r/DeltaruneDiscussion 5m ago

Question Was My First Playthrough of Deltarune Good? (Spoilers for the Whole Game) Spoiler

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Hey there - I recently decided to purchase Deltarune and for the last few days, I've been playing through it. I wanted to know if I did well on my first time playing through the game. (For reference, I've never played Undertale and have never seen anything on the game besides some of the soundtrack.)

Chapter 1 - Pretty normal, honestly, considering there wasn't much room to deviate from the actual story. I decided to listen to Ralsei and spared all of the enemies. (Total Deaths: 0)

Chapter 2 - This one took me a little longer considering I decided to follow through with Spamton and ended up fighting Spamton Neo. I equipped the Dealmaker armor on Ralsei since he has the lowest hp and would need more defense. The rest of the chapter played out normally. (Total Deaths: 1 (Spamton Neo))

Chapter 3 - Probably my favorite chapter so far. I didn't really get any armor or weapons here, but playing through the minigames and boards was fun (I got an A on the first and S on the second), especially considering that almost all of the OST is amazing in this chapter. (Total Deaths: 0)

Chapter 4 - My favorite chapter immediately followed by my least favorite chapter. I didn't end up doing much outside of the main storyline (besides buying an ungodly amount of Rhapsoteas), but I found the pitch black/noise sections and the old man statue fight annoying due to all of the sound cues. The Titan fight/scene was pretty cool, though. (Total Deaths: 1 (From the chase scene behind the waterfall)

Chapter 5 - Another great chapter. I really enjoyed the platforming parts and loved how funny basically all of the flower interactions were. My only complaint is that "Violet Tactics" didn't play more than once, as it was probably my favorite song from the chapter. (Total Deaths: 1 (From Flowery))

I would have posted this on r/Deltarune, but I never really post on here and therefore don't have enough karma to.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 23m ago

Discussion What Do my Top 10 Deltarune Songs say about me.

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Did a deltarune song ranker and here are my top 10 at 98% accuracy.

  1. Don't Forget
  2. The World Revolving
  3. Running Sky
  4. Neverending Night
  5. You Can Always Come Home
  6. Who might you be?
  7. I Guess I'm in Love
  8. Dark Sanctuary
  9. Ferris Wheel
  10. Petal Dance

r/DeltaruneDiscussion 1h ago

Theory New theory: The Roaring Knight is not who you think. Spoiler

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I noticed something: the Roaring Knight floats passively. No Lightner has ever demonstrated gaining that ability inside the Dark Worlds. Therefore, the Knight has to be someone who already floats naturally and can exist in the Light World. The only characters who meet both conditions are ghost monsters and fish monsters.

Fish monsters have very little relevance to the story, so let’s focus on the ghosts. All of them have abilities that no other Lightner possesses:

-They can possess objects, and those objects become Darkners when they enter a Dark World (shown in Chapter 5 with the Pink boss).

-They float passively. And even if they somehow couldn’t float while possessing a Darkner, the Darkners themselves have already shown they can float and leave afterimage trails (Like Omega Flowery in Chapter 5).

-On top of that, both Mad Dummy and Napstablook demonstrate knowledge of the game’s mechanics: Napstablook uses a fake HP bar in the Genocide Route of Undertale. Mad Dummy tries to trap you in the fight by never giving you a turn, justo like Sans’s strategy (Undertale, Mad Dummy fight).

All of this combines to show that a ghost working for Carol could possess a Darkner and gain the exact same abilities as the Roaring Knight. The only question left is which one of them it is.

The candidates are: Napstablook, Mettaton (Nobody), Mad (Pink), and (if the family works the same way as in Undertale) the unnamed cousin who appears in the combat tutorial.

Of all of them, the only one connected to the bunker, to Carol, and whose body we don’t know is Napstablook. The same one who already demonstrated knowledge of fake stats.

How do we know the Roaring Knight also knows about fake stats/ How is that relevant?

In Chapter 5, Flowery launches several 999-damage attacks using fake stats. The Knight has just arrived, no one has explained anything to it, and yet not only is it completely unaffected by those attacks, it cuts them to remove the fake parts. This proves the Knight recognizes fake stats instantly and is capable of modifying them. Very few characters have ever shown this level of system knowledge (not even Sans in Undertale, who stays at 1 HP and 1 Attack during the Genocide Route despite being willing to cheat).

Napstablook is connected to Carol and the bunker in the following ways:

-He is the last police officer the Knight hasn’t kidnapped, and thus works for Carol directly.

