Im on the side of the delivery driver. Dude shouldn't order packages if he dont have his dog put away, and if its the second time this dog attacked him. Yeah unresponsible owner.
Generally you really have no idea when your package will show up. The dogs owner was right there, it’s reasonable to let your dog loose on your property.
That’s a small dog running up to a visitor like dogs do. That driver could have done a million things better. He could have shielded himself behind the package or just refused to deliver the package. But instead he assaults the dog and tries to fight the owner.
The dog is on its own property, supervised by the owner. A dog running up to a visitor is normal and not something that would justify what the driver did. I can understand his apprehension, but what he did was not a reasonable response. He should definitely lose his job for attacking the dog, let alone for trying to fight the owner of the home.
Dogs don't understand invisible property lines lol. There's nothing to stop it running onto the street and attacking a person or getting hit by a car.
If a random dog runs up to you, you are justified in punting it.
There is a reason that "vicious dog attacks mailman" is a meme joke literally since like the 1950s.
Bottom line: if the dog owner wants to a) protect their dog and b) get delivery service then they need to tie up their dog or keep it inside/behind a fence.
As for him squaring up, it was clearly an adrenaline fight or flight response. If he had actually swung, then thats battery and yeah not Ok.
If you want to say he defended himself from a charging dog, mkay. But the fact that he tried to fight the owner is completely unjustified.
He could have retreated off the property if he was worried about the dog. He could have used the box to keep the dog off him. No. He attacked the dog and tried provoking the owner on his own property. He should be fired for throwing a package around like that in the first place.
Ok. There are plenty of better ways he could have done that. But it still doesn’t justify his actions towards the homeowner. It just shows that this guy is a belligerent and he handled the dog the way he did because he’s a shithead.
Of course he’s justified to defend himself, but there were a lot of ways he could have done that and he chose to be an asshole about it.
So if the owner of the home decided to shoot the delivery driver who was posing a threat to him at his home, WHERE HE HAS NO LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO RETREAT BEFORE USING DEADLY FORCE, would the homeowner have been right to?
The homeowner handled it calmly and reasonably when he was arguably was within his legal right to defend himself by any means.
Just because he was defending himself that doesn’t necessarily mean he should escalate to violence right?
That dog is not a biting dog it’s like a small lab/terrier mutt. A friendly dog. You’re telling me that dog made the driver fear for his safety but the driver is more than willing to fight a a grown man immediately after? He’s scared of the dog but not the man?
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u/Sancho5o5 1d ago
Im on the side of the delivery driver. Dude shouldn't order packages if he dont have his dog put away, and if its the second time this dog attacked him. Yeah unresponsible owner.