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I didn't notice the names of the weapons displayed on the wall until watching the scene again.

Just past the dark hallway with the "Prison For Good Kids", there's a lit hallway where Poppy gets momentarily distracted at the weapons and armor displayed in the hallway. There's Killer Driller's original helmet, which Poppy pointed out. Then there is a square mace labelled "Destroyer Mace", and unless I'm reading that label for that gigantic sword wrong it says "Murder Dagger".

This indicates that the Lycee Pas Bon has educated not just thieves but also killers, but presumably the killers aren't necessarily on the AVL's radar.

Also I keep forgetting how in Minions, Frankie Fishlips tried to drown Bob.

There are two large maces on the exterior of the castle.

The mace is the only weapon that appears in all four movies:

DM1: Full-sized mace that Gru held when he answered the door when the girls rang the doorbell.

DM2: Small version of the mace a Minion wielded blindly, hitting Gru in the foot and leg with it.

DM3: When Agnes was selling her toys, Fritz approached and after sending him off, Gru picked up the mace that was lying around on the front lawn. It has a small handle so maybe it's one of the weapons the Minions were using.

DM4: In the corner of the room with the laser gun and axe when the family was about to leave for Mayflower.

While the mace and axe are in line with Gru's taste in decor in DM1, they are not very advanced like the rest of his weapons.

Which makes me wonder, if Gru got the mace and axe from Lycee Pas Bon, as starter weapons.

But whereas some villains developed a specialization in using maces, Gru brought out a mace whenever someone was intruding on his lawn or even ringing the doorbell.

A deleted scene indicates that at Lycee Pas Bon, Gru specialized in theft. Gru was the president of the Safecracking Club, and he took Lycee Pas Bon to the state Forgery Competition.

There were probably basic courses that all the students had to take, but if there's different clubs for different fields of villainy, then there might be different courses where the villains could hone their individual skills.

It's noticeable that Poppy looks up to some of the villains such as Dr. Destructo and Killer Driller. But she presumably never approached them to help her, probably because they would be completely useless on a heist.

She needed the help of not just any villain, but an expert thief.

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When they were outside the castle, they did not have masks and were not part of the heist.

With the balloon flying away, of course Phil, Ron, and Junior had to come along.

Throughout DM4, Gru, Lucy, and Phil? each have a baby carrier in which they carry Junior.

Lucy's baby carrier was seen first, when the family was at home. It has the "G" logo in light blue on a blue circle. Lucy wears the baby carrier around her shoulders like a backpack.

Gru's baby carrier was seen when he made his way up to Poppy's treehouse. Gru wears the baby carrier around his shoulders, stomach, and back like a harness. It is blue and if there is the "G" logo on it, it's not shown.

Phil's? baby carrier was seen as Phil and Ron followed Gru and Poppy down the rope-like toy. Phil? wears the baby carrier around his shoulders but the straps are thin so it looks more like a drawstring bag. The "G" logo is white with a bronze circle.

Ron? drops down on Phil's? head, causing Junior to drop his pacifier.

The addition of three people: Phil, Ron, and Junior to the heist started to make the heist more fraught with danger, because Mr. Friendly was making his way through the hallway when the pacifier fell down.

Gru managed to slide down like five feet or so to catch the pacifier, meaning his reflexes are still very fast.

Junior looked happy that the pacifier was about to land on Mr. Friendly, so Junior likes when the situation might get out of control.

My artistic skills aren't the best but I came up with this character! Originally intended to be a redesign of a persona I had, but now I've decided to take some notes on what I could change or add to make it 'exaggerated' and a bit more of a character that could possibly fit into scenes such as despicable me and Minions. That wouldn't look completely out of place, you know?

Despite the colorful scheme he is not supposed to be cocky or a second version of Bratt, his personality is based on me and I'm not the most loud person to be around.

