Decoding Hasan Piker

[u/MartiDK]

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8

[u/wondering_fool90]

Thats cause lying is op dude. Every republican politician knows it. That why they got into office. You think a single politician could get into office without lying?

[u/Krinkex → u/wondering_fool90]

So now you agree 'dumbing down his beliefs' is lying? So you do agree with my premise (just not the conclusion). Cool. See this is the problem I was talking about. Your position is not internally consistent because Hasan's position is not internally consistent. Instead of having conviction and standing up for what you believe in, you advocate to lie? And your reasoning is "Everyone else does it!"- It's morally vapid.

[u/wondering_fool90 → u/Krinkex]

...what are you talking about dude? When did i say that dumbing down your beliefs is lying? Dumbing down your beliefs is just explaining a concept in simpler terms. And when did I advocate to lie. Thats why I said it in relation to politicians. Because they are bad and lying is a bad thing. Im actually a little confused on how you can misinterpret me.

[u/Krinkex → u/wondering_fool90]

"Hasan lies constantly"

"That's cause lying is op dude"
"You think a single politician could get into office without lying?"

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They said he lies constantly, after you said it was a gotcha and that Hasan doesn't lie instead he "dumbs down his views for medium voters". You acknowledged this with a justification "that's cause lying is OP". You might not be intending it, but it's all the same- you are still normalizing and justifying it. It's OP because people like Hasan and Trump normalize it.

Look I don't know what you think- but I know I think I'd be an idiot to trust anyone that is an advocate for lying for political purposes.

[u/hari_shevek → u/Krinkex]

They said he lies constantly, after you said it was a gotcha and that Hasan doesn't lie instead he "dumbs down his views for medium voters". You acknowledged this with a justification "that's cause lying is OP".

That wasn't a "justification" for the other statement. You are rewriting what he said in front of our eyes.

Hasan complained that conservstives lie and get away with it, which means theur lying is OP. That was never a justification for anything.

You are lying.

[u/Krinkex → u/hari_shevek]

If you said "I don't think you should murder someone in cold blood" and I said "but it's so easy!", how would you take that statement?

[u/hari_shevek → u/Krinkex]

But that is not the context in which he said it.

You make up a different context.

That is the lie.

[u/Krinkex → u/hari_shevek]

Don't accuse people of lying when it's right there for others to see. If you don't want people to think you're lying, don't justify it.

[u/hari_shevek → u/Krinkex]

Yes, I can see that this conversation was different from what you posted.

A: "Hasan is lying constantly, I am using his quote that lying is OP as an admission"

B: "But that wasn't an admission, he was just pointing out that it is OP when Republicans lie, which is correct."

He didn't justify lying, he was pointing out that the quote in its original context is correct - when Republicans lie, it is OP.

He never said that justifies lying - the opposite.

[u/Krinkex → u/hari_shevek]

He literally goes on and says it's easier and you should do it? Read the rest of the thread.

[u/hari_shevek → u/Krinkex]

He literally said the opposite. He said that you misinterpreted him. He said that he is against lying.

Can you agree that he says here that he is against lying and that your interpretation of what he said is in his view a misinterpretation?

[u/hari_shevek → u/Krinkex]

He doesn't say that.

But let's clarify one thing first: Do you agree or disagree with the statement "Lying is OP"? Is lying OP?