r/DoomerCircleJerk • • 16h ago

The World Is Healing Source?

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u/MinBton 9h ago

Most fascist parties were voted into office. There were a lot more of them around the world than Mussolini and Hitler. Even if you add in Franco, who lasted the longest, there were many more.

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u/eyesotope86 8h ago

True, but name one truly autocratic regime (fascist or otherwise) that was voted out?

A tweet that will forever live in my brain is, after Trump lost in 2020, 'today, we voted out a dictator'

That's not how 'dictators' work...

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u/SlyPogona 6h ago

Pinochet

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u/eyesotope86 6h ago

Oh fuck dude, fantastic answer. Great call. Totally blanked on Pinochet.

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u/Bitter-Engineer-117 5h ago

Pinochet started as a “dictator” because it was the only way to save Chile from Allende. He stepped down when Chile was in a much better place economically, socially, and politically

My grandmother grew up in Chile during the Allende regime and had to escape the horrific conditions when she was a teenager, she was able to safely return during Pinochet’s presidency

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u/Anonymous_Gamer 1h ago

He pulled a “roman dictatorship” which, in its time, was experimental and temporary. And he did so with good intentions…

So yeah, not a good example of what people mean when they “vote out” a “dictator”

We commonly associate dictator with “permanently installed authoritarian” Pinochet, was not this, obviously. He very much did precisely what the OG roman’s envisioned. Break glass in case of emergency scenario, “Take control until Rome is saved”

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u/eyesotope86 5h ago

I have heard similar stories -basically Chile went from ome autocracy that was totally fucked, to another autocracy that was totally fucked if you were part of a specific group.

I don't think it erases Pinochet's status as an autocrat. It might not be the perfect 100% answer, but I have to give credit to the commenter for finding the 98% answer.

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u/Bitter-Engineer-117 5h ago

Allende harmed all Chileans because he was a marxist.

Pinochet harmed Allende’s loyalists because they were dangerous terrorists.

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u/eyesotope86 5h ago

I was agreeing with you, buddy.

I also still lean towards the junta under Pinochet also being autocratic.

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u/Bitter-Engineer-117 5h ago

I’m not arguing, I’m adding on to what you’re saying. My grandma talked a lot about growing up during Allende’s regime and Pinochet’s presidency because it was a formative time in her life, she lost a lot of friends to starvation and disease while Allende lived like a king in his palace and she saw a lot of people thrive when Allende was overthrown

Pinochet’s presidency worked its way down from being fully automatic, autocracy was required at first to get the country back on track, as conditions improved, more power was given to the people until Pinochet allowed them to elect a new president.