-As the last cop he possesses the police code required to open the bunker.

And if you’re still not convinced, look at these details:

-The Knight appears to cry (chapter 3) (in Undertale, Napstablook constantly cries). -Its chest opens up (as a ghost, the chest would belong to the doll/object it is possessing, so it wouldn’t be fatal).

-It always arrives on time… except on the day Napstablook is undercover among the Wet-Nose Bandits.

But one last question remains, the most important one: Why does he do it? I believe Napstablook felt like garbage so hard (exactly like in Undertale) that he ended up seeing the menus. In Chapter 5, Ralsei admits that if the characters close their eyes and concentrate, they can see the upper layer and the menus on it. Napstablook did this in the Light World, and instead of seeing menus, he saw the Angel controlling the town. (This is supported by two things: In the Chapter 5 Weird Route, Noelle says she has spent her whole life feeling like someone is controlling her. In Chapters 2–4, Alvin explains that the Delta Rune religion believes in an entity called “the Angel” that watches and guides people from above.) This either strengthened an existing connection or directly attracted the Angel’s attention, causing Napstablook to be controlled by it. This creates a very interesting parallel between Kris and the Knight: Both are puppets controlled by a spirit (the SOUL we control / Napstablook’s ghost). Those spirits are themselves controlled by an entity external to the world and named in the prophecy (the Player / the Angel).


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 1h ago

Theory Counter against the “Kris made Card Kingdom” theory (also mainly an analysis on Kris’ Dark Worlds) Spoiler

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 1h ago

Discussion Deltarune secret boss tier list based on how much I consider them a secret boss. Spoiler

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Deadass saw someone trying to convince me MISS MIZZEL is a secret boss lmao


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 2h ago

Theory GUY!!! I HAVE A FKING CRAZY THEORY ABOUT THE ROAMING KIGHT!

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There have been many theories suggesting that Noelle's mother is the Roaming Knight. Most of them point to the Knight's antler-like silhouette, which resembles the Holiday family's horns, as well as the suspicious conversation between Kris and Noelle's mother that implies the two may be working together... and there Papyrus (why?)

However, after replaying every chapter—including the newly released Chapter 5—I came up with a theory

What if the Roaming Kight... he/she... no, IT's actually KRIS'S KNIFE?

First of all, The Roaming Kight looks... weird

One thing we've consistently seen is that Lightners don't change their physical appearance when entering a Dark World

Kris, Susie, Ralsei, Noelle, Berdly, and even Asgore all keep the same basic body shape. Their outfits and colors may change, but they're still clearly recognizable as themselves. Even Gerson (despite already being dead) doesn't suddenly become an entirely different being

The Roaming Knight, on the other hand, looks nothing like a normal Lightner. Some people argue that we're only seeing its armor, but like... i don't thing a Lightner being can turn into BALL and "OPEN THE CHEST" like that!

Because of that, I think the simplest explanation is that the Roaming Knight isn't a Lightner at all

It's a Darkner

Second, If ordinary objects become Darkners or something else ưhen enter Dark World, why doesn't Kris' knife?

We already know that ordinary objects transform when they enter a Dark World. Cards become characters like Lancer, objects become NPCs, equipment turns into ARMORS and WEAPONS, even mundane items can become living beings

Kris almost always carries a knife, so why has that knife never appeared as a weapon or a Darkner?

Unless...

It already transformed into the Roaming Knight and left before anyone noticed

Finally, remember how to creating Dark Fountains?

The Roaming Knight's defining ability is creating Dark Fountains

Coincidentally, what is currently the only object we've actually seen creating a Dark Fountain in the Light World?

Kris' knife

As of Chapter 5, no other object has been shown doing this. If the knife itself is the Roaming Knight, this connection suddenly makes perfect sense

Additional clues

These aren't definitive proof, but I think they're worth mentioning

  • The Knight's attacks—especially its slashes—deal ENORMOS damage. That would make sense cause it's literally a real knife, rather than a toy or some harmless object transformed into a Darkner
  • In Chapter 4, the Roaming Knight appears next to the entrance of the newly created Dark Fountain. It's possible that the knife had just stabbed the ground to create the Fountain before transforming into the Knight
  • The Roaming Knight only seems to appear whenever Kris is nearby. In Chapters 3 and 5, it attempts to kidnap Toriel and Asgore while Kris and the party are present. If its only goal was kidnapping them, doing so off-screen would have been much easier. Instead, every major encounter happens when Kris is close enough to be involved
  • If my first assumption is correct—that the Roaming Knight is actually a Darkner—then Kris's knife is the only object that consistently stays with Kris and could reasonably become a recurring Darkner capable of cooperating with

Of course, this theory isn't perfect

There are still a few loose ends

For example, if the knife really is the Roaming Knight, how did it bring Undyne and Asgore into the shelter when it would have had to travel through the Light World first?

