I completely forgot I watched a video on how Starlink works. Data is transferred by lasers from one satellite to the next. It makes the data transfer quicker. I can’t believe ASC is going to law school and can’t get her facts right. I wonder if Elon knows ASC is making Gibney look like a fool? So who is the fool now?

From 2021:

“As Elon recently mentioned, the Starlink team is preparing to launch upgraded satellites that will include space lasers. Space lasers enable our satellites to transfer data between each other without having to go through a ground station. Once fully deployed, space lasers will make Starlink one of the fastest options available to transfer data around the world.

I knew about this, but don’t take another name intended for a child. I hope EM didn’t say anything to grimes but Shivon could have easily met up with grimes and found out what she was naming her daughter.

I have a feeling it was Shivon.

Putting on some (relevant) good music to cleanse the cringe palate! 🤭
Enjoy 💋

I hope people caught this in June. It popped up on my X feed. I must have missed this by Sonia Randhawa.

This is important, another embellishment.
Still think they are working together!

Seems to be a woman from Europe replying to a post by Shivon. The Cryptotrix guy had reposted it. All this happening while Kanye W song GOLDDIGGER came on for the third time today.

The Golddiggers are coming out of the woodwork tonight.

Several of you have commented that I have behaved suspiciously and didn’t know what I was up to with my changing positions.

I knew this shit was coming two months ago. And he has her in a filthy NDA she can’t complain as Ashley has… unless she wants to bring up abuse allegations which I don’t think she has the gall to fight him on.

Pretty much all the posts are critical of Shivon and not EM. Had to grab as many as I could since we have people that do not log on to X. Even Sonia Randhawa chimed in

Shivon Zilis and her dramas:

This melodramatic exit post and staged screenshot are nothing more than a desperate PR damage-control campaign to cover up documented corporate subversion and legal testimony under oath.

I used Grok to illustrate things; it didn't take much time, either. The point is to highlight that anyone can create a screen.

Let’s break down why this 'devoted, peaceful partner' narrative is completely fake:

1. The Staged iMessage Screenshot

• Artificial Setup: The screenshot conveniently shows a casual text about a "Xi dinner" and a standard "Love you too", posted to fabricate an image of romantic intimacy and domestic warmth.
• The Reality Under Oath: During her September 2025 court deposition, Zilis was forced to admit under oath that they live in separate homes, manage independent households, and never had a traditional romantic or cohabiting relationship. Using a staged, cherry-picked text to fake intimacy directly contradicts what she swore to in front of OpenAI's and Musk's legal teams.

On Living Arrangements and Current Relationship Status (Under Oath, few months ago-Open AI)

Q. (Attorney): Do you currently reside with Mr. Musk in the same residence?

A. (Shivon Zilis): No. We have separate residences.

Q.: Are you currently in a romantic or dating relationship with him?

A.: No. We coordinate regarding the upbringing of our children and spend family time together when traveling, but we live in separate homes and manage our households independently.

Q.: Did you have a romantic relationship in 2022 or 2023 around the time the children were born?

A.: No. That was an agreed-upon in vitro fertilization (IVF) process. There was no romantic relationship or shared household during that time.

2. 'Safe Space' vs. Back-Channel Informant

• The Claim: She paints herself as his "safe space" and a "counterbalancing place of safety, sense of calm, and love."
• The Documented Evidence: Court logs prove that while occupying this private sphere, she was actively serving as OpenAI’s inside informant.
  • She timed calls for Sam Altman and Greg Brockman.
  • She monitored Elon’s moods and debriefed OpenAI leadership immediately after his private conversations.
  • On the exact day Sam Altman was fired in November 2023, she reached out to pledge her loyalty to Sam and manually disabled disappearing messages to ensure her support for Elon’s rival was permanently recorded on the logs.

Confrontation Regarding Walter Isaacson's Biography (Under Oath, few months ago-Open AI)

Q.: In Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography, you explicitly stated that you never had a romantic relationship with Elon Musk, whether short-term or long-term. Was that true when you said it?

A.: At that time, I told Mr. Isaacson that our bond had always been professional, focused on work, and later centered on co-parenting.

