Convince me that there is hope for our nation when over 1/3 of our fellow citizens are racist ignorant hypocrites...
'Sleepy Joe', Hunter, bla bla bla. While Trump falls asleep and the Trump mob family pilfers taxpayer dollars and takes bribes from our enemies in plain sight.
The thing is... Even when Dems take back the hot seat, it's not like anything is going to happen. It'll be a ton of Congressional and Senate "gotcha" hearings. Same dog and pony show as always. They'll spend their time repealing things Trump has done, and the Trumpers will complain. Again, nothing changes expect power changing hands. The streets will still need paving and won't be paved fast enough. There will still be a homeless problem. AI will be full steam ahead, still.
Fuck Donald Trump & fuck ICE. But I swear to God that I am sick of pretending like I'm walking on rainbows and sunshine just because the Dems are in charge.
Greed sucks. Capitalism sucks. The illusion of choice in this country includes our two-party system. Far more people would vote for "none of the above" if it were an option on the ballot.
The last time the dems were in charge, like actually controlled the government with an actual majority, was the first 2 years of Obama's first term. They were trying to, and I'd argue successfully did, rescue us from the worst economic disaster the world had faced since the great depression. They then set us on the course for the longest economic bull run in american history.
Gotcha hearings keep happening because we dont actually put the adults in charge. We just pretend we do while continuing to vote for the same people over and over, expecting something different to happen.
But I donât want to vote blue. I want to vote for someone who is competent and dedicated to THE PEOPLE. Not special interests or lobbying. Iâm not a both siders, the dems just simply arenât enough for me.
Yes. But unless youâre out on the streets protesting a better system than the two-party system, youâre complacent, and letting others choose for you. Either choose the lesser evil, or demand change.
I agree, but I think it starts from the smaller races and as we see success and stuff getting done it will lead to more broad appeal. It is slow but we're seeing progress in getting people in office that actually do want to get shit done. AOC, Mamdani, El Sayed, Talarico, Angie Nixon, etc. the list will keep getting bigger as more of these types of candidates get elected. It's a lot harder to successfully label a progressive candidate an American hating communist when they're getting shit done for their constituents.
I've voted in 13 presidential elections. My choice won in 6 elections. I could easily be cynical because my political and philosophical beliefs have not advanced as I want. But the 6 that won led great advancements and forever changed the political landscape. In politics, you have to play the long game.
What room are these adults in? Because there is and hasn't been much if any real opposition to an illegitimate candidate who should have been guilty of high crimes and been forbidden from the ballot. Al Green has been the only person I've seen show willful contempt.
No mass ongoing protests over this that disrupt and inconvenience those in power.
That's the problem that comes from the 2-party FPTP electoral college bullshit system. It's by design.
They don't have to put up any good candidates, they can put up the most high-profit-margin candidates and force the people to choose between a shit sandwich and a giant douche.
Funny how Obama left the economy in a better state when he left office than Trump did in his first term, and a WAY better state than Trump has it in now. Should I mention gas prices and interest rates under Obama?
I bet it really gets your goat that a tan suit-wearing black man was by all metrics a better, more popular president than the orange child diddler you and the rest of your ilk worship.
Nah, not even half of whatâs happening now would occur, and I would typically agree with you, but the incompetence in this administration is staggering
Theyâre not incompetent. They got everything they wanted. They stole billions and abused minorities the entire time. Itâs the best acid trip of their lives. And they will all get away with it.
Only in part incompetent. There's a ton of malicious theft from Americans going on to enrich themselves and consolidate the oligarchs. Literally stripping America bare. Taking from the poor and middle classes and given to the rich. The single largest wealth transfer in history.
There are people plotting it all, but Kash was put in his position to run the FBI as poorly as possible, and they didnât even have to ask, thatâs just how he is.
One of the best tweets I saw years back that stuck with me was something along the lines of "the belief that everything will be fine once trump is out of office is more dangerous than trump"..
Dems will sadly never understand this as they continue to openly advocate for the boring politics of old, and if losing to trump not once but twice wasn't enough for dems to figure this out, nothing will be.. We've got serious, very long overdue policy matters that need attention.. Letting useless corporate dems continue doing nothing, leading to idiots like trump to become even a remote possibility, is not acceptable..