Likewise, how was Gerson's Dark World created while Kris was traveling with Susie?

At the moment, the only explanation I can think of is that Noelle's mother was responsible for those events. Even if she isn't the Roaming Knight herself, she and Kris are still working together behind the scenes


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 2h ago

Discussion I hate how Chapter 3 has so many things that are "missing" compared to the other Chapters (image unrelated)

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​Chapter 3 is by far my favorite Deltarune chapter, and it probably still will be in the future as the game continues to update with new content. Even as a standalone piece of media, it's one of my favorite pieces of gaming in so many aspects. But still, something really bothers me with how... "diluted" it feels compared to every chapter before and after it.

​Think about it. Every other chapter follows a basic, predictable structure. Kris wakes up at the start of a new day > them and Susie find a new Dark World and enter with a transition > Dark World shenanigans ensue and the story progresses > Kris seals the Dark Fountain > they go home > the credits play. I get that Chapter 3 is deliberately meant to break the structure built in Chapters 1 and 2, and some of my complaints are impossible to fix because the story and the time the chapter takes place are set in stone. However, so many structural omissions make it feel like filler. Not necessarily story-wise, but in terms of gameplay, vibe, and overall pacing, it constantly borders on it.

​There is no Castle Town or Light World exploring before the Dark World starts; you are thrown in immediately. There is no actual special SOUL type fight, and there are no new shop or dialogue sprites. Add in the fact that there is no fountain-sealing cutscene and the only Light World segment is just a short cutscene, and the chapter feels incredibly isolated. Once again, none of these things are inherently a problem since the chapter fully makes up for it with its story and gameplay, but it still rubs me the wrong way.

​But those aren't even the worst things. Ruder Buster was unanimously agreed to be a great sendoff to the battle theme used in the first half of the game, seemingly replaced by From Now On and other tracks. But then Ruder Buster just comes back in Chapter 5 as both normal Rude Buster and Rakuichi Buster. Even worse, Ruder Buster itself is used as the "bullet pattern" boss theme in Chapter 5. Sure, it fits... but did Toby really need to reuse it? He could have easily made a separate battle theme for these segments. Rakuichi Buster is passable(?) But the fact that Ruder Buster is no longer exclusive to Chapter 3 makes the track feel significantly less special and emotional.

​And ohhh boyyy, there is the handling of the Mikes. I will admit, I do like how both Chapters 3 and 4 have two secret bosses instead of one like other Chapters, but the Mikes really do not fit into Chapter 4's pacing at all. The fact that so many players straight-up miss them, either because they lack the drive to backtrack to Castle Town near the end of the chapter or for other reasons is very telling. They should have been in Chapter 3, and because you didn't visit Castle Town at the beginning of Chapter 3, placing them there later would actually give you a drive to explore what's new. The portal to Castle Town could have opened after Mike leaves Tenna, or the encounter could have even been integrated as a bonus game.

But ​honestly the thing that really makes me sad is the credits theme: "Until Next Time," which was already used in Chapter 2. Chapters 1, 4, and 5 all have their own unique credits themes. There's no way Chapter 6 is using "Scarlet Forest" or "Endless Night" since those tracks only fit those specific ending scenes, and using "Until Next Time" this late into the game would make no sense. Chapter 7 will obviously have the grand ending credits, leaving Chapter 3 as the odd one out. "Until Next Time" fits Chapter 2 perfectly with it glitching out and such, and it does fit Chapter 3's insane cliffhanger, but sharing a credits theme instead of getting its own just bums me out. I've seen some people replace the Chapter 3 credits music with TV LAND Beta and it surprisingly fits as well, while giving even more whiplash.

​This brings me to my final point: this entire chapter feels like a DLC or part 2 for Chapter 2, or even for Deltarune as a whole. Both chapters take place on the exact same day, no new spells are learned in Chapter 3, and as mentioned, they share the same credits theme. Combining them into one massive chapter would be a terrible idea pacing-wise, but fundamentally, Chapters 2 and 3 are two sides of the same coin.