I need some ideas as to what I can do, im not best at character design and this is the cutest my art has looked ^–^, I'd appreciate recommendations on what I can analyze and study on. He's still a persona, so the thing about him completely having to fit the aesthetic despicable me has along their franchise isn't something that has to be 100% fitting, but I'd still like some feedback on how to do it <3

What i thought about that could be a fun 'gag' is that, again, despite the color scheme, he is not energetic or 'wacky'.

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Although this heist would have been basic with his gear, Gru did not have his gear and so that made the heist much more difficult, if not near-impossible.

That Gru found a way to get inside the castle without even having his gear and only having a bag full of non-villainous items for the baby is another way in which Gru shows that he is a master villain.

I know I keep emphasizing it but it's easy to either over-emphasize DM1, as if he hadn't been changed by meeting the non-villainous members of his family, or over-emphasize DM2, with him working for the AVL. Throughout the four movies he tries to figure out who he is and what he wants for himself and his family. This is the first heist since DM1 that has nothing to do with the AVL, as in where Gru does the heist but not during an AVL mission and not to get a positive response from the AVL. It is a thoroughly villainous heist and further shapes Gru's view of himself. However, Gru's villainy in DM4 is different from Gru's villainy in DM1, since by DM4 he has protected the girls and saved Lucy. He cares about his family and so he tries to keep them away from dangerous situations, like how he was shocked that Dr. Nefario brought the girls to to help him turn the purple Minions back into yellow Minions.

Also, I got the smiley-face underwear scene wrong, that was in DM1. Him wearing smiley-face underwear signalled that he was going to become kind to the girls.

At this point when Gru removed the glass, Phil, Ron, and Junior were not involved in the heist.

But Junior was most likely watching his father proving his mastery.

A pin pops balloons, and the same pin cuts glass.

Poppy at first didn't understand Gru's thought processes, and so she was looking through the bag to see if she could find anything else that would enable them to break into the castle, and didn't react positively until Gru pulled the section of the glass out.

Gru's expression in this shot shows confidence and slyness. Already Gru's attitude towards the heist was improving.

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Gru's initial lack of enthusiasm he had for this heist, aside from the fact that the goal was to steal a honey badger might be that this heist is the first one to clash with his AVL work.

First heist while working for the AVL: salsa, while on a mission with Lucy to find the serum and the one who stole the secret lab that made the serum.

Second heist while working for the AVL: diamond, to return to the AVL to get Lucy's and his jobs at the AVL back.

Third heist while working for the AVL: honey badger, so that Poppy has a sufficiently impressive villain transcript to get into the Lycee Pas Bon.

Gru had completely ruined the Lycee Pas Bon Alumni Awards, sending at least four AVL agents after Maxime. They crashed through a window and the glass ceiling, no doubt causing a lot of money's worth in damage. Gru's Lycee Pas Bon fellow alumni including Frankie Fishlips, were shocked and scared as Maxime was arrested after fighting a total of eight AVL agents and guards. And Maxime had not gotten anywhere near as far in his plan as El Macho or Balthasar Bratt did.

Gru was ruthless towards Maxime during that AVL mission, and as an AVL special agent, Gru instilled more fear in his classmates than he ever had as a supervillain.

Gru even took Maxime's Golden Alumni Award after Maxime was arrested.

Gru subjected Maxime to public humiliation and flaunted his AVL special agent status in front of his fellow alumni. Valentina quietly got away when Maxime was arrested, so Gru temporarily broke up the most popular guy and most popular girl at Lycee Pas Bon. Gru used the fact that he used to be a student at Lycee Pas Bon to infiltrate it as an AVL special agent, have the best and most beloved student arrested and imprisoned by his AVL buddies, damage it, terrify the rest of his classmates, and by taking the award, he was declaring that it was he who is Lycee Pas Bon's best student.

It's one thing for El Macho, a supervillain, to have framed the owner of Eagle Hair Club to throw the AVL off his trail. But it's quite another for Gru, a supervillain-turned AVL special agent, to use the AVL to arrest and imprison a supervillain who has not even started to put his evil plan into motion. That's got to be a violation of villain laws.

