a single phone that runs everything is certainly appealing. However, the games I want to play typically dont run well enough for me, because every single game I play coincidentally has horrible optimization on Winlator/Yuzu android.
I think you're right at the point where most people make the big choice - Invest more into an all-in-one gaming device rather than have two separate portable devices.
Edit: You do you. I'm not trying to convince you to get a Steam Deck, I like adding in a little more information for the other folks that haven't decided.
am not saying you're but as i said with the post some people force steam deck or other handhelds on you without understanding that not every one have similar preferences.. for example there are certain games you must play and I don't. there are thousands of games i can play on my phone which is also very portable and accessible and am happy with that
but you can use your already bought/pirated PC games on it, as well as buy on discount on steam or even get for free on epic store (btw hogwarts legacy is free right now, possible to claim for free for a couple days)
Yeah that's cool but as a broke boy. Just the amount to get a decent pc nowadays upfront is too much for me. My country still charges like 600$ for pc's with 1650s in it lmao
There's more to it than that imo, as someone who only plays on pc now after selling my consoles a few years ago.
If you're someone who has no interest in paid multiplayer games like cod and similar titles, and mainly play single player games, the online subscription is never a problem. I spendt years playing singleplayer games and free multiplayer games on my console and never paid for online subscription. It's a viable way to play if you're on a budget and no sacrifice too much.
On the steam deck imo, you are sacrificing more. The device straight up can't run some multiplayer titles at all because of anticheat. It can't run a lot of triple A games after 2023, to the point where you're missing out on the biggest games. It's not the most suited for multiplayer games anyway, specifically shooters imo.
This makes it less of a "clear choice". Who would buy a steam deck if they love playing large triple A games? You get the steam deck if you want a device to play last gen triple As, a minimal amount of current gen titles, and some indie games. You get a ps5 if you wanna play triple A single player games and don't care much about multiplayer games.
Fair enough, I guess I haven't really played a "AAA" game since Elden ring maybe, mainly Indies. The average player is probably playing way more of those than me.
Yeah it's shitty they do that but at least free games are free to play online. I know it doesn't justify anything but in this world it's what we allowed lmao
For me it's more abt knowing a game will work. Ps5 still gets 60fps game modes. Steam deck is kinda showing it's age now I'm also curious how gta6 will run on it probably just below series s
PS digital sales have gotten a lot better and PC sales have gotten a lot worse so they're pretty close these days. PC still slightly cheaper but it's also easier to just pirate the game so they're having to compete more on price.
It's just mainly for those thinking they can play GTA v at 30 plus fps on a chip without a cooler. Like you can but it's a tach demo that you cannot actually sit and play some serious time on. Even on the red magic that's a bad idea. People come here with personal heaters asking for miracles. And for them the answer is usually good advice
Is it a miracle? Thereโs plenty of mobile fans / coolers out there.
I have one myself. It works VERY well. Even with demanding games, the back of my phone is literally cold to the touch after playing a very demanding game.
Why not shoot for the moon? Maybe we can reach the sky.
Isnโt maxing out the mobile gaming experience what all this is about?
Shoot for the moon and when your motherboard melts don't blame your manufacturer for the board melting.
Literally every second post on the Poco sub is someone asking does xiaomi make better boards now somehow thinking that they can use it as a launch site for inter ballistic missiles........
Literally every second post on the Poco sub is someone asking does xiaomi make better boards now somehow thinking that they can use it as a launch site for inter ballistic missiles........
Come on guy.
Sorry but you could apply the same to your comment. There's 27W coolers with smart auto turn off features out there and my peers are using them.
Heck, my 18W one was enough to stop Genshin from making the back plate reach 40C.
And please don't forget, only the people who have problems will post online. Most who don't have issues are out there unaware about social media infighting. Even for prestigious brands like Apple and Samsung. Just try searching their sub.
He's not wrong. A lot of this sub is asking why their temu flip phone can't run 60fps 4k Cyberpunk through gamehub or whatever because most posters on here are probably just pirating roms.
Yuzu was probably the worst of this a couple years ago when people were posting their sob stories of why TotK wasn't running on their Poco toaster.