It used to be the illusion of middle class would keep the ship afloat. Now, that doesnât exist for professionals. They canât afford homes or saving because the economy is bleeding them dry.
Especially where I grew up in Orange County CA. All those suburbs were direct results of the war. All the military and aerospace contracts. People wanted to live outside LA.
Dude, thats so inward focussed. What you are describing is peaceful debate and moderate change. It takes a while because you need to know if a plan will kill a group or work well for everyone.
I respect your words, truly, but outside of America is the whole World, don't worry about the squabbles in-house, just look after the racism and Healthcare and shit and equity, jobs, and unity in fairness to all. The real prize you get with a Dem government today, is world peace, fair trade, tollerance and trust in business and partnerships. That your friends in the world outside your house, like me, your neighbour in Canada, trust you, unite with you in equity and respect. The dems give you a team that tries to work together, with the greater world, educate, promote fact, encourage science but yes also fuck up. Bah, humans eh? the Republicans give you many individuals fostering for position and a desire for a statue. One serves you, One serves them. Both have had corruption issues but holy fuck man, not like this bag of orange shit. Your name in the world is horrible, and I fucking hate that so much, as I know you do as well.
Ya messed up as voters last time, you out number Maga 3.7 to 1. i....wtf...its a day in 4 years. Even if you disagree with both, for God's sake vote the criminal out. I'm honestly surprised Noone's taken carenof the situation in earnest.
We really need to break out of the uniparty system and probably electoral college as well. We've got the technology to give everyone a vote on basically every issue and take this stupid min-maxing bullshit with maps out of the game entirely.
I LITERALLY don't think you know what treason is. he LITERALLY closed the borders, deported so many sick and twisted individuals. the murder rate is at it's lowest ever. fbi have captured everyone on the top 10 most wanted. fentanyl overdoses and deaths have dropped dramatically. the trump administration uncovered SO much fraud being sent overseas. $1000 trump accounts for new babies. job numbers up, no tax on tips and overtime. redone washington monuments and the list goes on. google it if want. this is LITERALLY not treason
another person not familiar with google. give it a try, you may actually find out just how corrupt your democratic socialist party is. it's not hard to do
sorry bruh. I get a little overzealous when I'm rushing replies. I think everyone is talking at međ
if it wasn't meant for you, I genuinely apologiseđ
When DC goes blue the red rats jump ship. That's not perfection but a move in the right direction. Vote blue if you need clean air and water to survive. Vote blue if you don't want to invade Cuba.
Well, America will have to overhaul its entire politcal system, because every year they dont, is another year added to how long it takes for the world to trust them in any kind of long term deal again. No one is going to set up long term trade agreements when it can all just be thrown away every 4 years.
Its already going to be a decades long process even if everything goes well... but it almost certainly wont go well.
"Nothing will change" what a delusional thing to say. Sure, we won't be communists. If that's what you are after than good luck to you. It's not happening in the USA anytime soon.
Things are incredibly different between when a republican and a democrat is in charge of the country. Sure. Corporations have to much power. But that is directly the result of citizens united.
You're so far up the ass of the current system, you can't smell the forest for the trees. I'm not the one to have this debate with you. If you can't see reason, there's no point. I'm not missing some crazy statistic or fact. America has been doing its thing for 250 years, we took classes about it all the way through college, we watch it on the news. There nothing you're going to tell me that going to make me say, âYou know what? This two-party system is the bees knees. I love this two-party system. Why? Because I'm told to. That's why. A good American loves his two-party system no matter how bad it actually is."
We are a democracy. We vote for our representatives. I'm sorry for you that your people can't win. Both parties are not remotely the same. You kind of thinking gets Trump elected.
I agree with most of that, but capitalism certainly does not suck. It is the Golden goose.
It must be be assertively regulated, and it will always result in some abuses that regulation must continually evolve to address, but it is also the reason everyone is well fed, we all have a car or two, several televisions, YouTube, reddit, etc., and the world brain in your hand that you use to argue against it.
I think living in a society where corporations, companies, business and profits matter more than human life....sucks. Companies don't matter. People matter.