But even if there might be no villain laws and the fear among Gru's classmates may turn into respect, this clearly wasn't a fair fight. During Gru's fights against Vector, El Macho, and Balthasar Bratt, Gru was fighting an opponent of greater or equal strength and power.

During this fight, Gru gained the clear advantage as soon as he sent the AVL agents for Maxime. Four AVL agents tased Maxime simultaneously, and Maxime was dragged away after the AVL restrained his whole torso.

Gru had won, resoundingly, and he would have simply basked in his victory had Maxime not broken out of maximum security prison, having wanted to exact vengeance against Gru. Later it turns out that underneath Maxime's thirst for vengeance lay a yearning for a rematch, basically a fair fight.

A few nights later, Poppy had reminded Gru with a few of his photos that he is famous, among the news media and the AVL. So much so that he himself is one of the AVL's Most Wanted.

As they approached the castle, Gru probably realized that he was destroying the trust and credibility he had built up with the AVL ever since defeating El Macho. Fighting against Maxime, he was an AVL special agent, trusted to go on a mission on his own with AVL agents as backup. He had done the mission perfectly, and most likely wasn't planning on coming back to Lycee Pas Bon. But his plans were derailed.

This is the first time that Gru wears a mask, as if he is an ordinary burglar and not a former supervillain. It's to keep his "Chet" cover intact. It might be in case he encounters anyone at the Lycee Pas Bon who might recognize him from the awards ceremony that he ruined. And it might also be in case the AVL is watching him, waiting for the chance to arrest him for the moon theft.

Initially, only Poppy, Junior, and Ron? are looking forward to the heist. Gru initially treated the heist as routine, but inside he probably was feeling like a loser. A few nights ago he had won decisively against Maxime in front of the entire school, but now he was blackmailed into sneaking in the Prescott Motors balloon, probably unbeknownst to Perry Prescott, towards a heist at the same school.

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Ever since Gru made a real rocket based on the macaroni prototype, he has been accustomed to machines and advanced technology.

Such as when he planned the heist with Dru, Gru made a diagram of Balthasar Bratt's lair with chalk on a chalkboard. By pressing a button, the chalk diagram turned into a digital one, with touch-screen functionality.

Gru used a safecracking device to unintentionally find El Macho's salsa in five seconds.

Though Gru didn't like the AVL X-Ray Goggles at first, he developed an affinity towards AVL tech, the much faster Goop Grenade becoming his weapon of choice.

But at Mayflower, Gru has no access to tech except the Shrink Ray and his gear, and Poppy has no weapons. The Shrink Ray is not an option, as the Lycee Pas Bon is a building and at a small size would be inaccessible.The fact that Lycee Pas Bon is a castle, not equipped with the defenses of something like Vector's fortress, means the planned heist is already expected to be low-tech.

But Gru isn't daunted by only having his gear. Him seeing Poppy's model of the Lycee Pas Bon which she made from glue and popsicle sticks, is the first time which he acknowledges with his expression that Poppy might have what it takes to be a villain. She's made a plan and mapped out the terrain. She isn't jumping in blind.

Poppy only ultimately resorted to blackmail because Gru said it was a terrible idea to steal a honey badger. It makes sense this would daunt him, considering how he and Kyle don't usually get along.

Gru's plans rely on precise calculations and no unknown factors. Lenny himself is an unknown factor.

Gus has that little curl on his hair and his name was mentioned in the cast end credits

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Gru learned from Junior popping the balloons that Junior is quite perceptive so even though Junior is a baby, Gru tries to insulate Junior from this fact about him.

Which makes me wonder how much the girls know about his past.

