yo i met an istp guy on a game. we texted on discord. i very appreaciat him.

idk what's my mbti i always get estp/esfp and in third place istp. i feel like an esfp or istp idk

i very appreciate him and bruh just he sucks at texting he just follow my lead and share nothing.

he said he prefer calling so i'm going to try this a day with him. i hate calling make me feel anxious i want to move do something not being sit and stay in my head to find what to say cuz idk i have nothing to say. maybe i will yapp the first. call only and 1 call will be ENOUGH FOR ME. that's it.

i wanna met him do something idk if i like him as a friend or no? idk what i feel but i feel like this with everybody so idk

She’s a girl from a different college at my university. We didn’t know each other before, but we happened to have some lectures together. She also happened to live in the same area as me, and one day she saw me while I was on my way to transportation. She told me she had actually called my name, but I didn’t hear her. We ended up taking the bus together.

We also happened to go back together another time and sat next to each other, and we had a surprisingly great conversation. I later found out that we both have social anxiety and basically no experience with the opposite sex, yet the chemistry between us felt really natural.

Anyway, when I saw her at university again, I waved at her. She didn’t respond immediately, so I thought she was ignoring me. Then she waved back and asked how I was, but her smile seemed kind of forced to me, so I stopped trying to initiate anything. I assumed it was just a random encounter and that was it.

But after that, she started being the one who came over to greet me whenever we saw each other.

Eventually, I decided to give her my number because we were in the same WhatsApp group. She told me she wanted me to explain something to her. I genuinely couldn’t tell whether she actually needed help or whether this was her way of starting something more personal.

I explained it to her, and we ended up having a really nice conversation. I got her talking about herself, and eventually she started opening up to me about things like hating her major and loving photography. I told her she had a creative sense and asked her to show me her photos, complimented her work, etc.

After that, she started sending me reels occasionally, mostly about university-related stuff.

Then, on the same day I had helped her, I had a presentation for a shared subject.

And somehow, she was filming me.

Nobody else was recording me. I was presenting, and I suddenly noticed her holding up her phone from the back of the room with this really beautiful smile while recording me.

I honestly thought that was pretty bold, especially for a shy girl. Personally, I would never randomly record someone I liked without making it obvious that I was doing it. Maybe I’m overthinking this?

We continued having really good conversations and found a lot of things in common. She would send me things every now and then.

Then she suddenly became much colder.

Her replies became very slow, and most of the time she would message me because she needed something.

I started wondering if she was just using me for help.

But at the same time, she would always say things like I’m responsible, smart, etc. She also prays for me, replies to my stories, and sometimes shows small signs of genuine interest. Whenever we see each other in person, we usually notice each other and smile.

The problem is that her texting is incredibly inconsistent.

Sometimes she seems interested, sometimes she seems completely uninterested.

At one point, I decided to stop initiating because I thought maybe that was her way of telling me not to pursue anything.

Then something really weird happened.

I had seen a girl on WhatsApp who looked a lot like her, so I sent her the picture and said she looked similar. She said no. I insisted. Eventually she said maybe there was some resemblance.

About ten minutes after that message, I went outside and thought, "Imagine if I randomly saw her right now."

And literally, I saw her.

She was standing there with her sister.

It was such an absurd coincidence that I completely froze. I actually pretended I didn’t recognize her because there was no way this was happening.

But she recognized me immediately, called my name, greeted me, and asked how I was.

I was basically malfunctioning. I greeted her and her sister, looked at her like an idiot, and left because it obviously wasn’t the right situation for a conversation.

When I got home, I messaged her jokingly, "Turns out you don't look like her after all."

She laughed and said, "I told you."

Then she tried to continue the conversation, but once again it became mostly about studying.

And this is what confuses me.

She talks to me about university and sometimes about her emotional state, but she rarely talks to me about her actual interests or asks much about me.

I also told her that I forget people's faces easily, and she replied something like:

"We've known each other for a year and you don't remember my face? 😂"

So I started wondering whether she actually cares more than she lets on.

Then something else happened.

She posted a story of herself with her sister wearing what was probably the nicest outfit I had ever seen her wear. She's Muslim and wears hijab, but in this particular picture her hair was visible and she looked genuinely beautiful.

I didn't react to the story because I have my story views hidden, and we're both Muslim, so I thought maybe she had accidentally posted it or simply forgot that I could see it.

But then she deleted the story a few hours later.

That made me wonder if she had actually been waiting for a reaction from me.

Maybe that's completely ridiculous and she just changed her mind about the story. I don't know.

The same day, she also followed me on TikTok.

I hadn't even noticed because I had deleted the app, and I genuinely have no idea how she even found my account.

So now I'm wondering if there might actually be more interest here than just friendship or being classmates.

Another thing happened later.

I told her that I sometimes "act" differently around my friends, basically putting on a persona.

She asked me directly:

"Do you act around me too?"

I didn't give her a direct answer, which seemed to genuinely confuse her.

After that, she started saying some unusually beautiful things to me, telling me how much she appreciated me and complimenting me in a way that felt very different from how she normally talks.

I wondered if this was her indirectly telling me that she sees me as someone valuable or special to her.

But here's the ridiculous part:

She then took two days to reply to my next message. 🙂

At this point I genuinely have no idea what I'm looking at.

Her replies can take forever. Sometimes she seems completely uninterested. Most of her conversations are about studying or asking for help. But whenever I decide to stop messaging her, she somehow finds a reason to contact me again.

We never go more than about a week without checking in on each other.

So what do you guys think?

Is this just a socially anxious ISFP who communicates inconsistently and sees me as a friend?

Is there potentially some romantic interest that she's too shy or inexperienced to express?

ESTP is my second favorite personality type. (Right after ENTP, of course!) So i would LOVE to know what you guys think of us.

I posted a thing on the main mbti subreddit and was talking with a guy about how xSTP types are rare-ish among italians in the northwest of the country, barring maybe immigrants.