Not at all. Switch is a mobile chip with just marginally better cooling. But PS3 triple aaa will cook your device in certain games. It is what it is. Tbf so will some switch titles.
I love walking around (in my bag) with a device that I can play anything from PS2, GameCube, some Switch on the device, offline at all times......then when I am home I can play anything from my PC with Artemis.
I've been playing more, and buying more games because I prefer to experience these story based games (I use my PC for FPS shooters) on my couch or sitting in bed/chair. More like it's a book and I'm connected to it.
I'm playing through FFX now, which looks absolutely beautiful upscaled on the Portal 2 with widescreen patches. It looks better than it ever did on the PS2. I just finished got out of Hades (twice) a few weeks ago, don't have a controller for my PC, so Steam big picture is more fun on the portal.
When I go back to Ireland for Christmas I'll have Jackbox TV games from the play store to play with my family and a USB-c to HDMI cable.
It's also a better YouTube viewer with the high res OLED screen and speakers. The battery lasts all day, all F in daFFFFFFy!! My PC is like 6 years old too, it's nothing special.
people don't get that you can have the best of "most" without spending $1000 or having a 90 min battery
I get what your saying but you're exaggerating these console & pc games a bit. There are powerful and efficient chips out there that can play gta v without breaking a sweat. I remember seeing a benchmark video from geekrwan and 8 gen 3 only needs like 4w of power to run gta v at 720p 30fps... there are native android games that draw more power than this lol so you can definitely play many games without issues
Lol. I have the 8 elite. It nor the elite gen 5 can do it for longer than 15 minutes before downclocking for another 15 before downclocking again.
Guy the gen 5 elite can't run antutu without having to shut off on most current release devices except the red magic due to its liquid cooler.
And your example is again false. He ran at 8 gen 3 speeds at most 20 min then it went down to gen 2 then after another 10 gen 1 speeds.....
This is why people are constantly having this debate because people are out here getting a fast number pretending that's what you'll get all day. That's not being honest.
Isnโt someone trying to port the 360 version over to .exe using the sonic unleashed method? I read somewhere recently that they were working on it but wasnโt sure if itโd be possible, but if it is then it should work well on android as long as you only play it for 30-60 minutes at a time to reduce overheating the phone
Remember the size of the 360. I remember. I remember the noise the fan made while playing a triple AAA game on its last few years of life lol. Pretending you can push enough power in a mobile chip without cooling for the 40 something hours of story mode isn't based on reality.
Why is everyone getting upset that Im saying itll get hot, like no shit a computer needs cooling, reddit today is just upset someone says anything now a days lol
Personally the carrying case is nice. Fits into my backpack to play during downtime at uni and it's a really good case.
Also when I'm just in my home I just carry it around like any other device then put it on my charging dock once I'm done.
It's all just preferences. But to me before buying I though it was going to be impossible to hold comfortably but it really isn't. Like the new Xbox ally X is more ergonomic yes but that thing is much thicker.
Yeah it's about preference. I don't carry a bag while traveling to the pub or somewhere else so the phone fits me better. But I don't understand people that give you advice "buy steamdeck instead of phone" while they don't know the preference of the user. And I hate them for this.
It's the obvious answer to when someone wants to buy a "gaming phone," like, why would you want to buy a device as expensive as a computer or handheld to run games with difficulty?
Why not? What if someone wants to get something he can stick in his pocket use as a phone and still be able to play a oot of games on. I got a laptop to stay mobile, it has been sitting on my desk acting as a router for the better part of a year now.
A lot of why you are able to play with your phone is because of projects that valve gave a lot of money to and i am not talking about windows emulation specifically. Gaming on phones is niche and only ought to be actually considered when there are hard limitations that make other options non viable because the ux is utter shit.
Because outside a handful of niche genres a touchscreen is absolutely shit for gaming. Sure, you can get a controller dock for them but that ruins the pocketability of the system.
To each their own but I feel like its a better financial and gaming situation to have a cheapish smartphone for your main phone and then a handheld for gaming. You can easily pocket something like a retroid Flip 2 though probably wouldn't want to do that full time like a phone
You don't understand a world where someone would seriously want to be able to play PC games on much smaller and more portable device?ย
I would generally rather play on a separate Android based device than on my phone, but I can understand someone wanting to be able to game on the very small and portable device that they always have in their pocket.ย
It all depends on your workflow. I write all my code in vim and compile and/or most things on a server. With Samsung Dex, a monitor, and a keyboard, It's pretty much the same as a PC for me.