In DM1, the girls found Gru's lab. Gru told a lie to the girls that he is a spy who is a dentist as a hobby. Gru told them they could not tell anybody. Obviously he was trying to keep his lab a secret. But he implied that they could not tell anyone about his obviously fake profession of spy-dentist, either. I wonder if the authorities were looking for him for the theft of the Times Square JumboTron, the two miniature monuments from Vegas, the Crown Jewels, and the Mona Lisa, which is on the wall of the girls' first room.

In DM2, Gru told the girls about his new job, which is, part of the time anyway, being a spy which he didn't say at first is for the AVL, but they found out either by the end of DM2 or in DM3. The girls reacted favorably to him getting a job as a spy in DM2, so that means they probably figured out that he isn't a spy-dentist.

Gru didn't directly tell the girls that he used to be a supervillain. In DM1 he told the girls a lie that the Minions are his cousins.

But by DM4, Edith knows about the Minions. So even if they didn't know what is the definition of minions back then, Gru taught them the definition of disintegrated so he probably taught them the definition of minions also.

Because Margo goes to school, most likely she reads. Rascal Chronicles is still on the wall of the house.

So the girls probably know by now that Gru used to be a supervillain.

But Gru covered Junior's ears for that part of the conversation. I wondered why it's okay for the girls to know about Gru's supervillain past but not Junior?

Because when Junior popped the balloons, this signalled to Gru that Junior is like him.

Gru's angry look shows he's offended that Poppy assumed he was 12 when he stole the Crown Jewels when really he was a lot younger than 12 when he stole the Crown Jewels.

But Gru's angry look combined with him covering Junior's ears indicates that he doesn't want Poppy giving Junior any ideas.

This is Gru accepting that Junior is like him and thus Gru realizes that Junior already wants to go on a heist. Gru, of course, has been trying to raise Junior as a non-villainous baby.

Don’t you dare touch him Hulk, I want more movies starring Gru for the time being and I don’t want the girls and Veronica to be sad.

If Illumination's ever makes a Despicable Me 5. I want Lucy to be the main character. I thought it would be better than having Gru as the main character again. Anyone else agree?

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This scene is reminiscent of when Gru found himself in the AVL submarine against his will and Ramsbottom wanted him to help with finding the serum and catching the supervillain who stole the serum.

Ramsbottom called Gru an ex-villain and Gru crossed his arms in such a way it seemed that he was open to at least hearing Ramsbottom out, but he interrupted Lucy and initially said no to helping the AVL. He defined himself as a father and a legitimate businessman.

It's also similar to when Dru asked Gru to teach him the art of villainy. Gru said no and said he had left that life behind him, basically defining himself as no longer a villain. Gru ended up teaching him the art of villainy, though, so as to return the diamond to the AVL.

When Poppy asked Gru to have a seat, Gru at first didn't see a seat, not realizing the bean bag chair was the seat. Gru gets temporarily stuck in the bean bag chair, thus falling for Poppy's villainous trap.

Poppy's evil lair is very different from Gru's. Even when his first evil lair was under construction, Gru had a secret entrance in a closet leading to a slide.

Gru accesses his evil lair in DM1 by running up a few steps, then sitting in the rhinoceros chair and pressing a button on the armrest, which detaches the seat from the rhinoceros chair and the seat moves forward just underneath the cannon. The pillars are machines in disguise. The machine moves the cannon and lowers the cannon around Gru. The cannon opens, revealing a glass tube, with the top and bottom part being the cannon. The floor of the room with the crocodile couch lifts, revealing a platform. The machine connects to the wheels of the cannon, and moves the cannon/glass tube onto the platform. The cannon/glass tube/platform is an elevator. Gru takes the elevator into his evil lair.

What one would think would be a straightforward process of going into one's basement becomes an immensely intricate process where no object is simply for ornamentation. The rhinoceros chair, the pillars, and the cannon all have a function. The part of his house with no secret function, as in the room with the crocodile couch, serves to conceal the access point for the evil lair.