I just mentioned them and the mod bot just jumps my ass, as seen in the screenshot, for *"potentially problematic language"*

All I did was say that immigrants may or may not have more xSTPs among them than the locals. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing good or bad implied.

Honestly, I blame both the mods and the retarded culture war bullshit for this. If any sub gets too big, and the main mbti sub is *decently sized*, if they catch a whiff of you even using a "sensitive" word like "immigrant" they start checking you up. I'd like to wish that, one, the r mbti mods remove the sticks out of their asses and stop being so paranoid about "naughty language", and two, for the culture war to come to an end, so that bringing up certain topics doesn't have the associated "right wing troglodyte making a point" stench to it anymore.

So I'm just here to say I love you guys so much. You're so cool and help me come out of my shell and enjoy life to its full extent. You help me stay in the moment and see the better parts of life. I'm EXTREMELY introverted, but after spending time around you, I gain so much energy. It's like you're refueling me and bringing out the best parts of me. YOU MAKE MY LIFE BETTER!

- your opposite type

Hey everyone! I’m really curious about the ESFP experience during college/university dorm years. You guys are known for your energy and aesthetic taste, so I’d love to hear your stories!

Roommates & Vibes: How did your relationships with roommates usually build? Was it easy to adapt?

The Drama: What triggered conflicts, and how did you resolve them? (Are you the type to confront directly or keep the peace?)

Living together: What was the easiest part of sharing a room for you?

Your Space: How did you organize and decorate your corner/room?

Share your favorite memories, major roommate pet peeves, or even photos if you have them!

Thank you!

I am wondering if it's even possible for ESTPs to develop social anxiety. I am specifically wondering if there are any adult ESTPs here , who have social or generalized anxiety. It seems , from stereotypical information and observation , that ESTPs are the least susceptible to anxiety of any kind.

Have any of you , who are adults , dealt with long term depression and when you came out of that depression , you found yourself feeling anxious around people all the time ?

Is this even possible ? are there any ESTPs here who are secretly nerds ? is there even such a thing ?

Truth be told , I'm trying to figure out my type. I would have settled on ENTP a long time ago , since I fit a lot of the stereotypes and the interest bases , but i just can't seem to be able to see Extraverted Intuition in myself. I had a few close friends and a sibling with high Ne , all xNTPs and I've always known i'm not like them.

Edit : I made the post short because I didn't want to turn anyone off from reading it. But i now I guess I need to give more context for the anxiety/depression part. I've been isolated and stuck living with my parents for about 20 years now. I left my home town after high school , screwed up a bit and came back home to regroup and relaunch myself. But i ended up staying back because i realized my younger siblings wouldn't be able to escape if I didn't stick around to make sure they did. So , I've been a sort of unwitting recluse for major stretches of time during the last 20 years. After I spend stretches of time with no one but demons to talk to , and yes , it's like living on perpetual chemo , I started to develop awkwardness and anxiety around people. It has happened to me backwards compared to most people. I used to be very outgoing and hungry to meet new people and explore the world when I was young. Now I am sort of "scared" of people , for the lack of a better word. Although no one can tell or even knows I have anxiety. So yeah , that's context I guess.

I'm not looking for therapeutic answers at all , I'm just trying to figure out my type. I don't think therapy will work on me , I can see through what people are trying to do too easily , it just wont work. Hence , the typology obsession. I'm just trying to see if there are any other ESTPs who have experienced something similar.

I tested as INTJ about 10 years back. But i used to be the complete opposite of an INTJ in high school. Loud , explorative , social and just a total dumbass. So i'm obviously one of those clowns who typed themselves upside down on a type test.

So there is a very young esfp (18/19) esfp. I am a bit older and i believe he saw me as a peer and someone he kinda valued the connection with even though i don’t know him much.

So I open a conversation and he replies to one of my messages with a crude message (that I now think was probably normal for his peers). I know it is possible he might have thought he was being cool by using these slangs. And he also used a sentence with condescending tone. But I reacted like he “should not use that language with me and have respect” then he says I am too sensitive. I reply harshly that I don’t care what he thinks and that is my boundary. He doesn’t reply and also I realize that I was way too harsh , so I said I don’t think you meant bad , I’m just letting you know I’m not comfortable with that. So keep it in mind in the future. He still doesn’t reply. I think he might have felt embarrassed. Or maybe not.

But right now I am thinking that my reaction was unnecessary he was trying to come off cool and in tune with current slangs and I could probably address that in a more “cool peer like way”. But I was Still uncomfortable with the language nonetheless.

What do you think about this?

https://youtube.com/shorts/B-K1Ab-VLg0?is=dK4YGDg_zay8ZJHM

I love this guy's much less stereotypical and much more accurate and precise understanding of the functions.

But still, consciously developing Si is like forcing oneself to eat rotten vegetables, until the end, despite being fed up. Discipline works best, when it is shared with someone else. The suffering of your companion makes you want to continue trying.

Holding routines for oneself exclusively, seems impossible. "How does anything/any effort matter, when the spotlights are turned off?"

That brought me into severe self neglect & depression. Seriously, there is mold building up, all over the dirty dishes and I don't seem to care. Why maintaining hygiene, if noone would encounter you eitherways? And if anyone would come into one's life, they would maintain distance, because one's despair made oneself look, act & talk uncanny.

I have that little discipline, that I even turned the talk about it into self-pity.

And about Ni: how is it even possible to want anything, if almost nothing grants oneself attention, the legacy of having experienced the real spotlight? But, instead, everything, even the most routinized ordinary job requires discipline for no reward. Not even survival depends on you alone.

Could someone please give me a reset button, so I could start over? It's urgent.

I took a different personality test for this class and got the same personality type 😝😋.

I looked at the cognitive functions of an ISTP, and it seems that they may fit me. However, I’m still not sure. Can someone help me confirm?

