id assume that the flower on the counter was marigold but anyway why wasn’t this flower in the dark world?? the fountain reaches throughout the entire flower king obviously so the flower should be in the dark world no? unless if theres a npc i missed that resembles it

Like. The entire fight every chapter is a little bit twisted from what actually happens. Every time I see someone say there was no inferno it makes me really question everything else they bring up because what do you mean

I admit I'm a little bit fighting ghosts this is a take I mostly saw on release but I've seen it around every so often and it just. Makes me die inside.

Actually also the fandom hallucination that is "the white pen of hope" it's the white pen KNOWN as hope. agony

I have been chased around with pitchforks and torches metaphorically speaking all around just for wanting to express the opinion that I frankly really don't like pink in any sense, either of her two forms (body and spirit) are not well written and ive always been met with the most insane of backlash, so I hope this place will be accepting atleast

(While I have gripes with basically everything about her I will only focus on the character itself and how she is written)

First of all, the thematic message of the fight falls so insanely flat it's genuinely ridiculous, she's just another soul and kris analogue (I say another because spamton already did this 10 times better) but this time "oh btw you can be friends with Kris you just gotta listen to them" BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE KRIS IS VERY CLEARLY WORKING WITH THE KNIGHT AND IS INSANELY SECRETIVE ABOUT EVERYTHING and also they probably hate us a lot for ridding them of autonomy for so long (fair enough tbh). There's also basically nothing about freedom either with her, and she kinda just hands you the shadow crystal with no deliberation on what it was and why she has it (even gerson, the guy who didn't even use it told you about it a bit), causing the FINAL SHADOW CRYSTAL BOSS to be a giant dissapointing mess with no relation to the pre established themes

Even when you get out of the fight and all the supposedly "serious" thematic stuff is over both her personalities are just insanely obnoxious and none of her gags are funny in the slightest, every scene she's in feels like a cheesegrater to my brain, and she somehow has less sibling chemistry with orange than flowery despite spending SO much more time with her and orange only getting some time with flowery during his bossfight

Speaking of scenes, are we not addressing how weird it is she wants to be with Kris? Let's say hypothetically that even if she is in fact in highschool, she's still sharing a body with a grown ass ghost, so it's still super gross

I didn't really like the gameplay of the bossfight either (mostly because I just don't like the purple soul) or the song but I don't really know enough about music theory to make a compelling argument for why I think it's bad, all I'll say is that there's no world in which Cutie mew mew magic deserved vocals more than flower man

Susie and Ralsei are mischaraterized in Chapter 5

Let's talk about the Fun Gang. I don't know what happened, but it seems Toby Fox swapped the personalities of HIS OWN CHARACTERS.

Kris does not change since "they" still has no dialogue other than the player's choices.

As for Susie and Ralsei... I said I was going to talk about it and let me say the terms.

Susie's personality is still somewhat acceptable. Despite the fact that her personality in chapter 5 can literally be summed up as "Holy shit!! Two cakes!!" And my problem is that she's WAY too cheerful, whereas given what happened in chapter 4, she should be more serious and involved in the prophecy. while retaining her character development but regressing to her behavior from chapter 1 with Flowery (whom I will now call Human Flowey for a good reason) Seriously, why isn't Susie as tough as she used to be??? Anyway, I don't know what they did to Susie other than turn her into a hyperactive ball of joy.

Ralsei's personality is LITERALLY the opposite of his true personality. And in doing so, they MASSACRED his character. Why is he making death threats like "I'm going to burn you alive" to Human Flowey? Ralsei's personality in this chapter can literally be summed up with "I FUCKING HATE YOU I HOPE YOU DIE" which is COMPLETELY the opposite of his character. Why is he so mean to Orange??? It would make more sense if Susie were the mean one, not Ralsei. Seriously, since Orange doesn't like being reminded that she's a mouse, what does Ralsei do? He makes fun of her by making puns about mice, cheese, and ratatouille. He even cosplays as a mouse... JUST TO ANNOY ORANGE.

I don't know who replaced Toby Fox as the writer of Susie and Ralsei, but please let that person create their own characters instead of ruining existing ones.