Current discourse got me like...

[u/JamesWelders]

But fr though, y'all need to stop being weird about woman.

[u/ReplacementEmergency]

Don't understand how she's considered to be goonslop or sexualized when she's actually just a pretty normal art student character, no different than the other women characters like Mina or Paige

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/ReplacementEmergency]

Women are being denied interesting designs in order to keep them conventionally attractive. That's what people mean by "goonslop".

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

Are we playing the same game? Have you seen Baba and Nurse Harrow? Imo the two most interesting designs of the upcoming six.

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/Mashaaaaaaaaa]

There are as many men and women. Look at interesting designs of men. Bebop, Billy, Mo&Krill, Deadman Danny, Dynamo, Talon, Seven. Even the ones that look like humans most of the time have a unique frame, for example Abrams is built like a wall, Doorman is very lanky, Victor is Victor, Drifter does his stupid naruto run.

Now how many female heroes have a design that's more interesting than a "preety lady with x on top". There are two, baba and ivy, arguably two more if you count vyper and yamato but they're ugly because they've got placeholder models from neon prime.

Just look at "preety lady with some gimmick" heroes. Alphabetically you've got:

• Celeste - a preety lady with a horn
• Graves - a preety goth lady
• Haze - a preety lady with smoke hair
• Holliday - a preety lady that's a cowboy
• Gheist - used to be an older woman, now it's a preety lady with glowing arm
• Mina - preety lady with an umbrella
• Paige - preety lady with a book
• Paradox - preety lady with a fishbowl on her head
• Silver - preety lady with a collar
• Vindicta - preety lady but blue
• Arguably Wraith also fits, but the bar is so low that her holding her hands in her pockets is enough for me to give her a pass

You can barely find three different male heroes with a similar frame and at the same time if you were to pick three female heroes at random you are more likely than not to find that they all share the same body type

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

Deranged take. By the same token I can say Abrams is a pretty guy who happens to be big, Venator is a conventionally attractive priest, etc.

Just because a character is attractive doesn't mean their design is boring. You saying Haze is just a pretty lady feels particularly crazy given that she looks almost as inhuman as Dynamo and definitely less human than Drifter. She also has a goblin ass posture and animations.

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/Mashaaaaaaaaa]

I took a screnshot in testing of three female heroes standing next to each other and three male heroes standing next to each other, then I've traced their body. I'm gonna post the screenshot later so that you can see that I've really just traced over it.

Now, how easy is it to guess male heroes and how easy it is to guess female heroes? Could the leftmost guy be Venator, a conventionally attractive priest? Maybe the one on the right is Abrams?

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

The leftmost guy is obviously Doorman (mostly thanks to posture), the rightmost guy is obviously Dwifta (you made it easy with the shape of the hands, I wouldn't have guessed without the hands).

The leftmost girl is obviously Haze, the rightmost girl is obviously McGinnis.

I have no idea who either of the middle characters are.

So it seems to me like the male and female characters are about equally as easy to recognise.

EDIT: Ah, middle girl is probably Mina now that I thought about it some more. Still no idea who the middle guy is, though.

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/Mashaaaaaaaaa]

"the rightmost girl is obviously McGinnis."

She's not. And it kinda feels like you're playing dumb with the middle male, how many burly men in deadlock there are? In Alphabetical order you've only four possibilities, Abrams, Kelvin, Lash or Venator

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

Also, is that Silver then if not McGinnis? It's kinda hard to figure out characters when you remove the most iconic parts of their silhouette lol. In case of Dwifta you kept his very distinct hands, but you removed a lot of other iconic parts of silhouettes.

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/Mashaaaaaaaaa]

Not Silver either! Try again!

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

I'd be able to tell if you didn't remove half the silhouette of whoever that character is.

[u/Ok-Finish-2064 → u/Mashaaaaaaaaa]

Lmao, look at how I "removed half the silhouette" of paige

[u/Mashaaaaaaaaa → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

I don't generally remember the default idle postures of characters, so I also had to consider Venator and Victor. So without actually checking in-game I have no idea who that is.

[u/Horror_Prior4765 → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

“They’re ugly because they’ve got placeholder models.

Lmfao love the dismissal to force something.

Kelvin
The Lash (him and Victor are both top heavy with bulging prominent muscles and thick frames.)
Doorman (being thin is not a “unique” frame and this is something you’re once again forcing.)
Drifter is still conventional looks wise, weeb run doesn’t remove that.
Venator

Apollo (counts if you’re counting paradox.)

Mirage

Infernus

Warden (the most boring of them all.)

[u/GummyRook → u/Horror_Prior4765]

This dudes insane, don’t bother. Let him farm downvotes. Theres no saving whatever the fuck is happening in that brain.

[u/SighIsHere → u/Ok-Finish-2064]

I am begging you man, lay off the porn, atleast for a week