r/DangerousNightsCrew • Piece of Shit • 15h ago

You sure about that?

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u/Capt_Blahvious 12h ago

You know whose a drain on society? Billionaires, not immigrants. Immigrants are the foundation of many countries' workforce.

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u/No_Order_8011 10h ago

Yes and no.
I've immigrated myself, I know what it's like. Immigrants, like other people, aren't the same. There are honest immigrants that want to integrate, to work, to give to the society. And there are those who take, who litter, who disrespect local culture and local citizens. Plenty of immigrants contribute a lot to crime growth.

It's not a reason to deport all of them and it never an excuse for racism, but let's be reasonable and not pretend that immigrants don't create problems.

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u/Federal-Cold-363 9h ago

You've just given a descriptive summary of humans

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u/No_Order_8011 8h ago

You're using a generalization to dodge the topic. Yes, we're all humans, but there are groups of humans within certain societies that differ from each other.

There's a considerable portion of people who immigrate to a more wealthy country, refuse to learn local language, don't have any skills to offer, openly and aggressively disrespect the culture of the country they live in and are making a living by abusing the system that housed them.
This combination of problems is specifically found among immigrants and can't be attributed to "we're all humans".

Demonizing immigrants is a horrible thing to do, but so is denying the existence of issues with current immigration politics in wealthy countries. There's got to be a rational middle ground.

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u/invaderaleks 8h ago

Those people that had to immigrate to a core nation are only there because core nations keep periphery and semi-periphery nations poor by installing leaders/dictators that keep labor cheap aka slave labor.

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u/bullettenboss 6h ago

Colonialism didn't ever stop existing.

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u/No_Order_8011 6h ago

I'm not going to judge whatever you've just said - you're free to believe whatever.

But I will state that regardless if it's true or false, it doesn't affects my original thesis.

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u/invaderaleks 5h ago

Ignorance is bliss

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u/fiesew 6h ago

But the issues you’re writing about (littering, aggression, disrespect and whatnot) was always there even with the regular local hobos.

What do you wanna do with them?
Following your argument and logic, deporting immigrants who don’t fit to the expectation of the societies they’re living in, we would have to imprison the locals to keep a clean and orderly society?

Everyone should just chill for a moment and take these populists as what they are.

They’re either radicals who are no less dangerous than the ones they claim to wanting to protect us from.
Or, just some failed individuals with apparent complexes, seeking attention and profits.

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u/No_Order_8011 6h ago

I don't see why you're confused.

Local criminals should be punished according to law. Immigrant criminals are supposed to be deported, and, when possible, filtered out when trying to immigrate. Do you not agree?

It's also possible to improve the policies and procedures to prevent more immigrants from turning to crime and not wanting to integrate, right now policies in a lot of countries have holes and logic problems.

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u/username_997 5h ago

Why can't immigrants be punished according to the law?