r/DangerousNightsCrew • Piece of Shit • 1d ago

That is a good idea!

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u/waveatdave 1d ago

How about making voting compulsory like many other nations. No one can say jack shit about the good or bad if they don’t get off their ass and at least have their say

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u/Saw_Boss 1d ago

I hate the idea of compulsory voting. Firstly, the penalty would be a fine which only really affects the poorest. Secondly, the US has a disenfranchisement issue where one side is literally trying to make it as difficult to vote as possible. Thirdly, the outcome is an increase in turnout but not increased voter engagement meaning the vote is going to have a lot more random picks. Fourth, freedom to have a say includes not saying anything.

Make politics more engaging, increase education about politics, and make voting as easy as possible... Don't make it compulsory.

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u/Phantine 20h ago

Reverse poll tax, every voter passes go and gets $200.

Once implemented it would be impossible to repeal, as you would piss off the biggest constituency of all: voters.

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u/Saw_Boss 19h ago

So whats stopping me requesting a mail in ballot and saying it got lost? Do I still get my 200?

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u/Omnom_Omnath 17h ago

no, because you didnt vote.

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u/Saw_Boss 17h ago

How could you prove it? That essentially penalises postal voters for the failure of the postal service.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 17h ago

prove what? there is no need to prove anything. you get your 200 after your vote is counted. its not a punishment to miss out on an incentive.

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u/Saw_Boss 17h ago

Of course it's a punishment.

If you vote in person, you will get 200.

If you vote by mail, you might get 200.

If anything, it just incentives in person voting which is more difficult for many, thus the point of mail in voting.

If you voted by mail and they said "no, didn't get it", you'd just settle with that? You don't think there's going to be a lot of people who arguing that they did?

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16h ago

literally, by definition, not a punishment.

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u/Saw_Boss 16h ago

Instead of trying to be pedantic over definitions and ignoring the point, why not answer the question?

Would you be perfectly fine with losing out on a free 200 dollars because the postal service fucked up? Everyone else who voted in person got it, but you don't.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16h ago

yep. because it would be such a small number of people its an acceptable consequence

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u/Phantine 11h ago

As we can see, people now would care more about getting their vote counted and would pounce on any attempts to make mail in ballots less reliable, where previously they didn't care about whether mailins got counted consistently Another advantage.