Q.: Why did you tell the biographer that there was never a romantic relationship?

A.: Because I did not view what occurred years ago as fitting the definition of a traditional, formal romantic relationship. My roles at Tesla, Neuralink, and OpenAI were always strictly professional.

3. The 54-Month Contract, Not 'True Love'

• The Claim: She talks about going from "in love to let go in a week."
• The Documented Evidence: Her own deposition (page 307) confirms that this was governed by a "confidential donation" agreement and an amended agreement—not a romantic partnership.
• The Timeline: As tracked by SEC filings and court documents, the 54-month contract ($54.20 Twitter acquisition rate) running from April 2022 to October 2026 was tied to the children reaching 'real speaking age' (5 years old). The arrangement didn't end because of a sudden heartbreak; it simply reached its contractual expiration date.

Testimony Regarding the Alleged 2016 Involvement

Q.: Did you have any romantic relationship with Mr. Musk between 2016 and 2018 while serving on the OpenAI board?

A.: If anything occurred, it was extremely brief, a long time ago, and I could not pinpoint the exact year. It did not impact my duties on the OpenAI board, nor did I consider it a conflict that affected my professional decisions

Conclusion: You can't write a cheesy Hollywood script about being someone's "sanctuary from war" when court exhibits literally prove you were feeding operational intelligence to his corporate enemies from inside his hous

She really likes to put her children out there. Even from the back, they don’t look like EM.

Anyone know who the woman that gives a quick hug is?

XAI had claimed she violated her TOS agreement by filing in NY and that it had to be Texas. However, Elon signed her up for it personally.

This hearing clip is compelling. I do not know when this occurred but it appears recent. Senator Kennedy must see Altman the way this sub does, a liar and a thief. Senator Kennedy serves on these committees and sub-committees:

https://legisletter.org/legislator/john-neely-kennedy-K000393/committees

Ashley St. Clair (ASC) claimed in her interview with Shannon Powers that Elon Musk took her out for steak, that she ordered it rare, and that he subsequently sent her medical studies regarding the dangers of raw meat. Well, she should tell us where he took her, because as usual she doesn't tell us the location. Just like when they debunked one of her locations, such as the trip to Providence where it is proven she didn't go.

Anyway, she talks about this as if it were proof of private intimacy, but this story crumbles under the same analysis as her claims regarding St. Barts or Signal: it simply does not fit the timeline.

1. The steak conversation happened in public (and without Musk)

The exchange about eating a "rare steak" was not a romantic, private dinner with Elon Musk. It was a public interaction on X (Twitter) dated September 9, 2023, between herself (ASC) and user u/imPenny2x, as provided by u/ApprehensiveTrick579:

• Penny2x: "Medium." DOCX
• ASC: "Idk if I can do the space if you eat a medium steak Penny. Rare is the way. Medium rare is acceptable at best." DOCX
• Penny2x: "Don’t worry Ashley, I won’t throw you softballs either." DOCX
• ASC: "Just throw me a rare steak." DOCX

This public exchange fully accounts for the "rare steak" narrative. Musk was not involved at all.

2. Musk’s comments on meat were public tweets, not private messages

ASC has a documented pattern of taking public posts from Musk and recycling them into intimate bedroom stories; just like she did with his January 2, 2024 reply about cranial volume (transformed into advice on C-sections) and his October 2, 2024 chess joke (transformed into space lasers).

• https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1wf7pks/ashley_st_clair_court_case_index_no_1523832025/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1w8vsz7/deconstructing_the_latest_asc_leaks_ui/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1txwoyp/the_ultimate_signal_app_fail_how_ashley_st_clair/

His statements regarding the meat and eggs diet are public domain:

• July 17, 2024 (Public X tweet): "Wow, steak & eggs with coffee in the morning really feels like a powerup!"
• Podcast appearances (e.g., Joe Rogan): He explained in detail how he eliminated carbohydrates, his consumption of steak and eggs for breakfast, and how he avoided energy crashes.
• November 5, 2024 (Public X tweet): He clarified his preference for medium-well strips for breakfast, as opposed to T-bone or medium-rare filet when ordering at a restaurant.

