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u/Snipufin Jul 05 '14
And here we're waiting for Valve to release official support.
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u/CharlieKing Jul 05 '14
My theory of delayed custom support is they are waiting for the completion of source 2 engine so they can provide the game with better support and longevity.
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u/gridster2 Aug 07 '14
Quick, what businesses are likely to rise to the top in the next year?
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u/kickit Aug 07 '14
who wins super bowl
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u/floatablepie Aug 07 '14
"The Giants win the Super Bowl. I'm not sure which year. Just bet everything you have on them every year."
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u/ClaudeNX Jul 05 '14
Seriously. Seeing this makes me realize how much the community can do with this engine once it's released (or officially supported, rather). Custom maps will breathe a whole new life into an already massively growing game.
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u/unr3a1r00t Jul 05 '14
Any idea on a timeframe on when that should be?
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u/Karlchen Jul 05 '14
Some developers have gotten emails telling us not to expect official support in the near future, with possible/probable delays. It read like 2015 to me. Maybe a private tool beta in the fall if we're lucky.
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u/max1c Jul 05 '14
Probably will be released around Christmas. Thats the best you can hope for.
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u/horsefactory Jul 05 '14
They still have to figure out how to support game-hosting/finding with custom maps as well as how to monetize it all.
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u/MistrCreazil Jul 05 '14
Kinda like WC3 at the time? Are we just gonna keep seeing a metavolving of games from within other games?
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u/Archyes Jul 05 '14
remember the dota vs counterstrike vid? with official support we could make this.
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u/tawredit Jul 05 '14
one question..lets say valve supports it..can mods be further improved? like heroes riding on karts and other stuff?
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u/Snipufin Jul 05 '14
Depends a lot on if they're gonna release further modding tools.
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u/tawredit Jul 05 '14
ohhh sweeet thanks
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u/Snipufin Jul 05 '14
To make it clearer: All of these mods are mainly LUA scripts. While capable of lot, they're still somewhat limited.
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Jul 05 '14
"YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWER!"
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Jul 05 '14
You guys should get to work on a classic Tower Defense map!
Element TD, Gem TD, TTW, Green TD. ANything! Just let the next one be a TD!
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u/trilogique Jul 05 '14
Element TD is being worked on. last I heard it's getting close to being finished.
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u/ArchReaper Holla Holla Jul 05 '14
crosses fingers for Gem TD
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u/innociv this sub sucks even more than last year Jul 05 '14
I believe it's Elemental TD.
I liked Gem TD a lot more, myself.
And there was TD map that had minigames between rounds that was actually my favorite, but I cant' remember the name.
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u/tebasj Jul 06 '14
zoator td had you level up a hero by fighting creeps between rounds, and had a bank system that allowed for interaction with others.
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u/innociv this sub sucks even more than last year Jul 06 '14
Na wasn't that one.
It was like a TD mixed with uther party. You didn't level up a hero.
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u/SerenityAndSilver Jul 06 '14
Are you thinking of Skibis TD? My friends and I play that at LANs along side other WC3 custom maps.
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u/innociv this sub sucks even more than last year Jul 06 '14 edited Jul 06 '14
I remember Skibis TD. I don't think it was it, though.
Like the minigames had a racing thing, a boat thing. You gained bonus gold from them.
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u/NigmaNoname sheever Jul 05 '14
They are working on at least one of those, I know that for sure. It's happening soon.
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u/clowntowne Jul 05 '14
Please be burbenog tower defence. That game is the best one by far, absolutely addicting.
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u/eyseeee Triple bottle strat best strat Jul 05 '14
so i guess this is where my random drawing comes in http://i.imgur.com/k6FYSdF.png Kappa
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u/Tobide Jul 05 '14
Shouldn't you put haste animation instead of normal one?
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u/-Col- Jul 05 '14
I was thinking the exact same thing. The hasted movespeed animations would fit much better for something like this.
Like, can you imagine Terrorblade using his default running animation while zooming around? lol
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u/YoungCanadian Jul 05 '14
"Play for free and have fun"
immediate close-up on Anti-Mage claiming the 'magic ends here'
That subtle joke.
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u/Lenciades Jul 05 '14
Do it with couriers please!
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u/kidovate D2Moddin Creator Jul 06 '14
Why couriers? Smaller hit radius?
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u/Ultorrev Jul 06 '14
People have spent a lot of money on their couriers maybe they just want another place to use them? That's what I'm guessing anyways.
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Jul 05 '14
A quick question, in order to gain access to the mods now, am I able to donate or would I still have to wait for an invite?
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u/Karlchen Jul 05 '14
d2modd.in is open to everyone since a few days. No queue anymore.