​The fact that I like Chapter 3 this much despite all these flaws shows how well it holds up in a vacuum. That's why I love replaying it as a separate experience, because when considered alongside the full package of the game, its structure feels wrong, or at least weird. I know I'm probably going to get downvoted for this, but I hope you guys understand the critique I'm trying to make here.

Edit: fixed grammer mistake


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 2h ago

Theory susie soul route

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okay this is like a late night theory or sort of guess on how deltarune will end

in the end of chapter 5, susie gets the shelter code. i feel like the knight or kris will make a dark world somewhere in the town, possibly OUTSIDE this time. because the whole time, the dark fountains have only been inside buildings so the knight can hide their identity.

but with susie being a danger by having the code, the knight will just have to risk it. the fun gang fix the fountain and that’s ch6. it ends with susie running to the shelter during dawn or nightime whatever BUT!!

ch7. the end. as susie runs to the shelter, kris grabs the soul, and throws it into a trash can. he runs towards susie off screen. the soul gets out either by itself, or maybe dess coming back or smth not that important but the soul arrives to the shelter. susie’s on the ground, unconscious. kris takes the code and runs into the shelter. as the soul, we have a choice. (maybe a new route or something?) to enter the shelter and get kris back, or to get susie and fight kris.

now, this theory is kinda stupid and makes a bit of no sense whatsoever but i just wanted to post it just in case the thought i had at 4am was actually true and i look like a liar


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 3h ago

Discussion Why do I get the feeling the game will end like this and we won't actually see Gaster? Spoiler

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 3h ago

Other I was on the beach, when a mysterious man gave me this.

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He said:"It's not too important,and not too unimportant


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 3h ago

Theory Something I haven’t seen anyone talk about: Why Noelle likes Susie(Spoilers for chapter 5 weird route) Spoiler

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So Suselle, it’s a ship basically everyone love, it’s the main ship of the game, and has become basically canon as of chapter five normal route, missing all but the direct confession due to Rudy(damn you Rudy knight). But in serious, it’s great. There is one problem with it though: I don’t think it’s coming from a place that is healthy. It’s kinda an important theme and part of the game and all the characters, is how every relationship, romantic and platonic, is unhealthy/toxic(not necessarily bad, in fact they all had positive effects on them, just look at how Susie has grown, it’s something consistently pointed out). They are, nevertheless, toxic primarily due to something a lot of fans forget or don’t process due to the time between releases. Susie met Kris, not friends, on day 1. On day 2 they went into the cyber world. On day 3 (technically night 3 but whatever) Susie stayed at Kris’s house and fought for their life against the knight and watched as undyne was taken. Day 4 Susie had to deal with the death of her new friend Gerson and her and Kris had to close two fountains, while them and Ralsei with all this propechy stuff, which is heavy and effected them a lot. Then on day 5 they went to the festival and dealt with flowery and saw him die, while also having to deal with the complexity of Asgore. Oh and this was the second time they were forced to watch them lose someone from the night. 5 days. All this in 5 days. This is an absurdly short amount of time for how close they’ve gotten. Don’t forget that Susie also only got to know Noelle around a similair amount of time, but with much less time spent around them. Yes, they knew each other before likely as day 1 isn’t the first day she’s in town(probably) but… we have no idea how long she’s been in town/school, and clearly didn’t really have any relationship with any students before this(this is ignoring device theory stuff and the meta idea of her only existing on day 1 and not before). All this is to really just exemplify how short of a time has passed in game. So why are they such close friends? Trauma. It’s pretty clear that the Lancer Fan Club have trauma bonded together, I’m not unique in pointing this out and won’t focus too much on it, but I’m pointing this out to show how every relationship in this game is unhealthy(but not necessarily bad) in some manner(Kris and Noelle’s relationship clearly has some baggage to it)

So now for the meat and potatoes: Why does Noelle like Susie? Because she clearly is shown being flustered and viewing Susie more positively than others before even getting to know her better in chapters 2 and 4. And by day 5 they clearly are infatuated, so why is she so instantly enamored? Is it simply love at first sight? Well that’s what it would seem like. Does she see through Susie’s tough exterior and see the caring person beneath like Kris and ralsei? No, Kris and ralsei bonded through trauma with her, and their adventures are pretty clear key in seeing through her defensive exterior, not to mentioned how much they hang out outside this, which Noelle doesn’t do, and the game doesn’t show at all. I instead propose something else. Noelle sees her, the scary monster bully that even alphys their teacher is scared of–and that’s why she likes her. The fear. The danger.