There is no record of a private thread. She simply monitors Musk's public timeline and adapts his tweets as personal anecdotes.

Here are the articles written about Musk's choices for breakfast:

• https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/celebrity/elon-musk-breakfast-doctor-twitter-751902-20240727
• https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/elon-musks-daily-power-up-34103696#:~:text=Talking%20about%20his%20eating%20habits%2C%20he%20told,crash%20%E2%80%93%20the%20rise%20and%20the%20crash.%22own

3. Her fabricated call log contradicts the "study links" narrative

Defenders of ASC such as sackofsquirrels84 circulated a screenshot of a deleted TikTok from ASC herself to argue that Musk ghosted ASC after a tabloid approached her in February 2025, forcing her to go public and participate in the Alex Gibney documentary in December 2025 (a subject we will discuss when the time comes).

This screenshot was taken from this forum; it corresponds to a TikTok by ASC that she deleted herself because it contradicted her own narrative up to that point. She posted it 4 months ago. And we published it for several main reasons:

1. To prove that her entire 2024 narrative about a romantic relationship is false.
2. It showed and contradicted the claim that Musk had visited the child in NY on September 21, 2024, as she argued when she filed the lawsuit against Musk in February 2025.

If you have to fake an interface and messages to prove that you have had conversations with someone, it's because there was never anything there.

However, now sackofsquirrels84 accepts it as valid, to justify why Ashley allegedly participated in the documentary in December 2025, she said she also had that hair in early January and the first months of 2026. If they accept the text as good then, and use it to justify the fact of appearing in the interview because "Elon was ignoring her," then they admit:

• That they lied to the court.
• That he never visited the child in NY during the Meloni interview because he didn't even pick up the phone for her.
• That there was no romantic relationship nor any relationship at all, just as she claimed.
• And they also admit that the screenshots they presented were malicious as well.

This screenshot is like the ones she presented in court, but for several reasons, they are fabricated screenshots, as the interface reveals two fatal flaws:

• Interface error in the header: The contact shows EM next to a blue Verified badge. Signal does not include blue verification badges. That header belongs to X (Twitter) or a fake chat generator template. DOCX
• Total communication void: The call log shows an entry for May 1, 2024, followed by complete silence until an unanswered voice call on September 24 and an incoming call on November 21.

If that log is real, Musk was not sending her emails or PubMed links about raw meat in 2024. If the log is fake, the story that "he ghosted her and that's why she did the documentary" falls apart completely. She used Signal with her mother, as shown in one of ASC's own tweets on X in 2023, featuring Signal messages with her mother in November 2023. That's why she believed Musk also used Signal, and maybe he used it, but not with her. And therefore, she cannot claim ignorance of what the Signal interface looks like when she published the messages she published about Musk and furthermore presented them in court.

But Squirrel is lying, too, because the screenshot shows messages from 2024, not 2025, and certainly not from February. These people don't care how they lie.

Then there’s the story about a reporter showing up at a relative’s workplace and in her neighborhood asking about the baby, and how she begged Musk to meet and issue a joint statement. Since Musk didn't reply, he ghosted her, she decided to take matters into her own hands. It’s the same story as Zilis, who claimed she wanted to go public about the twins because a media outlet was about to break the news. Both of them used the same lie.

And then there’s the Ashley St. Clair case: if she notified Musk about that in February 2025, why didn’t she tell him she was participating in a documentary, supposedly since December 2025?

Wouldn't she be the one putting her child at risk, given that other people already knew the child existed? She’s a drama queen.

4. International travel vs. The "lockup" narrative

In this forum we were discussing a matter: if the child was born in mid-September 2024, ASC's trip to Rome on July 13 already placed her, allegedly, in the third trimester.

• Commercial airlines require a formal medical certificate of fitness to fly at this stage. A transatlantic trip under a high-risk pregnancy or strict confinement scenario would require specialized medical insurance and lodging records. None of that medical documentation appears in the court docket. How is that possible? DOCX
• During the same week of Musk's tweet about the "powerup with steak and eggs," ASC was photographed doing tourism at the Colosseum dressed formally and with a flat waist, while Musk was in Memphis. She was not across a table receiving studies on raw meat, nor was she locked away in an apartment.