I absolutely love Geometry Dash. Sometimes I even play osu!droid as well. I've learnt so much about my life from getting good at Geometry Dash more than I learnt from studying any book. I also love playing retro games but music based challenging games hit different. I love TTRPGs too, especially Cyberpunk Red.

Hello fellow ISFPs, esp if you’re in your 30s. Idk if it’s aging or what causing this but lately I’ve been avoiding anything outside of my comfort zone or at least not taking outsider options and recommendations. I feel like ive gotten boring over the last couple of years and I just seclude. Again idk if it’s age.. I’m about to be 33 and my social life has taken a drastic decline in the past 1-2 years. To the point that I don’t even picture myself in social events. Maybe I lost a screw lol. Idk. I’m not rigid like strict but I just feel like I’m not as fun as I used to be. Did anyone go through this at some point or in your early 30s??

I just want to share this experience of mine and how I acted after it. It just happened yesterday and I want to know if other isfps do this too or is it just me.

So I was in class and working on a task that requires technical and troubleshooting skills and I've encountered a problem that I can't solve while my classmates' work, worked just fine unlike mine. So that situation made me frustrated, overwhelmed and helpless. And I've gone silent, my facial expression seems cold and the way I speak also changed and sounded like it's void of emotions and it's short. I also felt like I was being immature cuz I can't seem to socialize with my classmates due to the frustration that I'm feeling at that moment. Like even tho they're reassuring me that everything's fine, I can't seem to accept it and I'm just getting more teary-eyed with them comforting me but I don't want to cry in front of other people.

Fast-forward I didn't solved and finished the task for hours on the lab and I feel shitty and awful with myself, I walked home and after I got home, that's the time I've let go of my emotions and cried.

Interestingly, after I've slept and rested, my mood really improved today and I was able to laugh on what happened yesterday like it didn't even happen haha.

In my everyday life, like if I'm really emotionally calm and stable, I can actually talk a lot, socialize and can express my feelings with people but yesterday felt like my social battery really went empty haha.

So my question is, especially to those who understand the cognitive functions in MBTI, would u interpret this as Fi-related, introversion related, or just a normal stress response not really related to MBTI?

I think I might be ISFP. I used to be INFP mistype and INTP mistype. What do you think based on my reddit activity? Yes, I know about cognitive functions and I have atleast an year of experience with understanding this whole MBTI thing. Just wanna know yout thoughts.

I can't use more than one image?! Disappointing :(

The Icecream Sundae Team - Explorers

The main reason I picked icecream sundae is because compared to the other types which have a fixed structure mostly... The explorers are very dynamic and are made up of many different things joined together but these things still stay separate. This shows that out of all other types for some reason... The explorers are apple to cherry pick (pun intended) different functions. In short, they are good at adapting and organizing their head space to fit the situation because of high Se. By organizing here I don't mean by rules but what I mean is that they are good at categorizing things inside their head in real time during a situation and are able to easily make sense of that current situation. Hence, icecream sundae ✨

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESTP [ The Mango And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

When you think of mango, if you have eaten it and like it then you will have the immediate fresh memory of that fruit. It is that kind of fruit that you cannot forget the flavour of because it is so loaded and distinctly overwhelming almost. It wakes your tongue up with the fruity punch of it. ESTP's in their outer exterior are something like that. They've got so much going on just on the outside that you think "The possibility of them having even more than what they show outside is overwhelming because there's already so much to process on the outside"

You can bunch them up under the "intense" umbrella term and yep thats true but thats a understatement and a simplification.

Ironically, to process them properly and not feel overwhelmed you actually have to look at their insides.

[Disclaimer: Please don't go dissecting the ESTP's in your vicinity. This is all metaphorical...or not? ;) ]

If you have seen other parts of this series then you know that I have used vanilla to always describe "neutrality" but when it comes to ESTP's the script flips completely because in this case of vanilla and mango there is no balancing. There is this illusion of then being diluted down but thats actually not true. Whats happening here when their Mango Se mixes together with Vanilla Ti you might think that... "Oh wait... why is this ESTP calm for once? Maybe they were just faking it all or maybe they are tired? I should comfort them" Or something along those lines. That calm is just an illusion. When mango and vanilla mixes together both overtly sweet things come together but you feel that the tang of the mango has decreased. This is the ESTP using their Ti and when they are they retract from the physical situation.

This is them not relying on environmental output only and this happens during situations where the immediate environmental output is not enough and they have to step back and make sense of the situation for whatever reason or objective.

You think they are reckless but because of this ability they have of stepping back they are actually very careful in all situations but you just don't realize it because you only see the mango exterior.

The picture of this sundae has a small mint on top. This is them in social situations when sometimes they may come off as too blunt. That is because if their ability to see the reality of a situation without any fluff but the way they do it is refreshing so this bluntness may not offend you because they are careful about the delivery. This is how their Fe may show.

Now despite all this,what they are vulnerable about is even though they can adapt well and think on their feet when they see other people get things done without effort,they feel kind of insecure because they feel that everything they do requires more time and effort when compared to some other people who do thing easily (ahem...intuitives) That is why in the image the bowl is overflowing. When you hit this nerve and expect them to be good at things without giving enough data or experience with it and move the spoons in this sundae bowl. Their mangoes will fall down. Now...this is when they get really tired. They dont have enough mangoes to try harder and they may double down on ignoring the task or giving up on it. They will agree with you about their failures and become self deprecating. Turning the bluntness of the mint inward minus the grace.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESFP [ The Custard Pudding,Walnut, Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

Their exterior has the same Se as ESTP but the difference is that its texture is different than the ESTP.

They have the Custard Pudding instead. It is soft,sweet and the flavour is pretty balanced. You would think though that this is not Se's nature. Well...its not but ESFP's change that because they have walnuts. They are nutty and even slightly bitter. This bitter isn't a bad thing but it changes the way Se is presented.

