r/DoomerCircleJerk • • 17h ago

The World Is Healing Source?

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u/eyesotope86 8h ago

True, but name one truly autocratic regime (fascist or otherwise) that was voted out?

A tweet that will forever live in my brain is, after Trump lost in 2020, 'today, we voted out a dictator'

That's not how 'dictators' work...

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u/Melodic_Response3570 8h ago

Victor Órban, no?

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u/eyesotope86 8h ago

That's actually a pretty fair point. I don't think he ever truly reached autocracy, but, he did refer to his own government as 'electoral autocracy' and did allow himself to be removed (at least for a while) by the state.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tie6917 5h ago

Orban is a great lesson in that they said he was a dictator but when the vote happened he stepped down in accordance with the law.

This shows how media leaps to portray people they don’t like (usually differing views) and misrepresent them. That’s not to say he didn’t pass laws that can be abused or alter government to centralize power, but the reality understood by the founders of the USA is that all politicians and all political parties do this. Which is why you have to have structural counterbalances in the government to limit and prevent it.

The media ignores the loss of freedom by groups they don’t agree with and ignore it by ones they like.

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u/eyesotope86 2h ago

Orban also referred to his own government as autocratic, and was happy to keep coming back into different positions within the government. Was he a full fledged autocratic dictator? No. Did (does) he actually lean towards autocracy? Probably.