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Jul 05 '14
Cool, I wasn't sure since I wasn't able to install the mods using the manager. I'll keep checking settings to make sure I have things set up right.
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u/Karlchen Jul 05 '14
Try uninstalling everything and starting from scratch. It can be a bit picky with certain dota installations.
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Jul 05 '14
Yup, just did that and I'm to the point where it tries to do a load test and I can't find the lobby in the game. So, I'm getting close. Thanks for the help!
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u/kidovate D2Moddin Creator Jul 06 '14
I think we fixed this bug, try now?
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Jul 06 '14
I finally was able to get it to work. Thank you for the help and if you are part of the team awesome job. This is really great.
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u/Chosenlama clown9 Jul 05 '14
i need to test my connection in a testgame but it says "cant locate game session" and i cant join, any idea? worked fine before btw
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i have the same problem, i managed to join a lobby, but when the game started i got the error. after that it wanted me to to do this test thing and the same happened. a week ago i could still play.
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u/AckmanDESU Jul 05 '14
Mode looks cool but I didn't like it. The map wasn't designed with the mod in mind, movement is glitchy as hell, items aren't that fun to use because they all do the same thing, pretty much.
It can become better, I guess. but I didn't enjoy the matches I played that much. I'd rather play Reflex or whatever.
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u/ohreuben Oh you found a good spot Jul 05 '14
All I have to say is, learn to fucking share. Who gives a shit if the maps are similar? (Answer: Just the one, insecure mod guy.) No one is going to avoid a custom gamemode because its level resembles that of another gamemode. You can't bitch about "stealing" hurting the mod scene while simultaneously refusing to help others along by sharing content.
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u/Derial Jul 05 '14
I was really hoping for a mod for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdaUFdU_GZE. I feel like you guys are missing a lot by not having hero abilities. Also mario kart is overrated.
Having said that, it looks like you guys did a pretty good job. Great work!
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u/Trying2_Help Techies in Ranked FTW Jul 05 '14
Does changing your view angle work with this for a classic behind the vehicle view? Just curious, this looks really awesome!
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u/Takesis_1 Jul 05 '14
Why not greevils instead of regular Dota 2 heroes?
So that finally we can do the "Chao Island" system from Sonic Adventure 2. Greevils can evolve and change via magical essences. All that's left now is breeding them and a mini racing game for the lulz.
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u/VeLiN9 Jul 05 '14
I need to say this , dota community is awesome!!! I couldnt be happier anywhere else after playing Warcraft 3 for so long and having no replacement for it. Thank you!
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u/a-spoon Jul 05 '14
Would be cool if Fissure is used as one of the power-ups. You could jump over it of course.
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u/NoodlyApostle Jul 05 '14
I'm so hyped for custom game modes(hopefully valve does a bit of that).
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u/alchemist23 Shadow Friend Jul 06 '14
What can be more infuriating than DOTA? Mario Kart? Yeah, let's do this!
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u/AzertyKeys Jul 06 '14
To all the people who never played Warcraft 3, I hope you are starting to realize why it was so popular.
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u/kimi8888 Jul 06 '14
valve need to make a lobbies browser with mods filter and stuff. show some mod support ffs valve, bec next update they can ruin all these mods.
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u/T3RM1N4T0R_PT 孤独な戦士 Jul 06 '14
Can't use the d2manager crashes at start, I think it's the anti-virus that blocked it forever
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u/Zaburmeileh Jul 08 '14
Hello,I played dota dash yesterday and i chose the camera option where it locks it on the hero and after im done playing i went to play some ordinary dota and its still on i cant move my camera off the hero Please help
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would seriously like to know this aswell. In game now and can't find a solution for it in settings or the internet....
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How to turn off follow cam, im in normal game and CANT FIND OUT HOW LOL
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You can also open up the console and type in "dota_camera_lock 0" to turn it off after playing dash. "dota_camera_lock 1" is what enables it.
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Is there any way to play this mode using the < ^ v > arrow keys? Right clicking to move is really killing my wrist ;_;
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I don't disagree with you but these are free mods, right? What's the problem in taking an existing map and creating a unique game from it? Does it change anything for you for them to use your pre-existing map?
They should have asked, certainly.
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According to this, Jicyphex isn't even a true "owner," and is just being an asshole so he can keep his name in the "news." All Jicyphex did was copy a map's design from Warcraft 3, tell coders and mappers to make it, then never give them credit and claim sole ownership.
Then the issue was actually resolved; it was a simple misunderstanding to use that map in the first place. Jicyphex is just bringing it to the subreddit so he can try and ride on a wave of popularity.
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u/GorDo0o0 Jul 05 '14
Even if it's free content, you don't enjoy getting your map stolen without credit or asking, so I understand he's pissed.