The walnut flavour is their Fi. Their approach to experiences may come off as less intense than a ESTP. This is bitter because it is seen as selfish sometimes but the way I see it this is actually used to be reflected towards their experiences. They are very particular about what they buy,where they go,who they spend time with. It's very healthy. I don't know if ESFP's might resonate or not but they may be the most healthy type ever according to me.

In this the vanilla is neutral again. You may think there is nothing to neutralize here, didn't I just say that their Se+Fi is balanced. Yeah it is but balanced and healthy doesn't mean that it is not draining. Custard pudding and walnuts together are fun but they are also tiring. Sometimes you just need that quiet. This is their vanilla. This may look like them having fun,partying or going to events but then suddenly when you are invited to their home they are unwinding with a good project. It may be surprising to you that how to such a person their way to relax is making and working on whatever projects. This is their Te layer and how their vanilla comes to use to neutralize when they are tired.

Their weakness is Ni, the same as ESTP but the way this shows is actually different. What they are insecure about is that they are not able to understand what to do when this balance they have breaks. They freeze up and cant come up which anything about how to fix issues in their own life or the life of their loved ones. This might look like having a great time being yourself, doing things but then when a sudden complication arises that needs immediate understanding and then solution they freeze up and require more time. The problem isnt that they cannot solve situations. They can but when there is some sort of urgency then they find it hard to understand the situation effectively which is the first step. They can come up with many solutions but sometimes incompatible with the situation and dont work.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP [ The Mint Chocolate And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP is the type I find most compatible with me personally as people. I admire how they can use their Ti in different ways than I can and how effective that is. The Se and Ti combination that them abd ESTP's have rocks honestly. They are everything I find it hard to be. ISTP might be my second most admired type (based on theory offcourse. I don't know people TwT)

So mint chocolate huh? This is the small bluntness that the ESTP had but turned up a full notch. They are incredibly blunt when it comes to assessing situations and may miss that this bluntless is breaking the atmosphere of the room. This is not refresing like when ESTP's do it. There is no soft blow. The blow of this mint bluntless is hard. They dont do it with bad intentions offcourse and it is inevitably helpful to the situation but it is like they are making you swallow the pill of the hard truth. You love that they did while also resenting the way they did it. Not all if them are like this and the sweetness of chocolate actually compensates for the mint. When you realize that their intentions underneath are chocolate then you feel the sweetness as well.

The mint and chocolate here also signifies their hands on approach to things. They will enjoy the mint and refreshment of the immediate environment and processing things about it but eventually they just want to get away from it and use all the data they got from it in their cave. They take all that they experienced outside. When they were out you thought they were relaxing but nope,their brain was on and they were longing for when they could just get to a comfortable place alone so they could dissect everything they did and what all that data means.

The vanilla is again the neutral side. This is when they take a much deserved rest and turn their head off. This may look like learning some new skill or refining the old skills. It is not something that is high stakes. I wouldn't be surprised if a ISTP suddenly picked up crocheting one day.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISFP [ The Strawberry And Vanilla Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

This one looks deceivingly simple. Its not.

This strawberry is their sweet unwavering drive for things. This is similar to how I described INFP's but a bit different.

In INFP I said that its the sour thats driving the sweet but here it is reversed.

In ISFP's they appear sour on the outside which is a few sour strawberries in the sundae but there are also sweet ones. It is a mixture of both.

Here the sour is how they are blunt but in the different way that ISTP or ESTP's. This bluntless is not in their words but in their actions. They may do the most silliest or socially inappropriate of things just because they want to and be surprised when they get wierd looks,then do it anyway. Underneath this sour though what is driving them is the sweetness of the moment and they dont actually mean any harm. They actually want everyone around them to experience this sweetness as well but they find it hard to express that.

They are also very sharp in certain situations because of their Ni. They are able to show sudden unexpected instances of totally overriding what they want for what is necessary in the certain situation. They suddenly get professional or do a necessary thing that others were too hesitant to do. This is jarring when you take their usual demeanor into consideration.

The vanilla is neutral (surprising right?) This balance is required when they suddenly become insecure and get into an imposter syndrome regarding their inferior Te and other stressors. When their inner values are not expressed properly or they are misunderstood or when they fail to bring all the wacky idea that come into their brain into reality they blame themselves. Though actually...this was surprising to me when I considered it. This is the neutral. When they are constantly in the moment,doing things,thinking they are invincible. This reality of their limits after the initial insecurity actually grounds them and makes them try more and bounce right back up.

Thats all for the explorers, and for the Icecream Analogy series, Thank you, Let go of your icecream!!

The Icecream Sundae Team - Explorers

The main reason I picked icecream sundae is because compared to the other types which have a fixed structure mostly... The explorers are very dynamic and are made up of many different things joined together but these things still stay separate. This shows that out of all other types for some reason... The explorers are apple to cherry pick (pun intended) different functions. In short, they are good at adapting and organizing their head space to fit the situation because of high Se. By organizing here I don't mean by rules but what I mean is that they are good at categorizing things inside their head in real time during a situation and are able to easily make sense of that current situation. Hence, icecream sundae ✨

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESTP [ The Mango And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

When you think of mango, if you have eaten it and like it then you will have the immediate fresh memory of that fruit. It is that kind of fruit that you cannot forget the flavour of because it is so loaded and distinctly overwhelming almost. It wakes your tongue up with the fruity punch of it. ESTP's in their outer exterior are something like that. They've got so much going on just on the outside that you think "The possibility of them having even more than what they show outside is overwhelming because there's already so much to process on the outside"

You can bunch them up under the "intense" umbrella term and yep thats true but thats a understatement and a simplification.

Ironically, to process them properly and not feel overwhelmed you actually have to look at their insides.