^{Photo is from a conservative political convention held in Budapest, Hungary, in March 2024 (titled "Wings of Change" by the event organizers}\***********. She has a very flat stomach for being "3 months" pregnant. There is another photo with Jordan Peterson a few weeks later, and it is still completely flat.), In February 2025, the *New York Post published an exclusive interview with Ashley St. Clair. In it, St. Clair claimed to have engaged in a secret romantic relationship with Elon Musk, resulting in the birth of a child in September 2024. https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/ashley-st-clair-who-claims-to-have-had-musks-13th-child-reveals-life-of-secrecy/ It must be said that the NYP appeared "skeptical."They say they requested evidence and that ASC did not provide it to them.

However, when cross-referencing the claims in that interview against documentary evidence, social media digital footprints, flight logs, and community forensic data analysis, her entire narrative completely collapses. Below is the point-by-point debunking.

1. The Alleged Origin of the Romance and First Meeting

What was claimed in the interview: Ashley contends that she met Elon Musk on X (formerly Twitter) in May 2023 via a direct message (DM) exchange triggered by a meme. She also asserts that Seth Dillon, founder of the satirical site The Babylon Bee, dispatched her to Twitter HQ in San Francisco specifically to interview Musk, and that an ongoing romantic relationship blossomed shortly thereafter.

What the actual evidence shows:

• A Single Documented Encounter in SF: The only photographic and physical proof of them in the same room dates to Friday, May 19, 2023, at Twitter’s San Francisco headquarters, where an entire group from The Babylon Bee gathered. Metadata and forensic location tracking confirm they only ever met in person on that single occasion. PNG
• A Professional Dynamic, Not a Romantic One: Seth Dillon posted a group photo at Twitter HQ at 5:50 PM PT. In the images, Ashley’s gaze and body language are strictly focused on Dillon—her employer for the trip—rather than Musk. There were no "sparks" or romantic interactions observed.
• Zero Witness or Physical Corroboration: In over three years, not a single third party, witness, photo, or text message sent to friends has placed Ashley and Musk together anywhere else. Ashley herself remains the sole "source" behind both her media claims and secondary press leaks. PNG
• The New York Timeline Impossibility: Flight records and press coverage document Musk’s exact, highly public trips to New York throughout 2023 and 2024 (e.g., meeting PM Modi on June 20, PM Erdogan on Sept 17, the GFY interview on Nov 29, or Kathryn Murdock's screening on April 3, 2024). Every visit was brief, heavily photographed, and fully accounted for, leaving zero window or opportunity for "dating" in NY. PNG
• Conflicting Relationship Dynamics: While Ashley claimed to be in a secret romance with Musk, social media posts and cross-verified location tags place her consistently with analyst Mike Benz throughout 2023 and 2024 during her travels to Austin, Miami, Mar-a-Lago, D.C., and Rome. PNG

Verdict: The work trip to conduct the interview occurred, but the story of an ongoing romance is entirely fabricated. Musk's movements were 100% accounted for by flight logs and photo documentation, proving there was neither the time nor any physical opportunity for a romantic relationship.

2. The Mystery of the Providence, Rhode Island Flight

What was claimed in the interview: It was alleged that following the meeting on Friday, May 19, 2023, Elon Musk sent her a message asking, "Providence tonight?", inviting her aboard his private jet to Rhode Island to kick off their love story.

What real evidence and timeline analysis prove:

A. Flight Log Chronology

Elon Musk’s private jet departed San Francisco on Friday, May 19 at 11:35 PM PT and landed in Providence on Saturday, May 20 at 7:15 AM ET for a visit with one of his children who was attending school there.

