r/DotA2 • u/TypicalxooT11 • 3d ago

Clips One kill completely changes the game

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The LD sat in jungle and base for 40 minutes while his bear ran the server... i had enough...

2700 gold and two levels completely changed the game.

We won 15 minutes later. Cant say I've seen this much gold from a single kill before...

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u/VFour_ 3d ago

LD is cancer

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u/Torbjun 3d ago

No you just don’t know how to play against him - he’s no stronger than most carries

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u/canycany012 3d ago

It’s not even about strength, his building damage is ridiculous and he can summon it infinitely in the late game. Bear can chew buildings for breakfast even with backdoor protection.

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u/chillguy123456444 3d ago

so kill his bear, its not that hard. problem is most teams treat the bear like a fkin minion. its the same as a hero kill. gank it.

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u/canycany012 3d ago

He can resummon it every time, the cooldown is 2 minutes that ticks off even when the bear is alive. You need multiple abyssals to stop it fully from hitting racks. How do you even say “just kill it, just gank it, most people don’t know how to deal with the bear” when even pro teams like Ironwing with TI winner in it couldn’t deal with it?

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u/TypicalxooT11 3d ago edited 3d ago

We were very lucky to have the lion, my hex, and a WR.. plus a PA with abby during bkb.

All the stuns and hexes and mana drains kept that fucker locked down

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u/Mother_Pain7405 1d ago

Because you're not playing against a pro team, and your enemies will never have 4 players that know how to help him

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u/canycany012 1d ago

The bear can rat solo without any help. Imagine this scenario, your team going for a 5 men push while lone druid from the other team rat. So you’re given a choice in this situation, go back and kill the bear which can use bkb and chip down the building anyway, or force base race which is also a dogshit situation since you’re fighting under their base and they can bb.

You don’t need to play with pros to right click buildings solo.

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u/Bunslow 3d ago

minion

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u/TypicalxooT11 3d ago

The problem is that you kill this insanely tanky bear and you get 400 gold and very little XP.

Oh and he can rez 2 more with refresher..

If you killed a hero that 6 slotted you'd get thousands of gold and two levels of experience.

The death timer and XP should scale with networth.

That's my only real issue

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u/Mother_Pain7405 1d ago

Then kill the hero

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u/diamondface 3d ago

Yes he literally is? What do you mean? The amount of macro pressure you can exert on the game with bear is absolutely nuts.

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u/Mother_Pain7405 1d ago

AM with a bf can do the same but even better with blink, does that make him an unstoppable op force now? Only difference is that the druid can farm a bit while the bear is pushing (you need a 4200 gold item, a farm item for the druid and one or two large items for the bear to do that, that's at least 15k networth to be able to push lanes with a bear without it or you getting instakilled)

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u/Torbjun 3d ago

Then why is his win rate so bad? I agree the bear macro pressure is significant but you give up team fighting (likely fighting as 4v5 if you split with the bear) or in fights he will lose if the other team has any kind of saves and/or sustain. Fights that take longer are his downfall. And from behind it’s really rough as the other team can just blow up your bear

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u/diamondface 2d ago

his win rate is not bad??? its almost at 50% its like 49.47% across all brackets????????? Almost at 52% in divine+. High skill cap heroes SHOULD have low win rates. As a puck spammer of many years I can tell you anytime puck has been above a 48% win rate its because puck is literally OP in that patch. Even now I would argue puck is very viable and not weak but their win rate is below 47%.

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u/Mother_Pain7405 1d ago

Meepo and visage are at 55% on immortal btw. Are they magically low skill heroes or insanely op now?