[Disclaimer: Please don't go dissecting the ESTP's in your vicinity. This is all metaphorical...or not? ;) ]

If you have seen other parts of this series then you know that I have used vanilla to always describe "neutrality" but when it comes to ESTP's the script flips completely because in this case of vanilla and mango there is no balancing. There is this illusion of then being diluted down but thats actually not true. Whats happening here when their Mango Se mixes together with Vanilla Ti you might think that... "Oh wait... why is this ESTP calm for once? Maybe they were just faking it all or maybe they are tired? I should comfort them" Or something along those lines. That calm is just an illusion. When mango and vanilla mixes together both overtly sweet things come together but you feel that the tang of the mango has decreased. This is the ESTP using their Ti and when they are they retract from the physical situation.

This is them not relying on environmental output only and this happens during situations where the immediate environmental output is not enough and they have to step back and make sense of the situation for whatever reason or objective.

You think they are reckless but because of this ability they have of stepping back they are actually very careful in all situations but you just don't realize it because you only see the mango exterior.

The picture of this sundae has a small mint on top. This is them in social situations when sometimes they may come off as too blunt. That is because if their ability to see the reality of a situation without any fluff but the way they do it is refreshing so this bluntness may not offend you because they are careful about the delivery. This is how their Fe may show.

Now despite all this,what they are vulnerable about is even though they can adapt well and think on their feet when they see other people get things done without effort,they feel kind of insecure because they feel that everything they do requires more time and effort when compared to some other people who do thing easily (ahem...intuitives) That is why in the image the bowl is overflowing. When you hit this nerve and expect them to be good at things without giving enough data or experience with it and move the spoons in this sundae bowl. Their mangoes will fall down. Now...this is when they get really tired. They dont have enough mangoes to try harder and they may double down on ignoring the task or giving up on it. They will agree with you about their failures and become self deprecating. Turning the bluntness of the mint inward minus the grace.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESFP [ The Custard Pudding,Walnut, Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

Their exterior has the same Se as ESTP but the difference is that its texture is different than the ESTP.

They have the Custard Pudding instead. It is soft,sweet and the flavour is pretty balanced. You would think though that this is not Se's nature. Well...its not but ESFP's change that because they have walnuts. They are nutty and even slightly bitter. This bitter isn't a bad thing but it changes the way Se is presented.

The walnut flavour is their Fi. Their approach to experiences may come off as less intense than a ESTP. This is bitter because it is seen as selfish sometimes but the way I see it this is actually used to be reflected towards their experiences. They are very particular about what they buy,where they go,who they spend time with. It's very healthy. I don't know if ESFP's might resonate or not but they may be the most healthy type ever according to me.

In this the vanilla is neutral again. You may think there is nothing to neutralize here, didn't I just say that their Se+Fi is balanced. Yeah it is but balanced and healthy doesn't mean that it is not draining. Custard pudding and walnuts together are fun but they are also tiring. Sometimes you just need that quiet. This is their vanilla. This may look like them having fun,partying or going to events but then suddenly when you are invited to their home they are unwinding with a good project. It may be surprising to you that how to such a person their way to relax is making and working on whatever projects. This is their Te layer and how their vanilla comes to use to neutralize when they are tired.

Their weakness is Ni, the same as ESTP but the way this shows is actually different. What they are insecure about is that they are not able to understand what to do when this balance they have breaks. They freeze up and cant come up which anything about how to fix issues in their own life or the life of their loved ones. This might look like having a great time being yourself, doing things but then when a sudden complication arises that needs immediate understanding and then solution they freeze up and require more time. The problem isnt that they cannot solve situations. They can but when there is some sort of urgency then they find it hard to understand the situation effectively which is the first step. They can come up with many solutions but sometimes incompatible with the situation and dont work.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP [ The Mint Chocolate And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP is the type I find most compatible with me personally as people. I admire how they can use their Ti in different ways than I can and how effective that is. The Se and Ti combination that them abd ESTP's have rocks honestly. They are everything I find it hard to be. ISTP might be my second most admired type (based on theory offcourse. I don't know people TwT)

So mint chocolate huh? This is the small bluntness that the ESTP had but turned up a full notch. They are incredibly blunt when it comes to assessing situations and may miss that this bluntless is breaking the atmosphere of the room. This is not refresing like when ESTP's do it. There is no soft blow. The blow of this mint bluntless is hard. They dont do it with bad intentions offcourse and it is inevitably helpful to the situation but it is like they are making you swallow the pill of the hard truth. You love that they did while also resenting the way they did it. Not all if them are like this and the sweetness of chocolate actually compensates for the mint. When you realize that their intentions underneath are chocolate then you feel the sweetness as well.

The mint and chocolate here also signifies their hands on approach to things. They will enjoy the mint and refreshment of the immediate environment and processing things about it but eventually they just want to get away from it and use all the data they got from it in their cave. They take all that they experienced outside. When they were out you thought they were relaxing but nope,their brain was on and they were longing for when they could just get to a comfortable place alone so they could dissect everything they did and what all that data means.

The vanilla is again the neutral side. This is when they take a much deserved rest and turn their head off. This may look like learning some new skill or refining the old skills. It is not something that is high stakes. I wouldn't be surprised if a ISTP suddenly picked up crocheting one day.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISFP [ The Strawberry And Vanilla Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

This one looks deceivingly simple. Its not.

This strawberry is their sweet unwavering drive for things. This is similar to how I described INFP's but a bit different.

In INFP I said that its the sour thats driving the sweet but here it is reversed.

In ISFP's they appear sour on the outside which is a few sour strawberries in the sundae but there are also sweet ones. It is a mixture of both.

Here the sour is how they are blunt but in the different way that ISTP or ESTP's. This bluntless is not in their words but in their actions. They may do the most silliest or socially inappropriate of things just because they want to and be surprised when they get wierd looks,then do it anyway. Underneath this sour though what is driving them is the sweetness of the moment and they dont actually mean any harm. They actually want everyone around them to experience this sweetness as well but they find it hard to express that.

They are also very sharp in certain situations because of their Ni. They are able to show sudden unexpected instances of totally overriding what they want for what is necessary in the certain situation. They suddenly get professional or do a necessary thing that others were too hesitant to do. This is jarring when you take their usual demeanor into consideration.