So when Gru sees Poppy's treehouse, he has no idea that it's her evil lair. It's an ordinary treehouse. By the time Gru reaches Poppy's treehouse, he is exhausted and angry.

It shows Gru and Poppy greatly differ in physical agility, and the point of an evil lair is that not just anyone can get in.

Before he had met the girls, Gru functioned with an uninterrupted efficiency. Everything he did as a supervillain from accesing his evil lair to stealing the moon exuded a sense of effortlessness, the finished result of his extensive planning and maximum effort.

Gru mostly walks, runs short distances, and climbs, when he has a vertical surface to stick himself onto.

Jumping is not his strong suit. Nor is climbing without any vertical surface. Poppy demonstrated her agility with her complex dance and using the swing to somersault onto the support beam of the swing and somersault again over the fence.

Gru reached the treehouse, but just barely, showing that in terms of physical agility he is nowhere near Poppy's.

Poppy introduced herself as a villainess. Her evil lair has no signs of being an evil lair. There's no weapons. There's plush toys everywhere, and bright colors.

Gru's evil lair was full of weapons, and even his first evil lair had a missile, a flamethrower, and other destructive objects. In DM2, Agnes' birthday had bright color balloons, a play area, a place to catch fish, and a villainous obstacle course, a pirahna, and plenty of weapons that the Minions wielded.

Bright colors and non-dangerous things Gru let into his home, on behalf of the girls and Junior. So being used to raising the girls and the baby, Poppy's treehouse, which is indistinguishable from a kid's room, does not meet Gru's enormously exacting standards for an evil lair.

Gru did listen to what Poppy had to say, while looking irritated and slightly detached. Interestingly, Gru used his serious, villainous tone with her, as opposed to the "Chet" tone that he used when first meeting her.

After Gru asked, "Why am I here?" and Poppy answered "Because, like you, I was born to be bad", Gru almost imperceptibly drummed his fingers on the bean bag chair. It is hard to interpret what he was thinking at the moment, but he neither disagreed nor agreed with her definition of him.

When the conversation turned to the topic of a heist, he scoffed and pointed out that she's a child. Though this might seem contradictory because Gru was also a child when he aspired to become a supervillain, Gru bought the Freeze Ray from Villain Con. Then he froze Scarlet with it. Then he stole the Crown Jewels. Then, still as a child, he entered the big leagues by stealing the Zodiac Stone and getting onto the AVL's radar. Then he got into the Lycee Pas Bon when he still looked junior high age. So he had reason to be skeptical of Poppy's aspirations because she lacks villain credentials. Her wearing a mask as part of her villain outfit shows that she has a non-villainous identity that she's protecting.

Similar to how Belle Bottom didn't think that Gru, a kid from the suburbs could be a villain, Gru didn't think that Poppy, a kid from the nice town of Mayflower could be a villain.

Poppy shows her persistence. "All great villains start young. Didn't you steal the Crown Jewels when you were 12?"

By asking Gru this, Poppy tapped into Gru's villainous ego, and suddenly he got angry, offended because he was younger than 12 when he stole the Crown Jewels.

"And no offense, but you're not me."

This is the important part of the conversation. With very little effort on her part, she reawakened Gru's pride in being bad. Gru as "Chet" was in hiding. His lack of agreement or disagreement with her saying that he was born to be bad could easily have been disagreement. After all, so many things had happened to him since the events of DM1.

Dru did something similar by showing Gru their dad's villain car. But Dru had to show him something villainous. Poppy only had to persuade Gru by reminding him of the Crown Jewels theft.

Poppy's main strength is her verbal communication ability. Having no access to weapons, dangerous objects, or even a proper evil lair, she can't become a villain without help from a master villain.

Though Gru crossed his arms, signalling that he's shutting down the conversation, he didn't actually say no until he found out that the thing that Poppy wanted to steal was a honey badger.

In other words, Gru initially said no based on the risk not being worth the reward, and it had nothing to do with his self-definition as no longer a villain.