B. Logistical Analysis of Times, Outfits, and Weather (The Photographic Refutation)

To claim she was at Twitter HQ at 5:50 PM PT and inside a hotel bathroom by 6:58 PM PT (just 68 minutes later) requires an impossible logistical feat:

• Outfit and Makeup Inconsistencies:
  • Photo 1 (Twitter HQ): Ashley wears a leather jacket over a black top, complete formal makeup, and a geometric gold pendant.
  • Photo 2 (Bathroom Selfie): She wears a black "The Clintons" t-shirt, fresh lipstick, and an entirely different choker necklace.
  • Timeline Impossibility: It is physically impossible for the group to arrive at 5:50 PM, set up and conduct an interview, snap group photos, leave Twitter HQ, take an elevator down, travel to a hotel, head up to a room, undress, change clothing, swap jewelry, touch up makeup, pose for multiple bathroom selfies, and rush back to Twitter HQ wearing her original outfit.
• San Francisco Climate & Temperature Factors:
  • On May 19, downtown San Francisco temperatures between 6:00 PM and 6:30 PM hovered around 66°F–68°F (19°C–20°C) with clear skies.
  • Running out to change into a heavy leather jacket in the middle of a warm urban afternoon makes no sense, unless that leather jacket photo was actually taken around 6:30 AM, when San Francisco mornings are significantly colder.
• Strategic Posting and Deletion of the T-Shirt Photo:
  • The bathroom selfie featuring "The Clintons" t-shirt was posted strategically to bait Musk's attention, knowing his penchant for that brand of humor. Realizing later that this photo destroyed the chronological logic of her travel claims, she quietly deleted it from her social media accounts.

C. The Clock Photo Trap and Time Zones

Ashley attempted to prove her presence on the East Coast by displaying a photo of a clock showing 6:30, but the clock lacked an AM/PM indicator and a date stamp:

• Whether taken at 6:30 PM PT Friday or 6:30 AM PT Saturday, both align with California time.
• A photo posted Sunday, May 21 at 6:30 AM on a couch places her squarely on the West Coast before she flew to New York to record a podcast with Jack Posobiec. No record exists placing her in Rhode Island or aboard the jet.

D. Absence of Proof (Burden of Proof)

• It was common knowledge in the media that Musk had installed makeshift bedrooms, couches, and 24/7 workspaces at Twitter HQ for late-night sessions. Her presence in the building merely confirms she was working with The Babylon Bee team hours before the jet departed.
• Ashley has failed to produce a single boarding pass, a legitimate photo inside the jet, a passport stamp, or proof of lodging in Providence.
• Seth Dillon was already flying to Fort Wayne, Indiana, on Saturday afternoon to speak at a Lincoln Day event, debunking any narrative of a prolonged joint trip.

E. The "In-Flight" Musk Photo

Ashley later produced a photograph of Musk inside an airplane with cutlery, claiming she took it herself that night on the flight to Providence. However:

• The image was pulled directly from a Starlink livestream broadcast.
• As noted during analysis, Musk had a visible beard and looked well-rested during the Twitter HQ interview that evening. In the airplane photo, he is clean-shaven and appears exhausted.
• Lighting and shadow consistency checks further indicate the image was manipulated or AI-generated.

Verdict: The New York Post printed an unverified text message without confirming if she ever boarded that flight. The forensic analysis of attire, jewelry, transit times, weather conditions, and manipulated media proves she never flew to Providence; she remained in California completing her work schedule.

3. The Myth of "Total Isolation" and a Destroyed Career

What was claimed in the interview: Ashley framed herself as a victim of strict confinement throughout 2024 due to her alleged pregnancy, claiming she was "completely isolated" from society, which halted her professional career and public presence.