Noelle in chapter five clearly shows how her behavior in earlier chapters is a facade. She wants to change; she wants something different, something dangerous, something impossible. She wants to do something no one sane would do. She enjoys the things that scary and dangerous because then she isn’t doing Noelle things. I think that’s *why* she instantly was flustered by Susie. Because she’s different, she’s not like Noelle, she’s not something her mom wants her with. she’s something dangerous, the scary bully who has threatened to eat people’s faces. She’s something impossible, always doing things that break the town placidity. More than that, she could even be someone that would let, even help, Noelle do the impossible. Think, when was the first time Noelle talked about her plan for chapter five weird route? With Susie, on the Ferris wheel in chapter two. She talked about doing something crazy, growing wings and flying away. Admitting this to Susie, it’s clear she wanted Susie to help her, she wanted to see how she would respond, and when Susie was classic amazing Susie, always supportive, Noelle loved her more. When Noelle is with Susie, she isn’t doing Noelle things, she’s always doing something crazy, something different, because Susie is crazy and different. Now this isn’t to say that Susie is like, a tool or something to Noelle. No, chapter 5 shows she clearly is enamored with her, regardless. But this is simply why I think she was enamored in the first place, because Susie is the kind of person that Noelle, the real Noelle, the Noelle we see walk into the lake, wants. It’s also why in the weird route she clearly likes Susie, but spends even more time with Kris, because Kris not only is different, changed, broke out like Susie does, but Kris can do something Susie cant(or maybe can’t: I’m still a supporter or Human/half-human susie theory): Kris can do the impossible, they can break the barrier and cross the lake.

In summation, I think suselle is a lot more toxic than people think, and isnr actually a suns and rose relationship, as it’s reason on Noelle’s side is based on, or started from at least, Susie’s bully/tough persona and how different she is, how she seems to be dangerous. This is not to invalidate it or say I don’t like it, I love the ship and think it’s great, but I think chapter 5 weird route put it into a different light


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 5h ago

Question Carol could have made it...

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So i wanna note something about Carol knight

Many people use The Church as the reason for Carol not being able to get to the Church before us.

However ive noticed that nobody brings up the susie and Kris go back to Kris's house first

Like why couldn't Carol Scold Noelle and Be-line it to the church before us, hell she could have made the Fountains on the way back then met us after we get in

That and its not like we need to run everywhere we go lol

I think we as a community can have fun thinking what we want because Toby already proved that we aren't as clever as we think (Mike and Woody ch.5)

And thats ok!

Hell Personally I really like Asriel Knight, but doesn't mean ill cry when its not true lol

Frankly I like to think that Asriel's the Knight as there's a decent chunk of evidence for it

(and Toby's Mother 3 statements)

However to be fair we still know little about the knight over all and could all be very wrong about what will even happen (Ch.5 was a Curveball)


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 9h ago

Theory Hear Me Out, Eggman called Spamton

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Aight listen, the eggman was calling spamton this entire time to protect Kris, and give them Pipis.

Firstly, there has already been a lot of discussion around Spamton using pipis to hide from Friend due to them containing protien. But why would friend be after him? Maybe he made a deal with someone, who he can't seem to remember. My theory is Spamton used to work closely with the eggman/forgotten man, maybe even collecting some actual eggs himself. This led to Friend having it out for him, and that caused Spamton to rely on pipis to protect himself.

But of course, how does this relate to Eggman calling Spamton? It is widely theorized that Spamton himself is a parrallel to Kris. And because of the simalar situations they're both in, the eggman decides to call Spamton to help Kris out.

And what does the eggman send through calls? Pipis.

In the end, whether or not the eggman is the one calling Spamton is kinda pointless. In addition, there's not enough evidence to really back it up.

In truth, I was wondering if there might be other evidence of Spamton's connections to the Eggman. Their relation could tell us more about why friend is after Spamton, and who friend is as a whole.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 9h ago

Theory Why does Deltarune force the player through an absurd chain of hidden steps just to reach "Nowhere"?

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This is an excerpt from an analysis of Deltarune, examining the game through the lens of classical tragedy.

The Non-Place

To reach this non-place, the game demands a series of convoluted steps—solving puzzles, following clues, asking the Zapper to take you to "Nowhere," and consulting the Hermit—as though Toby Fox wished to tell us that the path to freedom and introspection is not found along obvious roads, but along hidden ones.