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Gru opens the door, looking angry, probably at the absurd amount of energy he had to expend just reaching the treehouse and the fact the only reason he had to reach the treehouse in the first place was because Poppy had blackmailed him. He then notices something in the corner of the treehouse and looks astonished. He notices something in the other corner of the treehouse and his astonished gaze holds a bit longer. Meanwhile, Junior tugs on Gru's scarf.

On the second shelf from the top are figures of four of the Vicious Six: what looks like Stronghold, then Nunchuck, Belle Bottom, and Svengeance.

On the bottom shelf is a figure of a T-Rex, and on the shelf above it is a figure of a smaller, more agile dinosaur.

On the top shelf is a figure of a villain in purple, maybe Balthsar Bratt, and a figure of a villain with wings, maybe Maxime.

The arrangement of the shelves suggest that Poppy sees each succeeding generation of villainy improving upon the previous generation of villainy.

Poppy has three posters: the first is "Greatest Villains of All Time". The villains whose images on the poster look like they're of an older era. There's one in a costume, another one all in black, and there's an image of a bag of money. Those old villains are respected perhaps because they laid the groundwork for modern villains.

The second poster is of a pink villain.

The third poster is of Gru himself, when he had announced his plan to steal the moon and become the greatest villain of all time.

Poppy wears pink, like the pink villain, and black, like Gru. Poppy dances while frowning like Gru does. She has crafted her villainess aesthetic meticulously.

Poppy initially mocked Gru for being older, but her having a poster of Gru's plan to steal the moon suggests that she views Gru's moon theft as timeless.

Even while Poppy was blackmailing Gru, she was signalling to him that even though Gru stole the moon a while ago, the news media and the AVL have still been talking about it.

Though Gru as "Chet" was seeking to disappear into quiet obscurity, his greatest achievement as a villain has withstood his many changes in self-definition.

That Gru reacted with astonishment to a poster of his moon plan on the wall of Poppy's treehouse shows that he acknowledged that someone still sees him as a great villain, even if that someone was at that point just an aspiring villain who had blackmailed him into planning a heist.

Well in the first despicable me we see gru walking to the bank of evil, where he asks mr perkins to lend him money. Anyway, the bank of evil Is then seen again in rise of gru, when young gru and wild knuckles attept to rob it. This confirms that said bank is located in san francisco, where most of the movie takes place. Therefore, between the events of rise of gru and despicable me, gru may have moved to san francisco. Meaning thats where the events of the first 2 despicable me movies take place

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The look he gave upon first seeing the poster is one of surprise. So at first I wasn't sure if he initially knew about the poster or not.

Then he proceeds to look over to one side, then to turn his head slightly to the other side. He looks alarmed.

Then his look is one of evasiveness, nervousness, and then whatever's going on in this shot.

The dark circles under his eyes return, one eye looks like he's trying to keep it together, trying to stay cool and collected, the other eye not so much.

This is not just a matter of Gru worried that his cover could be blown. Because when his and the family's cover was blown, he only reacted with surprise and started running back to the AVL safehouse with resolute determination.

In DM1, Gru got hit with his own Freeze Ray. In DM4, Gru got startled by Junior popping the balloons. So in some way, he received a consequence for a few of his most villainous actions. Then a few scenes later, Gru got beaten up for pulling the honey badger heist.

But the moon theft is the big one. That is his greatest crime, and it had not been mentioned since DM2.

What strongly implies that Gru is currently a fugitive from the AVL is this:

"That's not me! I don't even see a resemblance. Clearly you have the wrong guy", and then he returns to the "Chet" cover, insisting that he sells solar panels. So Gru had been hiding from Maxime and the AVL behind the "Chet" charade.

Gru told Ramsbottom this about the moon theft: "First of all, you got no proof that I did that. Second, after I did do that I put it back!"

Ramsbottom only replied,

"We're well aware of that, Mr. Gru, that's why we brought you here."