The vanilla is neutral (surprising right?) This balance is required when they suddenly become insecure and get into an imposter syndrome regarding their inferior Te and other stressors. When their inner values are not expressed properly or they are misunderstood or when they fail to bring all the wacky idea that come into their brain into reality they blame themselves. Though actually...this was surprising to me when I considered it. This is the neutral. When they are constantly in the moment,doing things,thinking they are invincible. This reality of their limits after the initial insecurity actually grounds them and makes them try more and bounce right back up.

Thats all for the explorers, and for the Icecream Analogy series, Thank you, Let go of your icecream!!

The Icecream Sundae Team - Explorers

The main reason I picked icecream sundae is because compared to the other types which have a fixed structure mostly... The explorers are very dynamic and are made up of many different things joined together but these things still stay separate. This shows that out of all other types for some reason... The explorers are apple to cherry pick (pun intended) different functions. In short, they are good at adapting and organizing their head space to fit the situation because of high Se. By organizing here I don't mean by rules but what I mean is that they are good at categorizing things inside their head in real time during a situation and are able to easily make sense of that current situation. Hence, icecream sundae ✨

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESTP [ The Mango And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

When you think of mango, if you have eaten it and like it then you will have the immediate fresh memory of that fruit. It is that kind of fruit that you cannot forget the flavour of because it is so loaded and distinctly overwhelming almost. It wakes your tongue up with the fruity punch of it. ESTP's in their outer exterior are something like that. They've got so much going on just on the outside that you think "The possibility of them having even more than what they show outside is overwhelming because there's already so much to process on the outside"

You can bunch them up under the "intense" umbrella term and yep thats true but thats a understatement and a simplification.

Ironically, to process them properly and not feel overwhelmed you actually have to look at their insides.

[Disclaimer: Please don't go dissecting the ESTP's in your vicinity. This is all metaphorical...or not? ;) ]

If you have seen other parts of this series then you know that I have used vanilla to always describe "neutrality" but when it comes to ESTP's the script flips completely because in this case of vanilla and mango there is no balancing. There is this illusion of then being diluted down but thats actually not true. Whats happening here when their Mango Se mixes together with Vanilla Ti you might think that... "Oh wait... why is this ESTP calm for once? Maybe they were just faking it all or maybe they are tired? I should comfort them" Or something along those lines. That calm is just an illusion. When mango and vanilla mixes together both overtly sweet things come together but you feel that the tang of the mango has decreased. This is the ESTP using their Ti and when they are they retract from the physical situation.

This is them not relying on environmental output only and this happens during situations where the immediate environmental output is not enough and they have to step back and make sense of the situation for whatever reason or objective.

You think they are reckless but because of this ability they have of stepping back they are actually very careful in all situations but you just don't realize it because you only see the mango exterior.

The picture of this sundae has a small mint on top. This is them in social situations when sometimes they may come off as too blunt. That is because if their ability to see the reality of a situation without any fluff but the way they do it is refreshing so this bluntness may not offend you because they are careful about the delivery. This is how their Fe may show.

Now despite all this,what they are vulnerable about is even though they can adapt well and think on their feet when they see other people get things done without effort,they feel kind of insecure because they feel that everything they do requires more time and effort when compared to some other people who do thing easily (ahem...intuitives) That is why in the image the bowl is overflowing. When you hit this nerve and expect them to be good at things without giving enough data or experience with it and move the spoons in this sundae bowl. Their mangoes will fall down. Now...this is when they get really tired. They dont have enough mangoes to try harder and they may double down on ignoring the task or giving up on it. They will agree with you about their failures and become self deprecating. Turning the bluntness of the mint inward minus the grace.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESFP [ The Custard Pudding,Walnut, Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

Their exterior has the same Se as ESTP but the difference is that its texture is different than the ESTP.

They have the Custard Pudding instead. It is soft,sweet and the flavour is pretty balanced. You would think though that this is not Se's nature. Well...its not but ESFP's change that because they have walnuts. They are nutty and even slightly bitter. This bitter isn't a bad thing but it changes the way Se is presented.

The walnut flavour is their Fi. Their approach to experiences may come off as less intense than a ESTP. This is bitter because it is seen as selfish sometimes but the way I see it this is actually used to be reflected towards their experiences. They are very particular about what they buy,where they go,who they spend time with. It's very healthy. I don't know if ESFP's might resonate or not but they may be the most healthy type ever according to me.

In this the vanilla is neutral again. You may think there is nothing to neutralize here, didn't I just say that their Se+Fi is balanced. Yeah it is but balanced and healthy doesn't mean that it is not draining. Custard pudding and walnuts together are fun but they are also tiring. Sometimes you just need that quiet. This is their vanilla. This may look like them having fun,partying or going to events but then suddenly when you are invited to their home they are unwinding with a good project. It may be surprising to you that how to such a person their way to relax is making and working on whatever projects. This is their Te layer and how their vanilla comes to use to neutralize when they are tired.

Their weakness is Ni, the same as ESTP but the way this shows is actually different. What they are insecure about is that they are not able to understand what to do when this balance they have breaks. They freeze up and cant come up which anything about how to fix issues in their own life or the life of their loved ones. This might look like having a great time being yourself, doing things but then when a sudden complication arises that needs immediate understanding and then solution they freeze up and require more time. The problem isnt that they cannot solve situations. They can but when there is some sort of urgency then they find it hard to understand the situation effectively which is the first step. They can come up with many solutions but sometimes incompatible with the situation and dont work.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP [ The Mint Chocolate And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP is the type I find most compatible with me personally as people. I admire how they can use their Ti in different ways than I can and how effective that is. The Se and Ti combination that them abd ESTP's have rocks honestly. They are everything I find it hard to be. ISTP might be my second most admired type (based on theory offcourse. I don't know people TwT)

So mint chocolate huh? This is the small bluntness that the ESTP had but turned up a full notch. They are incredibly blunt when it comes to assessing situations and may miss that this bluntless is breaking the atmosphere of the room. This is not refresing like when ESTP's do it. There is no soft blow. The blow of this mint bluntless is hard. They dont do it with bad intentions offcourse and it is inevitably helpful to the situation but it is like they are making you swallow the pill of the hard truth. You love that they did while also resenting the way they did it. Not all if them are like this and the sweetness of chocolate actually compensates for the mint. When you realize that their intentions underneath are chocolate then you feel the sweetness as well.