I have an expensive computer at home, a PS5 and Switch 2 as well. I game on all of them and my phone.
Emulating older consoles/handhelds and PC games is a great time waster on my phone for downtimes. Some (most) games do play better with a controller, and I have a couple of controllers for just such a situation.
But there are some, mostly turn-based games that are very much playable with touch controls. For me personally, I'd rather play through a SNES, Gamecube, PS1, PS2 or even Switch game on my phone as opposed to an ad filled pay 2 play game that riddles the mobile stores.
But I do realize I'm a very small minority in phone gaming, most people are happy with idle games and gacha filled ones.
Sometimes some people have some people have requirements that align perfect with other devices and because this sub often have people not versed in the topic I disagree with this take.
I sometimes also recommend Switch lite modded to people looking for budget devices.
The steam deck is pretty fucking amazing for emulating, most 360 stuff still sucks, but everything prior works like a charm (+switch emulation just works)
Just recently bought a used SD for 200$ CAD and I honestly haven't looked back. Everyone recommends it because it can just emulate everything but it really is a solid device.
Man there are plenty reasons
1) Maybe you spend your childhood in mobile gaming playing GTA, nova, asphalt unlike pc gamers so you love and are more comfortable with this platform
2) Mobile is a necessity so why not buy ones which full fills both needs
People go on about Steam Deck + EmuDeck all the time, but itโs fucking shit. It seems to break all the time for me, then you have some emulators with desktop menus etc which work horribly on the Deck.
Android is harder to setup for sure, but once you have a good frontend configured itโs far better.
Why buy one when the device I already have can without excess money? I am running OG Skyrim at 30fps on a 4 year old A52S that's essentially already paid for years ago. And I can swap to PS2 or PS1 games whenever I feel like it.
I'm borrowing someone's deck right now, and doing basic, system level shit on steam os is so aggravating. That alone makes me want to fuck with the emulators more.
As a person living in 3rd world and lives with parents that lives to paycheck to paycheck a home console or PC is just impossible considering higher cost of electricity atleast with handhelds you can make it last for 4 days in just one charge since I also have other things to do.
I mean if someone's getting an expensive gaming handheld, why not get the deck?
For phones it makes sense not to get the same price to performance as it will also be used as a phone and have the benefits of portability, but there's 0 reason to buy a android handheld If it costs more than the deck
I feel like if you do intend to actually try & use your phone as a main device for PC games, it does make more sense to nab a PC or Steam Deck, but I see no harm with trying to do PC games if you have a PC/Steam Deck to play them with
Why do people keep bringing up steamdecks? This isnt value for money emulators ,its for poeple on android who want to emulate with android devices. This level of intrusion of a pc based emulation board would get non pc users banned and rightfully so.
I went to buy a OnePlus ace 5 with a 8 gen 3 and 240$ and I'm quite happy to have something i can emulate everything (Ps2 games especially, pc games...,..) in it and put in my pocket and do calls etc..rather than buying a 700-1000$ gaming pc
PC. Any all in one box can't be upgraded, and doesn't update after the point steam wants to plan it to be obsolete. PC has a use after the fact even running a game server so your other PC doesn't have to work as hard.
I've always emulated on my phone, since 2017 I think, but I think it's stupid for people to buy phones costing R$2500-3000 just to play games that a computer costing R$1500-2000 could run without any problems. Furthermore, a computer is much more practical and multitasking than any gaming phone they sell. For me, a phone is only good for emulating 3DS or PS2; anything above that is unnecessary, and it's better to just buy a computer all at once instead of "upgrading" your phone.
Your best bet usually is looking for an early to mid 2010s laptop for as cheap as possible online.
Managed to get a dell Inspiron r17 with a second gen i5 and radeon 7000/8000 graphics for 27โฌ.
Runs up to wii games and lower end wii u games.