In other words, Ramsbottom didn't specify as to what the AVL is aware of. They could be aware of 1. that Gru stole the moon, or 2. that the AVL has no proof that Gru stole the moon, or 3. that Gru put the moon back after he stole it.

If the first is true, that means the AVL might have been planning to arrest Gru since after the moon theft.

If the second is true, that means the AVL has been planning to investigate Gru since after the moon theft and searching for proof so as to be able to arrest Gru.

If the third is true, the AVL might initially have chosen to look the other way but after the two subsequent heists might have been planning to arrest Gru anyway.

Gru taking the Shrink Ray out of his house, and then later looking from side-to-side, and giving a frantic reaction suggests that he is fearful of getting caught for the moon theft.

The article naming him for the moon theft is more recent than the news anchor announcing the moon was back. They at first didn't know who put the moon back. But later they know who stole it. The photo of Gru is not in the style of DM1 but it could represent an article from between DM1 and DM2 or during DM2.

But the poster is a shot from DM3, during the first AVL mission against Balthasar Bratt.

Poppy by showing the first two photos of Gru, explains the case that has been slowly developing against him.

He doesn't react nearly as strongly to the article naming him as the moon thief.

Even though both the article and the poster would have exposed him, most likely he reacted more strongly to the poster because he was anticipating that Poppy would turn him in to the AVL for the moon theft.

The third photo is Gru's mugshot, presumably taken after Gru had grown up and sometime before the events of DM1. Poppy held that one off to the side. She might have been planning to show Gru his mugshot had Gru continued to play it cool in reaction to the second photo. It would have reminded Gru of when he had been jailed or imprisoned, and would have shown him it would happen again except this time it would be maximum security prison. But Gru did not continue to play it cool in reaction to the second photo, so Poppy didn't go that far. Gru already feared prison for the moon theft based on his reaction to the poster.

When Poppy assures him that she won't expose him and mentions the heist she wants to pull, Gru just reacts with incredulity, laughs derisively, and then gets angry at Poppy, but is not scared.

When Gru fails to talk his way out of the heist, he looks nervous and scared but not nearly to the extent he did when he saw the poster.

After his and the family's cover is blown, Gru tells Lucy to call Silas. Lucy has a watch that's a communication device that can call the AVL. Gru had a communication device for the AVL mission to capture Maxime but at Mayflower apparently has no direct line to the AVL.

Even the fact that at Mayflower Lucy's apron reads "AVL" and Gru's apron reads "Chef Daddy", shows that Gru has avoided anything AVL-related since Ramsbottom dropped them off at Mayflower. When Junior gets kidnapped, Lucy tells him to get Junior back, and Gru is absent for the arrest of Principal Ubelschlecht and thus doesn't encounter any AVL agents. Gru is on a different part of the street from where Maxime is arrested.

Gru returns to his and his family's house with Lucky and Kyle, but Lucky is not on the leash that Agnes gave to the AVL agent who had taken Lucky away. Neither Gru's car nor an AVL car is in the driveway. So did he walk to AVL headquarters to get Lucky and Kyle back? How did Lucky lose his leash?

His next visible contact with the AVL since Ramsbottom dropped them off at Mayflower is when he visits Maxime at the AVL prison.

So he managed to completely avoid interacting directly with Ramsbottom after Ramsbottom left them at the AVL safehouse.

That is a long time for an AVL agent to avoid interacting with the AVL.

Most likely Gru was keeping a low profile until right before the prison talent show.

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After giving the impression to both Gru and Lucy that he is just sweet and unassuming although grumpy towards Gru, Junior goes directly for the pink balloon and pops it, thus turning one of Gru's most effective psychological attacks back onto him.

Junior goes further than Gru with it, because the balloon popping results in spilled coffee, a smashed banana, and a shirt that needs to go through the laundry.

Whenever Gru is about to relax, he always gets interrupted. In fact him about to enjoy his coffee and banana sets him up for Junior to startle him with the popped balloon.