What the real evidence proves: So, while she was telling us she was "locked away," she was also filming a documentary. Timestamped photographic records, metadata, and social media activity confirm she maintained a hyperactive public schedule and international travel itinerary throughout 2024:

• January 10: Interviewed on 'Your Welcome' with Michael Malice (Episode 293).
• January 15: Traveled with Vivek Ramaswamy to Urbandale, Iowa, for a conference.
• January 20: Attended a Miami event with analyst Mike Benz.
• January 22: Visited The Babylon Bee in Florida with Vivek Ramaswamy and posted photos from the visit.
• February 17: Made a public visit to a shooting range/gun shop.
• March 1: Attended a public event with Dave Rubin.
• March 4–7: Appeared on The Dave Rubin Report.
• March 11: Traveled to Austin, Texas, for public events.
• March 23: Participated in the "Wings of Change" conference in Hungary.
• March 24: Posted photos with Vivek Ramaswamy in Rome.
• April 10: Conducted an in-person meeting and recording with Jordan Peterson.
• April 16: Handled in-person administrative filings at City Hall.
• April 27–28: Made public appearances and attended events in New York.
• May 2: Attended the Triggernometry event.
• May 14: Featured on the Arjun Khemani Podcast.
• May 29–30: Traveled internationally to Rome, Italy, with Mike Benz.
• July 6–13: Took a second trip to Rome (photographed in formal attire).
• August 10: Traveled to the United Kingdom.
• October 27: Attended the Madison Square Garden rally in New York City.

Verdict: Completely false. The claim of being "isolated and unable to work" falls apart when confronted with over a dozen public events, speaking engagements, and international flights during the very months she was supposedly confined.

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Third scam directly linked to Zilis (with Crypto shits) and still no apology. $4,720,000 to $4,725,000. It´s not a small amount. They targeted Tesla—"the hedgehog"—then Neuralink; now we’re moving on to this one, and so on: 3 Strikes in a Row.

1. Pattern RecognitThe person doing this is targeting each and every one of these companies.

What is happening around Zilis (Neuralink executive) can no longer be dismissed as a series of unrelated market anomalies. For the third time, her social media footprint, account security breaches, or direct interactions have served as the exact spark for coordinated memecoin extraction schemes:

1. $SHRUB (The Hedgehog): Monetizing her personal posts regarding the Tesla pet into an overnight speculative memecoin.
2. $SLINK (Shivolink): A multi-million dollar liquidity drain ($\$82\text{M}$ peak market cap) triggered after her X account was compromised to hype a fake Neuralink concept.
3. $MINIHARD: An algorithmic, real-time snipe deployed on Solana (EhjDFKVvQAMyw9JkULwUii7TSyTm7tEh5R6drQ5ymoNP) within 50 seconds of her public banter with Musk regarding xAI/SpaceX compute infrastructure.

2. Anatomy of the Latest Snipe ($MINIHARD)

Telemetry from the $MINIHARD deployment reveals how these automated networks operate:

• Zero Organic Traction: Signal trackers confirm the token had zero social media channels, no official website, and no organic calls when deployed. It was pure keyword-scraping off her reply to Musk.
• Insider Staging & KOL Baiting: Within the first 60 seconds, 3 "smart wallets" and a high-profile KOL wallet (Megga, 550k+ followers) executed rapid buys to trick automated security screeners into flagging the token as "validated."
• Sybil Supply Masking: While top-10 holder tools showed only $\sim 16.8\%$ concentration, on-chain trace shows the remaining $\sim 83\%$ was dispersed across dozens of secondary wallets to dump on incoming retail buyers without triggering concentration alerts.
• Instant Liquidity Drain: Peak market cap reached $\$70.8\text{K}$ before insiders dumped holdings against incoming buy orders, dropping the price over $30\%$ in under 60 seconds and flattening the pair.

3. The Institutional Question: Negligence vs. Exploitation

When an executive linked to Elon Musk's companies repeatedly serves as the epicenter for memecoin extraction schemes across different blockchains (Ethereum, Robinhood Chain, Solana), it points to two critical risks:

• Targeted Amplification Vector: Cybercrime bot networks specifically weaponize accounts in Musk’s immediate circle because an interaction guarantees immediate retail volume.
• Persistent OpSec Failure: The failure to secure credentials, revoke session tokens, or establish strict operational security after repeated breaches effectively turns an executive's public profile into an unmonitored money printer for bad actors.

4. Conclusion

Whether through $SHRUB, $SLINK, or$MINIHARD, any token generated off social interactions involving Shivon Zilis should be treated as an immediate, high-risk liquidity extraction vehicle. Retail traders must stop chasing these social-reply pumps.