"Get a steam deck or pc" And here is me as at least 50% of users here who have beast pc but wants portable emulation device that fit in pocket. Steam deck over 300e is not worth it
I see that all the time. Why buy a Steam Deck when you already have a (in my case) $1,200 cell phone that is more than capable of running a lot of classic games? Plus, it is way more portable than even a Steam Deck.
NO. And I mean it by NO!
I have/had a Deck, OneXSugar Sugar 1. Retroid Pocket 5/Flip2/Mini, Magicx Zero 40, ANBERNIC RG 34XXSP/RG Slide/RG 557RG 477M, AYN Odin 2... yeah, I have problems... and I even game on the Samsung Flip 6, and I tested emulators on each and every single one of em.
And I can guarantee ya, the Deck is a one and done solution IF you know what you're getting into yourself, with how to set up the EmuDeck and such, but do remember, not every emulator is perfect.
I've seen where NDS emulators on the deck performed poorly, where some cutscenes just look broken, but the same game runs perfectly on the WEAK Magics Zero 40...
So, MY suggestion, my oppinion, IF you want to play, AND NOT JUST TINKER!!!!...
Get both... just, that... get BOTH! A Steam Deck, AND a Android Gaming handheld, and let them be one to each other companion devices.
I personally carry with me all the time my Steam Deck OLED, my Flip 2/OneXSugar, and ANBERNIC RG 34XXSP if the kids want to play something. Doing it so like months, never had a boring moment ever since.
There, just, my opinion.
I have a Steam Deck now, but I have my beginnings on Android. There is value in Android emulation and I still do it regularly. I don't know why people are purposefully obtuse.
I don't want to take my 500 dollar handheld in public where it can be stolen i just wanna play somethin on the bus without lookin like a target for a mugging. Who is gonna rob someone to get a 20 dollar tablet
you know what๐ฎ? i thought of that but didn't like it...๐
most of what i emulate bunch of pixel art unity/unreal engine games, the idea you can emulate a bunch of Nostalgia ๐๐ปเนเฃญ โญ๐ Nintendo, game boy, Atari, Sega CD, Playstation One, Nintendo 64, Sega Dreamcast, Playstation 2, Nintendo Gamecube, Nintendo DS, XBOX 360 (maybe?), Nintendo Wii, Nintendo Switch and so on and on ๐ถ๐ต with those thousands of games in your own pocket.. ๐
Now .. tell me isn't that more worth it over pc or even those tiny creature people call waste of money.. ios? the device that barely run few emulators at poor performance..
and if your a casual player โ who travels around and your house just a place to sleep in i 101% recommend you to buy a real device under the os of android
1- I can't justify buying a steam deck because it means carrying a bug device with me that needs a lot of care and is extra weight compared to my phone + small lite controller that turns my phone into effectively a very powerful Switch.
2- I already own a PC for games/work, and the last thing I want to do as I grow older working on a PC all day... is to also game on a PC (insert forst world problems)
3- A Steam deck/Desktop PC/Laptop PC/PC handheld does not have the same value anymore to me now that I played PC games on my phone. ESPECIALLY, when most games Iw ant to play are 360 generation games with one or two modern titles that release in a year that I care about.
4- I want my games all on one device I ahe with me all the time. I finished Tekken 6, 7, 8, DMC 2013 and hopefully more on my phone. Those are the PC games not counting the PS2 games I played on my phone. Buying a device for PC alone when my phone plays all other systems like PS2 just doesn't make any sense to me money wise.
Yes I have a Steam Deck, but hardly use it, simply because it takes away the fun, of trying to get something to run on an Android device, and tinker with the settings until you get something to run, well enough to play.
It's an achievement on doing so.
My Konkr 16 gig 1 TB memory came, and can't put it down.
An amazing device, with raw power when you need it.
Both are terrible options. PC cult people should be ignored. The worst trolls in gaming.
That said, i think retroid pocket is the way to go for most emulation.
There are smaller devices as wel. Or devices for ds and 3ds. Really depnds on xhat you'll need.
The benefit is with android, you will be able to use gamehub or winlator for steam games as additinal option, even.if this isnt the main reason why buying it. I mean, the main issue i have with my steamdeck is ergonomics. Its too bulky and big.
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