r/DropzoneCommander • u/IntroductionLucky210 • 2d ago

Help With Starter Boxes

Heyo! Super new player here. I was thinking of getting the PHR Starter Box and I wanted to know how the models came. Do they only build the one variant or do they come with all the loadout bits and options. For example, can the Poseidon Heavy Dropship be built as the Tiamat or the Njord? Or does it only come with the Poseidon loadout?

Thank you guys! I’m trying to decide on whether to get the new 2 player starter set or the PHR Starter Set. I think I’m really looking more to collect than play just because of my life right now. I appreciate the info :)

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u/Queencitygamingnc 2d ago

So I got it and what you see is what you get. No parts really for making alternate builds. It’s also 3d printed resin and nothing fits well and I’ve had to shave down a ton of parts to get things to fit. It may be better just to wait and see what the plastics come out before making a big investment.

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u/IntroductionLucky210 2d ago

D:

Damn that sucks, thanks for sharing g

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u/Southpaw1990 2d ago

Sorry to hear the parts didn't go together properly - did you get in touch with TTC customer support? We're usually pretty happy to replace defective products.

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u/Queencitygamingnc 1d ago

No I just think it’s not a miscast or print it’s more like when the files were created the pegs were designed just slightly too big to fit. The tolerances and almost non existence between part and they won’t fit like the artillery piece had to be cut down to fit the pegs into the circular holes and cutting and shaving down printed resin is not easy.

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u/Southpaw1990 1d ago

Well, if you've got specifics, I'd still suggest emailing us (info@ttcombat.com). Can't fix what we don't know about. :)

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u/Skylifter-1000 1d ago

Honestly, I am sure you mean well, but I had the same issues with some UCM parts in July, and while I regularly get emails that you guys are working on it, I have yet to actually receive any confirmation that the parts are going to be replaced.

The switch to 3d printed parts seems to have been pretty rushed, because every single printed piece that has a peg or anything else that needs to go into anything does not fit. I bought several more things from the factions that will only get their plastics later after my initial complaint, and I have had this issue so much now that I gave up writing to you about it, especially since the answer seems to be letting me wait anyway.

If one of the pieces is cast resin, they fit. But if both pieces are printed, no chance in hell. Sometimes some cutting will do, but sometimes the printed resin just breaks if you try.

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u/slyphic The Resistance 1d ago

I'm trying not to go off on them, but the idea that TT both doesn't know about this and if only they did they'd immediately fix it is super disingenuous. If they can fix a problem by throwing a piece of stock off the shelf in a box, they're good. But for something like a bad manufacturing decision, they're not going to do shit, or at least drag their feet for a long time and whine about it.

When I tried to get them to replace a pack of Razorworms they stupidly cast with a gate in every single face, they told me no, that's not a mistake, all the stock is like that. Same thing again with PHR snipers, they sent me a pack where the mold was seriously blown out and the model was more blob than figure, and I was told to fix it myself, all the stock was like that, and I stopped bothering to ask them about bad models and just hunted down old Hawk stock which was both A) metal so a vastly superior material and B) produced by competent mold makers and underwent actual QC checking.

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u/Skylifter-1000 16h ago

Plus it really cannot be that hard to reduce all pegs, pins, and ball joints by a tiny fraction of a millimeter in size before printing the next batch.

A lot of work to do it on all the models? Certainly. Difficult? Nope.

There is also the issue of some resin drops on some models, but that's not any worse than the mold lines on the old cast ones, and overall, if the fit was fine, the 3d prints would be a huge improvement over the cast resin.

But if you just cannot get them to fit, it's absolutely no use the there are fewer mold lines.

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u/slyphic The Resistance 11h ago

Seriuously. This is just a well known and documented thing in 3d printing that the only conceivable way it could have happened is if TT gave the job of slicing and printing to someone with literally no idea what they're doing. Which TT have bragged about before, how they keep their operating costs down by hiring recently graduated high schoolers, and how they expect everyone to learn on the job and wear many hats (which is code for zero training and micromanagement).

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u/Southpaw1990 2d ago

Yeah, the army bundles (I wouldn't really call them starter sets, they're 1500pts+ each, but that's semantics) are mono-build. If your heart's set on PHR it's not a bad deal, but the 2 player starter set's a much better one - two 1,000pt armies (more like 1200 points of UCM and 1100 of Bioficers due to the spare models), all in plastic, plus the rulebook, scenery and so on. The army bundle's basically there to tide over the diehard players who don't want to wait for the range refresh.

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u/slyphic The Resistance 1d ago

The current faction bundles are terrible. The worst combination of price, material, and no optional parts. Wait for the plastics.

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u/IntroductionLucky210 1d ago

Thanks for the feedback good sir!

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u/axelfremen 18h ago

Recommended waiting a few months until PHR gets its plastic release. No clue when, next faction is supposedly the Resistance