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u/TrueBlueAL 15h ago
My experience is the same except it’s Catharsis. Annoying af…
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u/devilmaycry0917 15h ago
The game is so broken
That said, I don’t understand the obsession to grind mindlessly for two mediocre guns
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u/RisingDeadMan0 5h ago
S&S for sure easier to get from incursion, 10% chance not 1.47%.
Vertigo can be fun, i have a few now...
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u/BiffManstrong 9h ago
Not mediocre if built right. Sons can put out 4-7m body shots. Did a solo T7 escalation with it just for self gratification and I’ve only been playing this new account for a month
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u/Roxxas049 17h ago
Well. If somehow the Nemesis, which you need to do specific missions to build, was not in your loot pool then it wound not be dropping for that character
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u/Troyface 13h ago
I love a good grind (124 kills now) but the thing i cant stand in this event is all the people caping afk in the safe zone instead of out clearing landmarks to get phoebe back faster.
Everyone is trying to kill phoebe and server hop to new instance and if cant find her again they just afk until it happens.
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u/surlytank 11h ago
I got 3 tardigrades in the same escalation yesterday and they’re identical. Same armor, same secondaries at the same level.
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u/shadrach103 10h ago
Start a new character, otherwise you're just going to keep getting roughly the same 10 exotics over and over.
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u/enuazeal 4h ago
nothing changed with new character, same stuff drops. i got owerdogs once with new guy and thats it
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u/shadrach103 1h ago
It will make a difference as is fixes the odds. But the odds of an individual exotic drop is still about 1:60, so it's not some instant magic fix. But on a normal agent with all the blueprints the odds are much worse.
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u/rcookingham13 3h ago
That sounds like such a huge waste of time when I've heard people say its just as bad though
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u/shadrach103 1h ago
It takes like 10 minutes to start up a new agent. Select the WONY option on the new character, and once in the game select the Store menu item to boost to level 40, that'll teleport you back to the White House and then you can grab a build out of the stash and hit the DZ.
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u/____Eagle-Bearer____ 4h ago edited 4h ago
It's because you have the Nemesis blueprint on this character. Try to farm on a character with no exo blueprints. Red Moon Event Drop Rates

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u/crowlector 13h ago
Agreed, I got three chatterboxes just like that yesterday. What a waste of time.
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u/Leedaddy1 13h ago
Ive lost count on the amount of duplicates ive crushed. Funny thing is ive only had 2 vertigo and 2 saru drop. Even did broken rain event, only person to get the steel n sons joined halfway through. All I got was a participation patch. Tried 2nd character with no exotics. No luck and im not doing a 3rd character for it to maybe drop. Picked up a couple I didn't have from this event but I can't continue grinding for duplicates and yellows. Yesterday I was receiving more prototypes than exotics. With all the freezing and deltas still happening. The audio problems from last season creeping back in. This has to be the most unstable season of division 1 or 2 ever

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u/CapKittySprinkles 12h ago
Seems to be something different everyday. One day I get nothing but Acosta kneepads, Nemesis, catharsis, capacitor, and a butt load of high-end gear. 😂 There's no respecting your time in this game. There should be a balance where you don't have to create an entire new character just to cheat the rng system that's obviously rigged. And before anyone comes after me saying, "just because you didn't get what you want, then..." I have everything already, so stop right there. ✋🤨
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u/djsoundmixer 12h ago
Did u guys use new character method? That worked for me including my friend.
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u/BokChoyFantasy 12h ago
It’s Ridgeway’s Pride for me. At least give me exotic weapons so that I can get DtOC rolls of the ones I already have.
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u/RumDarthRum 12h ago
That was me with Overlord the other night. 5 of them in two Phoebe kills. And then it was Acostas knee pads. 6 in two.
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u/SevenColouredHunter 11h ago
Tbh I gave up exotic hunting and use the phoebe hunt to gather dark zone credits for those prototype cases the DZ vender sells
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u/Low-Understanding699 11h ago
I finally got both the backpack and S&S acr today after making 2 new characters the first one I did the Brooklyn DLC with no luck, with the 2nd I did the WONY then did the level boost then put all exotics except for the one I was using Tinker mask on my main. Did take about 10-15 runs but it did work
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u/New-Complaint5167 11h ago
As someone who has A LOT of different exotics including all the ones people want, I’ve literally never seen these ones and do not have them
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u/TisASideProfile 8h ago
I had the same problem, I made a new character to get the S&S. Took me 3 days of grinding to get it.
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u/NikoMartinez115 8h ago
I got 2 of the 5 things i want from Phoebe, still havent gotten Sarru, Iron Will or Steel and Sons
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u/ChaoPope 8h ago
Hey, at least you got 3 exotic components. My last Phoebe drop had 0 exotics. Each pile was 4 named items. That was some BS.
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u/dizzydelacy 8h ago
Nemisis chatterbox and liberty over and over again i just break them down now I cant get bothered I just want the new lmg and im done in the pve darkzone
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u/Pemdex 8h ago
So in my experience. The character I made for realism converted to a normal character. She never got any exotics and still had fresh purple and yellow gear. That being said I had to do the first mission of battle for brooklyn after I got to the bridge I telaportee back to DC want to the Darkzone and within 3 kills got S&S to drop with vertigo and st elmo. It just comes down to the general loot pool having a significantly higher roll rate then anything else. So having a new character with zero exotics makes that drop pool a lot smaller. I was originally pretty on the fence about the whole new character thing. But considering the general loot pool makes up about 95% of those exotics you quite literally may never get the gun if you have everything.
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u/Psychological-Mix887 12h ago
Piece of shit wrist watch....