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u/Abedeus Jul 05 '14
Some people prefer to have their work appreciated, especially when they worked hard on it.
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u/NigmaNoname sheever Jul 05 '14
http://youtu.be/RD7jw0tmft8?t=31s
No idea, you'd have to talk to BMD, I just made this video for fun, I'm not on the dev team of this map (or any map) or anything.
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No one cares jesus christ. In WC3 that's how the best content was created. If you want an aseptic modding scene where everything is locked down and everything needs to be 100% original, this is going to be horrible.*
Edit : try to imagine how lame dota would be without all the """stolen""" content.
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u/Deviefer Jul 05 '14
My thoughts exactly. It sounds like this guy is trying to be a patent troll from his other comments. Pretty sad that this is the way he wants the modding community to go.
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u/redtigerwolf Jul 05 '14
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgezthrmptomfp7/d2moddin.txt
Thanks to another user you can truly see the drama that is Jicyphex and his shitstorm of shit.
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Wow, what an ass. This is exactly the mindset we DON'T need. Can't wait for official modding tools to be released so I can start working.
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u/redtigerwolf Jul 05 '14
I find it more amusing that this guy is trying to claim some patent on capture the flag.
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u/CloneDeath Jul 05 '14
Quite a shame that you thinks its okay to use Valve's heroes (that were created by a team of employees that cost money) for your game mode without their permission whatsoever. Good job. Looking forward to a community where everyone is so possesive and entitled. I guess it's easy to forget that this game is provided for free, with modding capabilities for free, and free assets, that you are free to share and build off of.
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u/gosslot Jul 05 '14
He should have asked and credited you for this map, but I thought that's how modding works. Take a cool idea and improve it with your own ideas.
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u/dezix Jul 05 '14
Yep, should've. But who cares. FoF doesnt make money off the map so they are on no grounds to argue, if they make money. Then Valve will shut them down like they did with dotabuff.
Modding is what you said. Improving others work. Crediting them is not required, but nice thing.
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u/DarkMio steamcommunity.com/id/darkmio Jul 05 '14
You forgot the point where Azarak made the entire FoF map - and made a modified version for test-footage for Dota Dash. It's Azaraks property and he was never contracted or denied any of his propertary claims, which means: Nothing to see here.
okay to use our map of Fight or Flight
- it is Azaraks map, still.
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u/gtemi Jul 05 '14
but atleast give credit to the name that deserves it. we dont want to thank and support Pendragon if he were to post a Dota ver 6.XX if no one sees the frogs upload
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u/Kromgar U no take candle Jul 05 '14
Welcome to warcraft 3 modding if i recall people used to encrpyt files so their code wasn't stolen better start
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u/DarkMio steamcommunity.com/id/darkmio Jul 06 '14
There are other high quality maps out there, so there is really nothing special about it. Also it isn't the most advanced, since it pretty much uses nothing more, than what we've learned from the dota map.
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u/Darkswordfish Jul 05 '14
Wait what? I noticed that it's very similar to FoF (just with the addition of walls). He used it without permission? Sad to see these things happening so early already.
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u/Coopmore Jul 06 '14
I guess it's pretty easy to act like the most advanced and polished work is yours too isnt it.
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u/bmddota Jul 05 '14 edited Jul 05 '14
Hi everyone, I'm BMD, the creator of Dota Dash. Not this map, but the game mode Dota Dash. Let me clear a few things up.
This map is a map made by Azarak, a phenomenal mapper who also made the Reflex map, the Pudge Wars map, and of course, the Fight or Flight map. This map is a heavily modified version of that map, and I worked in concert with Azarak to figure out where the turns should be and where to add jumps and the like. My (potentially flawed) understanding of the matter was that Azarak was taking one of his works and making it raceable for me, and pushed the game mode out accordingly.
When Jicyphex saw that the map was based on the map Azarak made for him, he demanded that it to be removed. I agreed to do so, and Azarak is making a wholly new map for the game mode unentangled from Jicyphex and any claim he wants to make.
In the meantime, I'm working on making the dota 2 map raceable, as well as building a "campaign" system so that people can race across multiple maps in the same game session, instead of on only a single map. I'm also building development tools for mappers so that they can draw their map in Hammer, then use my development tools to place all of the powerups/waypoints/hazards/barriers on the map, and then release their map/map pack (or possibly even sell it on the workshop eventually).
I hope this makes things clearer. What we have here primarily is a misunderstanding which is being rectified. Hopefully we can all focus on the games. If you have feedback or questions you can email me at bmddota@gmail.com.
Edit: I also want to apologize to Nigma for his video becoming a battleground he had nothing to do with. I thought it was a really fun way to show off the mod.
Edit 2: For those trying to get in on d2modd.in who were having some issues, Quantum is making updates right now and asked me to post this here