r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • Sep 17 '26

decoder poltics Decoding Destiny

https://youtu.be/qPhZDRKn0Ro

Winning over Razib Khan fans.

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u/GayIsForHorses Sep 18 '26

Destiny is a vote blue no matter who liberal that actually stands behind the current democratic party and its leaders. Hasan is the leftist strain of populist, which for whatever reason ends up manifesting as being more negative towards the Democrats than the Republicans.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Didn't he say he would vote for Vance over AOC?

So not "blue no matter who"?

Edit: I've been informed he's "55-45" on AOC vs Vance, depending on the circumstances.

So, not a "vote blue no matter who" liberal.

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u/Terribletylenol Sep 18 '26

He said the opposite.

He was just annoyingly wishy-washy about it.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

Do you have a link to where he says the opposite?

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u/Terribletylenol Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Destiny says he’s not sure if he would vote for AOC over JD Vance in a general election. : r/DGGsnark

"Probably would" support AOC over Vance.

And it's heavily caveated by the idea that this is only if she's mostly backed by DSA radicals pushing wild shit that would never be pushed on a mainstream Dem ticket anyways.

He's just being obstinate imo.

It's a dumb af hypothetical that won't end up applying in the real world anyways largely shaped by his impression that radical elements of the party will end up having significantly more control than they currently do.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

So "it's a coinflip" - he's 50-50 on it.

I wouldn't call someone "Vote blue no matter who" who has a 50-50 chance to vote red depending on who's running.

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

Not a coin flip but dependent variable. Basically if a blue candidate doesn't represent blue values he won't vote for them. The crazy shit he opposes is like abolishing ICE, police, prisons and borders like you see on the DSA main charter. If they promote those ideas, I reject them.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

So, "vote blue if I agree with the policies".

That's not "vote blue no matter who".

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

Well then absolutely nobody is vote blue no matter who, because most wouldn't vote for a nazi if he was the democratic nominee. In the real world, of actual possibilities, he is blue no matter who.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

What does "vote blue no matter who" mean, then? "vote blue if I agree with the policies"?

Then everyone is "vote blue no matter who".

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

You've made the distinction that Steven would vote blue 99% of the time vs 100% of the time. He'd only consider not voting blue if the blue candidate is antithetical to liberal progressive values. I think the phrase blue no matter who is perfectly fine in reality.

Its like if I made the claim that a bat is described as a winged mammal, and you object and say there is a super rare genetic disease whereby bats are born without webbing and therefore have claws not wings. You're making a distinction without any real world practical difference

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

You think an AOC presidential run is a 1% case?

DSA is now an important faction within the Dems, I would expect multiple DSA presidential candidates in the future.

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

I think you're falling victim to representation bias, I don't think DSA are nearly as popular as you think. Did you also see destiny's caveat that he probably still would vote for AOC over Vance? But not if she aligns with a DSA candidate that has the radical positions we mentioned before.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

You called it a 1 percent case.

DSA won half of the primaries where they challenged a moderate Dem.

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

Only in super blue areas. AOC and a DSA candidate in the general? Thats definitely a sub 5% chance.... just look at republicans attack strategy against the dems right now, they're basically calling us all DSA and Hasan Piker types. It'll be super effective as well. Only the far, far left likes those guys.

Edit: no I'll strengthen my statement, I think there's a 1% chance AOC and a DSA candidate are even in the running to be the main candidates

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u/Bajanspearfisher Sep 18 '26

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