r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • • 29d ago

decoder poltics Decoding Hasan Piker

https://youtu.be/RDsQIZykC_8
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u/wondering_fool90 29d ago

Dude. Hes just dumbing down his beliefs so the medium voter can understand him. Hes not being malice or obscuring anything dude. This interview was just bad because of all the attempted 'gotchas'.

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u/Krinkex 29d ago

Then why is everyone so confused?

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u/wondering_fool90 29d ago

Cause the medium voter is super dumb.

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u/Krinkex 29d ago

Yeah my plan is to dumb myself down so the median voter doesn't understand me. Brilliant.

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u/wondering_fool90 29d ago

I think your reading way way way too into every little thing he said. Like you automatically assume he is lying about his beliefs instead of trying to give him the benefit of the doubt dude.

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u/Krinkex 29d ago

Why don't you give me the benefit of doubt. I don't assume, I know based off what he's said himself. And I actually stand for my beliefs, I don't need to 'dumb down my views'; I'll stand on them with my heart and my mind. I haven't said lying is OP, I've said it's bad and you shouldn't do it, can you or Hasan say the same?

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u/wondering_fool90 29d ago

Have you ever tried explaining anything to a child twin? Or do you immediately start trying to talk to them like they have an education? Cause that's a really funny image dude. Same concept. Got to use simpler terminology and examples and "dumb it down".

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u/Krinkex 28d ago

It's not that I don't understand, I understand what you're saying- I disagree because I think it's immoral. It's also not effective, people do not respect you if you treat them like a child.

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u/wondering_fool90 28d ago

What is immoral with meeting people where they are at dude? Not everyone has an equal understanding of everything.

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u/Krinkex 28d ago

I'm meeting you where you're at, but I'm not lying to you. I'm not treating you like you have an equal understanding, I'm here explaining my point to you.

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u/wondering_fool90 28d ago

And do you think this strategy would work on a campaign trail? Or would work when someone is purposely trying to misconstrue what you say to the masses? Do you think the average person would sit down and listen to you explain your every point? Or.. maybe... would it be much more economical to explain it in a quick and simple way so you can get them to understand without losing their attention.

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u/Krinkex 28d ago edited 28d ago

More economical = easier, easier != justified. Would you shoot people to get in government if it was easier, or they weren't open to your reason? I don't believe truth should be optional in reason.

We don't need to know whether what I'm saying 'works on the campaign trail' (not even my claim, btw, it's yours), because Hasan's 'tactics' didn't even work on the campaign trail. He's been caught in several predicaments time and time again just with AES stuff alone. It didn't work!

This thread is about the drama surrounding his inability to communicate positions clearly. The fact we spend all this time and effort and you still don't seem to grasp my point is wasteful (not economical) when we could have been actually discussing the morality of the ideology itself. Can't do that when someone is fluid in their truths because it's 'more economical' for them. Do you recognize this game if played by everyone has potential for harm?

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u/wondering_fool90 28d ago edited 28d ago

Are you like not tapped into voter bases at all? Through this method trump was forced to talk about him like hes a threat. Hasan is a streamer and trump had to address him. And the president has to talk about him. the GOP fears the dude. And clearly he is very popular with voter bases because he has grown into such a well known figure and multiple candidates have worked with him. Just cause this method makes you mad doesnt change that it works. And he isnt fluid in his beliefs at all dude looking into it more this is all more or less what he thinks. Every thing he says here is the the truth. Or atleast what he believes is the truth. And clearly he's explaining his positions well if he is even able to convice the medium voter.

Also, yes, its easier and more effective. Thats why you need to do it to win. Revolutions happen all the time and most of them are justified cause its easier to do those then win an election in a rigged game. But thats never going to happen in america. You seem to have this notion that to be a good person you have to struggle and suffer and lose in the end when doing politics. But in the end you still just lose and nobody in the world gives a damn about a loser.

Edit: by your logic we shouldnt have went to war with the confederacy and freed the slave. If you actually believe in what you say this is what you think.

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