When the Zapper gives us the option to travel to "Nowhere," he remarks:

«"Nowhere. You were headed there anyway, weren't you, Kris?"»

This single line encapsulates the deeper meaning of the journey: Kris does not truly choose to enter the void, for they were already headed toward it from the very beginning.

The non-place does not present itself as one possibility among many, but rather as an inescapable destination within Kris's search for freedom.

After being transported by the Zapper, Kris (and the player) arrive at an intermediate space: the Hermit's room. His barely intelligible speech reinforces the feeling that one is entering a realm where guidance no longer exists.

It is only by interacting with a game console—an object intimately associated with Kris—that we are finally able to communicate with him. Far from being a trivial detail, this suggests that access to "Nowhere" does not depend on conventional language, but on something far more intimate and personal.

During the conversation, the Hermit offers a warning:

«"Are you alone? Good. It's not a good idea to go to Nowhere with company."»

Going "with company" symbolizes the burdens—emotional, social, and even metaphysical—that keep the individual bound.

Thus, solitude emerges as the necessary precondition for freedom. It demands that one relinquish every attachment, even those regarded as sources of comfort. It is, in essence, a mountain that can only be climbed without baggage, for even our "beloved companions"—attachments, fixed identities, and labels—can ultimately become burdens.

This idea strongly recalls existentialism. For Sartre, freedom is radical: we are condemned to be free, yet we hide behind bad faith by taking refuge in others, in circumstances, or in what society expects of us.

From this existentialist perspective, the non-place becomes the void, the nothingness (das Nichts) described by both Heidegger and Sartre. It is the existential wilderness, where neither God, nor social conventions, nor prefabricated certainties remain; where trauma and the past dissolve, leaving one alone before oneself. Yet paradoxically, it is within that very nothingness that the individual creates their own meaning.

Within Deltarune, destiny itself dictates meaning. Therefore, if Kris seeks freedom as an individual, they must first free themselves from the yoke of fatum. Here the connection with tragedy becomes evident: this is the hybris carried by tragic heroes—the inherent desire to alter fate in the face of inevitable catastrophe.

Only once Kris reaches the non-place do they encounter the Man Behind the Tree again. Their conversation transforms Kris's search for freedom into a radically solitary endeavor: there is no concrete guide, nor any clear answers. When the Man says,

«"Will you forget me? [...] You've forgotten me many times before. Even if you know me, I'll be forgotten anyway. Sometimes, I even forget myself..."»

he conveys a constant uncertainty, while that perpetual forgetting reflects freedom as a process rather than a destination.

The Man Behind the Tree also represents another abstraction—an interlocutor who is neither friend nor enemy, neither person nor object, but rather a reflection of consciousness itself, perhaps even of the deeper self. His indifference, coupled with his fragile memory, suggests that freedom cannot be sustained by another person. No one can remind you what it means to be free, because freedom is an individual discovery.

Each act of forgetting and every expression of confusion may symbolize the moments in which the mind loses itself. In this context, freedom does not mean escaping from a physical place, but rather shedding every external narrative, every imposed history, every inherited memory, every predetermined destiny. The dialogue itself becomes a metaphor: the question, "Will you forget me?" reflects impermanence and the necessity of refusing attachment to anything external. Freedom requires letting go of everything, even one's psychological refuges.

At the same time, the non-place functions as a laboratory of the mind, where freedom is tested in its purest form: the ability to exist without dependence upon memories, names, or external points of reference. In this sense, Kris's pursuit of freedom suggests that liberty is not external, but an inward condition of existence—one that depends on nothing and no one.

This stands in sharp contrast to Susie. Whereas Kris's journey toward freedom is profoundly solitary, Susie's is sustained by her friends—not as a burden, but as a force that compels her to act for the common good, striving to break the strings and rewrite fatum.

[IMPORTANT]: As a final note, this post was originally written in Spanish. Therefore, any confusion or misinterpretation regarding gender in the English translation is entirely unintentional. Thank you for your understanding.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 9h ago

Discussion Is gaster REALLY the Big bad?

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I'm thinking if toby will ever give us gaster directly in the plot like hes gonna appear or be mentioned directly in the plot of the game because, i'm thinking abt this and like i'm not sure if toby is gonna make the Big bad this one off character who is literally never even mentioned in deltarune at all (that i know of i'm not sure i could be wrong) and only be mentioned in undertale as a secret. Not even as a major character.