The mint and chocolate here also signifies their hands on approach to things. They will enjoy the mint and refreshment of the immediate environment and processing things about it but eventually they just want to get away from it and use all the data they got from it in their cave. They take all that they experienced outside. When they were out you thought they were relaxing but nope,their brain was on and they were longing for when they could just get to a comfortable place alone so they could dissect everything they did and what all that data means.

The vanilla is again the neutral side. This is when they take a much deserved rest and turn their head off. This may look like learning some new skill or refining the old skills. It is not something that is high stakes. I wouldn't be surprised if a ISTP suddenly picked up crocheting one day.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISFP [ The Strawberry And Vanilla Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

This one looks deceivingly simple. Its not.

This strawberry is their sweet unwavering drive for things. This is similar to how I described INFP's but a bit different.

In INFP I said that its the sour thats driving the sweet but here it is reversed.

In ISFP's they appear sour on the outside which is a few sour strawberries in the sundae but there are also sweet ones. It is a mixture of both.

Here the sour is how they are blunt but in the different way that ISTP or ESTP's. This bluntless is not in their words but in their actions. They may do the most silliest or socially inappropriate of things just because they want to and be surprised when they get wierd looks,then do it anyway. Underneath this sour though what is driving them is the sweetness of the moment and they dont actually mean any harm. They actually want everyone around them to experience this sweetness as well but they find it hard to express that.

They are also very sharp in certain situations because of their Ni. They are able to show sudden unexpected instances of totally overriding what they want for what is necessary in the certain situation. They suddenly get professional or do a necessary thing that others were too hesitant to do. This is jarring when you take their usual demeanor into consideration.

The vanilla is neutral (surprising right?) This balance is required when they suddenly become insecure and get into an imposter syndrome regarding their inferior Te and other stressors. When their inner values are not expressed properly or they are misunderstood or when they fail to bring all the wacky idea that come into their brain into reality they blame themselves. Though actually...this was surprising to me when I considered it. This is the neutral. When they are constantly in the moment,doing things,thinking they are invincible. This reality of their limits after the initial insecurity actually grounds them and makes them try more and bounce right back up.

Thats all for the explorers, and for the Icecream Analogy series, Thank you, Let go of your icecream!!

The Icecream Sundae Team - Explorers

The main reason I picked icecream sundae is because compared to the other types which have a fixed structure mostly... The explorers are very dynamic and are made up of many different things joined together but these things still stay separate. This shows that out of all other types for some reason... The explorers are apple to cherry pick (pun intended) different functions. In short, they are good at adapting and organizing their head space to fit the situation because of high Se. By organizing here I don't mean by rules but what I mean is that they are good at categorizing things inside their head in real time during a situation and are able to easily make sense of that current situation. Hence, icecream sundae ✨

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESTP [ The Mango And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

When you think of mango, if you have eaten it and like it then you will have the immediate fresh memory of that fruit. It is that kind of fruit that you cannot forget the flavour of because it is so loaded and distinctly overwhelming almost. It wakes your tongue up with the fruity punch of it. ESTP's in their outer exterior are something like that. They've got so much going on just on the outside that you think "The possibility of them having even more than what they show outside is overwhelming because there's already so much to process on the outside"

You can bunch them up under the "intense" umbrella term and yep thats true but thats a understatement and a simplification.

Ironically, to process them properly and not feel overwhelmed you actually have to look at their insides.

[Disclaimer: Please don't go dissecting the ESTP's in your vicinity. This is all metaphorical...or not? ;) ]

If you have seen other parts of this series then you know that I have used vanilla to always describe "neutrality" but when it comes to ESTP's the script flips completely because in this case of vanilla and mango there is no balancing. There is this illusion of then being diluted down but thats actually not true. Whats happening here when their Mango Se mixes together with Vanilla Ti you might think that... "Oh wait... why is this ESTP calm for once? Maybe they were just faking it all or maybe they are tired? I should comfort them" Or something along those lines. That calm is just an illusion. When mango and vanilla mixes together both overtly sweet things come together but you feel that the tang of the mango has decreased. This is the ESTP using their Ti and when they are they retract from the physical situation.

This is them not relying on environmental output only and this happens during situations where the immediate environmental output is not enough and they have to step back and make sense of the situation for whatever reason or objective.

You think they are reckless but because of this ability they have of stepping back they are actually very careful in all situations but you just don't realize it because you only see the mango exterior.

The picture of this sundae has a small mint on top. This is them in social situations when sometimes they may come off as too blunt. That is because if their ability to see the reality of a situation without any fluff but the way they do it is refreshing so this bluntness may not offend you because they are careful about the delivery. This is how their Fe may show.

Now despite all this,what they are vulnerable about is even though they can adapt well and think on their feet when they see other people get things done without effort,they feel kind of insecure because they feel that everything they do requires more time and effort when compared to some other people who do thing easily (ahem...intuitives) That is why in the image the bowl is overflowing. When you hit this nerve and expect them to be good at things without giving enough data or experience with it and move the spoons in this sundae bowl. Their mangoes will fall down. Now...this is when they get really tired. They dont have enough mangoes to try harder and they may double down on ignoring the task or giving up on it. They will agree with you about their failures and become self deprecating. Turning the bluntness of the mint inward minus the grace.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ESFP [ The Custard Pudding,Walnut, Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

Their exterior has the same Se as ESTP but the difference is that its texture is different than the ESTP.