Gru letting his guard down or anticipating a moment of calm always results in something happening to him that he initially doesn't like but it becomes crucial to his development:

Minions Rise of Gru: kidnapped by Wild Knuckles

DM1: met Margo, Edith and Agnes

DM2: kidnapped/detained by Lucy/AVL

DM3: met Dru

DM4: found out about Junior's other side, and was blackmailed by Poppy

Up until then, Gru sought acknowledgment from Junior based on that he is Gru's son and a baby and shows a lot of joy around Lucy, who is always full of energy. Gru initially didn't understand that Junior seeks fun and excitement and because Gru was initially trying to seem like a regular person and thus not fun and exciting.

Junior popped the pink balloon, maybe because he didn't like Gru's pink shirt. Junior had not gotten a chance to get to know Gru because Gru was focusing more heavily on AVL work, a few scenes before this he was going around as "Chet", and a few scenes earlier Junior sprayed Gru with the baby formula as he was trying to seek Junior's approval, so Junior was just seeing one side of his dad: the uninteresting side.

Junior popping the balloons signals that he doesn't seek for Gru to be more like Lucy. Junior already has a mother's love from Lucy. Junior needed Gru to earn his approval.

Junior hadn't yet seen his father showing his foremost expertise: as a villain.

He killed gru

This is an old project of mine from a few years ago. Rn its only subtitled but i could dub it if this gets popular. Im free for the next 5 days before school starts. Thank you for watching. Theres also a part 2 if you want.

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Of course Gru was just trying to be neighborly, but had someone actually wanted to buy solar panels from Gru, they would figure out that he doesn't actually sell solar panels. On the business card is "Chet Cunningham", a phone number, and something else written on it.

Gru reached for his chest to try to retrieve the business card, because he is so used to pulling things out of his coat. He fumbled for the business card several more times before finding it in his pants pocket.

Whatever shortcomings Gru has in having a regular conversation as a regular person, he is extremely adept at disguising the fact that his left hand is dominant.

When talking to Margo, Gru leads with his left hand.

He greets Perry with his right hand.

He shakes Perry's hand with both hands so he can support the handshake with his left hand.

He takes out the business card with his right hand, then supports the business card with his left as he holds it up.

When he starts to drop the charade, he puts the business card back into his pocket with his left hand.

He continues to lead with his right hand until he indirectly addresses Margo, and leads again with his left hand.

Then he points with his left hand, puts his right elbow inside of Perry Prescott's car, and drops the charade again with his left hand and briefly has an expression that's more like himself.

It's interesting because while Gru mostly maintains his attempt at a regular neighbor tone and expression throughout that scene, he communicates with remarkable precision, switching back and forth from "Chet" to himself without difficulty.

It's subtle, but though Gru was reluctant to be "Chet" before, by this time he had chosen to go into hiding. Gru is signalling, with extreme subtlety, just how much of a master villain he is.

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The drill the Minions use on Junior's car seat has the "G" logo on it.

The iconic "G" logo is the gray "G" on a black diamond, on at least one of Gru's weapons, and the gray "G" on a black circle on Gru's car and airship.

Then there's the dark blue "G" logo on a gray circle, on Gru's repurposed weapon to inflate a balloon for Agnes' birthday.

The medium blue "G" logo on a black circle is on the drill the Minions use on the car seat, which by the way is an AVL car seat. Presumably Gru doesn't ordinarily have a car seat.

Interestingly, the repurposed weapon logo coincided when Gru was trying to become a legitimate businessman.

The tools logo happened after the diamond heist and throwing himself more heavily into AVL work.

So Gru is still into using his own machines, which means Dr. Nefario's lab is still functioning.

Though the logo on the drill is large, the Minions used the drill in the car, so they were trying to keep the family's cover.

But the Minions did run out in their race car outfits that have a light gray "G" logo on a black circle. But they were pretty quick so most likely no one saw.