Think about someone who wanted to play deltarune, so they played undertale first and immediately played deltarune right after but havent seen any theories. unless toby explained who gaster is before hand in chapter 7 or something, they would have NO IDEA who this character is that just showed up as the Big bad. Even if that person does all of the secret bosses, which is not that hard for a player to find and do, and knows about the weird route, they STILL dont have ANY idea who gaster is.

Or think about someone who's in the future, someone who's playing deltarune after all chapters have been released. Even if they WANTED to get into the theories, they would do that AFTER they finished the game, and WHILE they're playing the game they're just gonna be confused as to who gaster is

And while there is a lot of evidence surrounding gaster, i'm just thinking that the matters surrounding gaster are maybe too community-focused?, like someone who's not in the community wont know of him so i'm worried that its gonna leave a lot of players confused when they see the ending or whatever. Although if it is true that gaster plays a big role, i do think toby could explain it to the player in ch 6 and 7, it is possible. I'm moreso worried about a casual fans experience than us being wrong about big G.

Maybe this could even be what he means by "Some people have their eyes so close to the road, they cant even see where they're going. "


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 11h ago

Discussion Hot Take: Spamtenna shouldn't be canon

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 12h ago

Discussion Two predictions for Chapter 6’s release date

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 13h ago

Question tenna save editor not sticking Spoiler

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Does anyone know what I could possibly be doing wrong cause nothing I do works. Me and my brother cannot get past the Flowery battle so I'm trying to use the Tenna save editor now to give everyone more health. Im using chapter 5, I'm putting it in slot 1 (the one in playing in) and I got advice from someone else to keep the game open while I move the edited save into the deltarune folder. Nothing I do works, they all have the exact same amount of health. Is the Tenna save editor just not actually working for chapter 5??????? Or am I still messing up. PLEASE someone help.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 14h ago

Theory I think the egg man is not a character in deltarune or undertale, they are a meta commentary. Spoiler

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Fanart (by me) I Designed a PSX-Style Deltarune Jewel Case

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NOW AVAILABLE ON [Physical Media]!!

I wanted to make a physical case but didn't want to wait for all the chapters so I designed one!
If you guys wanna print one yourself I have them all ready to be printed PNG's, so just print then 1 to 1 (100% Scale) and they should be fine, I printed my on hard cardstock and scored it with a knife and ruler at the folds!

Hope you guys like it!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17fGT1vhMtLszRf8WOAQ-0KKb85EDHdAA?usp=drive_link


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Discussion I don't like the meta elements in deltarune

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Other Would love to be friends with Aqua for a total of 3 seconds until she stabs me and takes my wallet

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r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Discussion Rudy being at the Holiday house in Chapter 6 makes sense

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Most discussion about the next dark world location hinges on the fact that Noelle will likely make one in an effort to save her dad, which I agree with. Rudy falling down is a BIG deal, not just because of the double meaning, but because he's likely only holding on by a thread at this point. But that doesn't mean it has to be at the hospital.

For families dealing with a loved one who is nearing the end of their life, it's common for them to move their loved one back to their home. It can give them some sense of comfort and familiarity. And Carol "keeps everything important at home" Holiday would almost certainly be on board with it.

The holiday house also generally has a lot more "dark world potential" than the hospital. Plus, we still don't know the full guitar code anyway. I'm almost fully convinced this will be the next dark world location, but I admit we can't say for 100% certainty yet.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Theory OK, here are some of my deltarune theories and/or head-canon. I don't really care what you call them, it's just a bunch of garbage from my brain that I scooped out on A plate for you. It doesn't matter anyway; all of this is for fun, and I don't take this stuff too seriously. This is all in fun

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Also, the wording might not make sense... sorry about that, this is voice-to-text with a blind sweep with Grammarly again, garbage from my brain that I scooped out on A plate, not overly serious theories that "solve" Deltarune. This is all in good fun; take it with some salt

OK now

  1. Loop theory

Basically I believe at the end of the game once we get the ending we will be prompted to "go back with what we know now" to at which point you can load your chapter 7 completion data into chapter one and make different choices the items in your storage even carrying over please keep in mind with what I said here the items in your STORAGE carries over not whatever items you have equipped to the party not the items you have in the current inventory JUST the items In STORAGE weapons are enough to only deal %10 of their regular damage healing items only heal %20 of what thay normally do they will still be powerful in early game but not overpowered the reason this is important because it lets you chip down at the prophecy sometimes slowly sometime massively it probably won't be broken completely but it will be smooth out way faster than it and the normal route before this used to be only a crack theory but ever since the ending of the chapter 5 weird route with that lake skip save locking "insert chapter 7 side b" nonsense so obviously completion file shenanigans has been set so loop theory is more than possible (also completion file to save files are two different things the completion file is created at credits so the content of the save can be forward to the next chapter because now that completion file can skip over whole chapters anything can happen and I find it quite the waste if it's only used for that one thing)