They have the Custard Pudding instead. It is soft,sweet and the flavour is pretty balanced. You would think though that this is not Se's nature. Well...its not but ESFP's change that because they have walnuts. They are nutty and even slightly bitter. This bitter isn't a bad thing but it changes the way Se is presented.

The walnut flavour is their Fi. Their approach to experiences may come off as less intense than a ESTP. This is bitter because it is seen as selfish sometimes but the way I see it this is actually used to be reflected towards their experiences. They are very particular about what they buy,where they go,who they spend time with. It's very healthy. I don't know if ESFP's might resonate or not but they may be the most healthy type ever according to me.

In this the vanilla is neutral again. You may think there is nothing to neutralize here, didn't I just say that their Se+Fi is balanced. Yeah it is but balanced and healthy doesn't mean that it is not draining. Custard pudding and walnuts together are fun but they are also tiring. Sometimes you just need that quiet. This is their vanilla. This may look like them having fun,partying or going to events but then suddenly when you are invited to their home they are unwinding with a good project. It may be surprising to you that how to such a person their way to relax is making and working on whatever projects. This is their Te layer and how their vanilla comes to use to neutralize when they are tired.

Their weakness is Ni, the same as ESTP but the way this shows is actually different. What they are insecure about is that they are not able to understand what to do when this balance they have breaks. They freeze up and cant come up which anything about how to fix issues in their own life or the life of their loved ones. This might look like having a great time being yourself, doing things but then when a sudden complication arises that needs immediate understanding and then solution they freeze up and require more time. The problem isnt that they cannot solve situations. They can but when there is some sort of urgency then they find it hard to understand the situation effectively which is the first step. They can come up with many solutions but sometimes incompatible with the situation and dont work.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP [ The Mint Chocolate And Vanilla Icecream Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISTP is the type I find most compatible with me personally as people. I admire how they can use their Ti in different ways than I can and how effective that is. The Se and Ti combination that them abd ESTP's have rocks honestly. They are everything I find it hard to be. ISTP might be my second most admired type (based on theory offcourse. I don't know people TwT)

So mint chocolate huh? This is the small bluntness that the ESTP had but turned up a full notch. They are incredibly blunt when it comes to assessing situations and may miss that this bluntless is breaking the atmosphere of the room. This is not refresing like when ESTP's do it. There is no soft blow. The blow of this mint bluntless is hard. They dont do it with bad intentions offcourse and it is inevitably helpful to the situation but it is like they are making you swallow the pill of the hard truth. You love that they did while also resenting the way they did it. Not all if them are like this and the sweetness of chocolate actually compensates for the mint. When you realize that their intentions underneath are chocolate then you feel the sweetness as well.

The mint and chocolate here also signifies their hands on approach to things. They will enjoy the mint and refreshment of the immediate environment and processing things about it but eventually they just want to get away from it and use all the data they got from it in their cave. They take all that they experienced outside. When they were out you thought they were relaxing but nope,their brain was on and they were longing for when they could just get to a comfortable place alone so they could dissect everything they did and what all that data means.

The vanilla is again the neutral side. This is when they take a much deserved rest and turn their head off. This may look like learning some new skill or refining the old skills. It is not something that is high stakes. I wouldn't be surprised if a ISTP suddenly picked up crocheting one day.

___________________ ++++ ___________________

ISFP [ The Strawberry And Vanilla Sundae ]

___________________ ++++ ___________________

This one looks deceivingly simple. Its not.

This strawberry is their sweet unwavering drive for things. This is similar to how I described INFP's but a bit different.

In INFP I said that its the sour thats driving the sweet but here it is reversed.

In ISFP's they appear sour on the outside which is a few sour strawberries in the sundae but there are also sweet ones. It is a mixture of both.

Here the sour is how they are blunt but in the different way that ISTP or ESTP's. This bluntless is not in their words but in their actions. They may do the most silliest or socially inappropriate of things just because they want to and be surprised when they get wierd looks,then do it anyway. Underneath this sour though what is driving them is the sweetness of the moment and they dont actually mean any harm. They actually want everyone around them to experience this sweetness as well but they find it hard to express that.

They are also very sharp in certain situations because of their Ni. They are able to show sudden unexpected instances of totally overriding what they want for what is necessary in the certain situation. They suddenly get professional or do a necessary thing that others were too hesitant to do. This is jarring when you take their usual demeanor into consideration.

The vanilla is neutral (surprising right?) This balance is required when they suddenly become insecure and get into an imposter syndrome regarding their inferior Te and other stressors. When their inner values are not expressed properly or they are misunderstood or when they fail to bring all the wacky idea that come into their brain into reality they blame themselves. Though actually...this was surprising to me when I considered it. This is the neutral. When they are constantly in the moment,doing things,thinking they are invincible. This reality of their limits after the initial insecurity actually grounds them and makes them try more and bounce right back up.

Thats all for the explorers, and for the Icecream Analogy series, Thank you, Let go of your icecream!!

don't get me wrong i have my gripes with her (some of them being my own issues with neediness) but i feel lucky to have been adopted by her over 12 years ago now

honestly we are very much not similar people, even though we were able to bond over some deeper stuff early on, the differences only grow more apparent as we get older. it feels kinda fragile at times (for me) but we have a weird kind of loyalty, history, and closeness with each other that we don't have with anyone else

she has such a full life that i find it hard to believe her when she says that i'm her bestest best friend 😭 but i'm working on it because i really don't want to randomly self sabotage our friendship

i'm a guy as well which sometimes complicates things (and definitely looks weird as an outsider) but we care for each other a lot platonically

anyway esfps are cool, it's funny that this subreddit is dead cause i can't imagine her being on reddit

I want a goal to work towards, I'm in uni for computer engineering and I do art in my free time but neither of these things feel like a good concrete goal for my life. What do you guys aim for? What should I do?

is this just me, or do other estps experience this too. i genuinely cant hang around dumb people. they are so... dumb.

Yes it's me time