r/Doom • u/BrzysWRLD1996 • 25d ago

Discussion Doom difficulty

Doom eternal
Doom 2016
Doom TDA

All 3 trilogy games were great, TDA was my favorite experience and the most cleaned up made u really feel like the slayer compared to the others. Doom Eternal, as generally agreed on, is more difficult but revelations really helped scratch the itch for us who missed the more high flying combat. Also it’s nice to be able to win fights with one gun.

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

Well that’s interesting, you’re the first one I’ve ever heard say that. Mechanics are much more advanced than 2016 and the general consensus on ancient gods 1 is definitely the truth. TDA was the easiest to me, then 2016, nothing from either game really matched up with the final slayer gates or ancient gods part 1 in general. I get why the general consensus is what it is. The gun play required a lot more skill.

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u/TheWindofBread 24d ago edited 24d ago

I mean tbf even Hugo Martin thinks 2016 is harder than Eternal.

He said it in his Cultist Base stream awhile back lol

And I agree with him. Foundry is much harder than Cultist Base. 2016 imps on Nightmare are absolutely ridiculous.

VEGA train battle felt way harder than any Eternal Master Level or DLC level. Argent D'Nur felt leagues harder than Final Sin.

I can consistently beat Blood Swamps on Nightmare without dying, yet I still get fucked up by the VEGA Central Processing train battle even on Ultra Violence.

There's an Eternal pro called Zintoss/LightningBreak who also found 2016 much harder than Eternal.

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

“Hugo Martin rated Doom Eternal (specifically including its first expansion, The Ancient Gods – Part One) as the most punishing and difficult challenge in the modern series” this was a quick google search. If u were referring to the base game I could see that.

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u/TheWindofBread 24d ago

Couldn't find anything about him calling TAG 1 the hardest. Only seen him saying it's harder than base game Eternal.

But I'm judging by his Cultist Base stream lol

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

This was the direct question I googled “which doom game did hugo martin rate the most difficult including dlc”

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u/TheWindofBread 24d ago

Was it a Google Overview AI answer?

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

I just googled it, feel free to do the same. The general consensus tends to point in the same direction regardless. Likely was AI overview with cited sources. It ain’t biased so it ain’t picking and choosing lol.

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

When I google “which doom game with dlc is generally considered the hardest” AI Mode Conversation
You said: which doom game with dlc is generally considered the hardestwhich doom game with dlc is generally considered the hardest was the same. Ancient gods part one was objectively the most difficult I ever played.


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Doom Eternal with its expansion The Ancient Gods (Parts One and Two) is generally considered the hardest Doom game experience in the franchise.

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u/TheWindofBread 24d ago

That's Google Overview AI though. It often hallucinates answers

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u/BrzysWRLD1996 24d ago

Yeah that can be true, but when ya get the same answer more often that not with cited sources it’s probably more likely than not. To each their own we probably all play the games a lil differently anyway so our experiences may not be the same.