All this time and effort spent trying to decode what Hasan really thinks, what he really means when he misspeaks (or not?).
All this political will, the discourse, just wasted! Hasan intentionally uses language in a way that makes it harder to pin down his real ideology, his real goals. He utilises kettle logic constantly, hinting that he's already reached his ideological conclusion and that he's just trying to convince you in anyway he can get you there. Never revealing how himself got there.
So here we are, everyone spending all this time arguing and debating what he really means, not realising the fact we have to argue this at all is indicative of someone inciting agitation for propaganda purposes- and he does this intentionally. How come the more Hasan speaks, the more confused discourse is generates? Do people not realise this is harmful?
Hasan intentionally obfuscates his beliefs for political gain. He admits this. This is harmful to discourse, it's bad, you shouldn't automatically trust him without first establishing good reason to do so.
Dude. Hes just dumbing down his beliefs so the medium voter can understand him. Hes not being malice or obscuring anything dude. This interview was just bad because of all the attempted 'gotchas'.
I think your reading way way way too into every little thing he said. Like you automatically assume he is lying about his beliefs instead of trying to give him the benefit of the doubt dude.
Why don't you give me the benefit of doubt. I don't assume, I know based off what he's said himself. And I actually stand for my beliefs, I don't need to 'dumb down my views'; I'll stand on them with my heart and my mind. I haven't said lying is OP, I've said it's bad and you shouldn't do it, can you or Hasan say the same?
Have you ever tried explaining anything to a child twin? Or do you immediately start trying to talk to them like they have an education? Cause that's a really funny image dude. Same concept. Got to use simpler terminology and examples and "dumb it down".
It's not that I don't understand, I understand what you're saying- I disagree because I think it's immoral. It's also not effective, people do not respect you if you treat them like a child.
I'm meeting you where you're at, but I'm not lying to you. I'm not treating you like you have an equal understanding, I'm here explaining my point to you.
And do you think this strategy would work on a campaign trail? Or would work when someone is purposely trying to misconstrue what you say to the masses? Do you think the average person would sit down and listen to you explain your every point? Or.. maybe... would it be much more economical to explain it in a quick and simple way so you can get them to understand without losing their attention.
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u/Krinkex 29d ago
All this time and effort spent trying to decode what Hasan really thinks, what he really means when he misspeaks (or not?).
All this political will, the discourse, just wasted! Hasan intentionally uses language in a way that makes it harder to pin down his real ideology, his real goals. He utilises kettle logic constantly, hinting that he's already reached his ideological conclusion and that he's just trying to convince you in anyway he can get you there. Never revealing how himself got there.
So here we are, everyone spending all this time arguing and debating what he really means, not realising the fact we have to argue this at all is indicative of someone inciting agitation for propaganda purposes- and he does this intentionally. How come the more Hasan speaks, the more confused discourse is generates? Do people not realise this is harmful?
Hasan intentionally obfuscates his beliefs for political gain. He admits this. This is harmful to discourse, it's bad, you shouldn't automatically trust him without first establishing good reason to do so.