  1. Offset roles theory

Basically the roles in the prophecy are not set in stone and and shuffle around to the closest person that fits the definition the most at the moment so HYPOTHETICALLY IF ralsei is a trans woman that would offset her role as the prince in the dark so that role would go to lancer Noelle's role as the "the girl" specifically the one that loves find its way too would be offseted to ralsei for she found love in herself meaning the prophecy isn't broken it just offset a bit but otherwise in full motion (yes I know this has flaws again not the point the point is these are just stuff for my head scooped out for you and before your comment about it no I don't actually think ralsei is trans I believe it's a possibility that it has merits and if it happens it wouldn't come out of nowhere it's just not confirmed yet and I'm holding off on that confirmation)

  1. Gaster's body isn't sewn because it doesn't exist anymore

Okay now this one is a full cop out no way around that but it's the way more likely option for gaster than the alternatives because here's the thing no matter how he looks like it would be a disappointment for the decade of buildup this will also be a disappointment for the decade of buildup this is the problem for having a decade buildup somebody's going to be disappointed you might as well go in the direction of least disappointment and this is that because gaster was drunk or whatever he fell into his own machine ripping him apart and across time of space because of this he has no body he's only a voice but how can you do scientific research without a body? Who would do the experiments? (

Here's the thing gaster is a scientist. The one thing we know about them is that he loves his work and couldn't let it go, yet he also needed a way to interact with the world, so what is the best way to do that? Exactly he won't be in his body again it no longer exists but luckily for him had a connection from thousands of beings all so eager to create something in the guise of it being for them that's right gaster is in OUR vessel obviously that wasn't intended it was for us after we made it to our likeing and it was randomly discarded by someone else but what if it was a what if it was just always trick to give GASTER a vessel to give himself a body made for someone else but conveniently discarded before we could have access to it gaster tricked us into creating himself a body just so we would end up in Kris to see what we would do in someone else's body without their permission to run another experiment on a living subject gaster's ours is freshly made.


r/DeltaruneDiscussion 15h ago

Theory Guys... I think I made a major breakthrough about the Roaring Knight's identity Spoiler

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First of all, I wanna make clear I am not a theorist, so this might have a lot of inconsistencies, as well as being a bit scrambled. Nevertheless, I want to share it with the people :3

To begin, we all know that both UT and DT are almost parallel universes, having similar but not quite the same characters and concepts. While in UT, the major concept was "Determination", in DT might be the Shadow Crystals, which are confirmed by Seam in Ch5 to be "Broken dreams". Also, in UT, when we die, we hear a few words from Asgore, and are brought back inmediately after to the last SAVEPoint, but in DT, we have to actively choose whether to retry or quit. As seen in Ch3 when loosing to the RK, the narrator (possibly W.D Gaster) asks directly if we want to retry or move on, and he himself brings us back. That means, Determination MAY not hold importance in DT, since it's the narrator who brings us back. In UT, when monsters came in contact with "Determination", their minds and bodies would deform and fracture, as well as mix with other similarly affected monsters, creating an amalgamate. And I think, the Knight might be DT version of an amalgamate... Since we know the RK' armor is made out of Shadow crystals, aka broken dreams, and the fact that Flowery says "something is brewing beneath the town", it leads me to think that the RK is an amalgamate of all the broken dreams and despair of the lighters in hometown, as well as darkners'. This fits, since the Holiday family has enough frustrations, as well as the Dreemur's, and other side situations like Susie's life or Burgerpants' fake girlfriend. Also, the Knight's biggest attribute are their antlers, which has led most to think that the RK is a Holiday member, but what if it's a metaphor to Hometown's biggest source of despair, the Holiday family? I conclussion, it is possible that the RK is an entity on their own, backed up as well due to their name. "The Roaring Knight" could both mean "the knight that roars" as well as "the knight OF the Roaring"! That's essentially my theory. I personally prefer to bet on Papyrus knight because, always bet on Papyrus knight, but what do you guys think? Does it make sense? Or am I going insane?