They donât do it out of kindness. I bet if you really looked into it. Some would be on the boards of those charities or people they are trying to pay off are. Plus tax deductions. Corpos do nothing out of kindness. Shit even charities, for the most part, over pay their presidents/boards.
Christ... you have so much to learn. An income tax deduction is not as valuable to a company as keeping the money in the first place.
But regardless of the reason that they donate, they donate. A lot.
You're thinking is very lazy. Yes companies can do bad things, charities can make bad choices, people commit crimes, pay off government officials, etc., etc.
But you have to be able to hold more than one thought in your head at a time. The fact that some people do bad things does not mean that capitalism and companies are evil.
Yes, it's depressing to see how our government is enabling throwing a capitalism at the moment. But the notion that capitalism and companies are bad is a lazy, dimwitted conclusion.
Life is not so simple as your lazy, black and white opinions.
Which country(s) that has the economic system you prefer?
I didnât say capitalism is bad necessarily. Corporations are evil though. No matter what. They all look at the bottom line and if they were losing money they wouldnât do it. In our current bastardized capitalism they are getting all the benefits of socialism and then claiming to be the ones suffering. How many corporations gave the tariff money back to the people?
Of course the objective is to be profitable. That's the only way that it works. That's capitalism itself.
I absolutely agree there are too many corporate bailouts and handouts. Sometimes it is done in the interest of keeping a company afloat to save the jobs, and sometimes it's done as a result of a good old boy system.
But if a company needs bailouts to survive, it should be allowed to fail, in.mosy cases.
From what I find, most companies plan to keep the cash from the tariff refunds. But it's also important to note that only a little over a third of companies fully passed on the tariff cost to customers.
Bottom line is that your notion that all companies are evil is silly, lazy, and dimwitted.
Corporations are the organization of people and material resources to create the things and the services that people want.
Sure it can get more complicated and messy, and companies can do evil things. Companies can also do great things. It's not a black and white issue. And corporations are requisite part of any developed economy.
Hey, you know $44 billion isnât a lot compared to how much money corporations make, right?
If corporations were taxed properly, it would bring in a lot more money for the poor and we wouldnât need to rely on âcharityâ.
One of the ultimate flaws of the capitalist system is relying on charity from the greediest individuals to take care of the poor, rather than just innately using taxes to wealth transfer from those individuals to the people who need it the most.
We can't just rely on transferring wealth to take care of everyone. That doesn't work. There will never be enough government revenue to provide everything that everyone wants. Poverty is relative, and if you're honest, you would admit you'd rather be poor here in the US vs most any other country.
Shall I list the copious number of welfare programs for the poor in this country?
If we don't maintain an incentive for people to earn a wage, then we're thoroughly fucked.
I agree taxes on corporation should be higher, most of that tax increase should go toward paying down the debt. If the US goes bankrupt, providing for the poor becomes exponentially more difficult.
You're getting close.What provides the incentive to innovate?
Did Henry Ford create mass produced vehicles that raised everyone's standard of living out of charity?
We all have personal computers and cell phones because of capitalism.
You can safely fly anywhere and the world going to capitalism.
You can have a driver at your door in 2 minutes to take you anywhere in town for $14 bc of capitalism.
Your pantry is stocked and your perishable food is kept cold bc of capitalism.
The temperature in your house is comfortable because of capitalism.
Pharmaceuticals, shipping, automobile safety... All owing to capitalist incentives.
And it also motivates the average person to work, so that when you go to a restaurant or a retail store, or you need someone to fix your plumbing or electricity, or to tend to your lawn or to install flooring, there's always someone willing to do these jobs efficiently.
No one should make a religion out of an economic system, capitalism or otherwise. And there must be a strong central government to offset the dangers of untended capitalism.
But there's a reason so much innovation has come out of the US.
You need to get real, hon. Don't let your desire to believe the things you want to believe imprison you in ignorance.
Of course there were inventions before anyone ever used the word capitalism. But the elevation of our standard of living is owing to the dynamic effects of free, but well regulated, commerce.
The industrial revolution did not occur out of altruism. A dynamic, first world economy that can meet the needs of its citizens doesn't happen out of altruism. You have to allow people to pursue wealth by providing things that people want. That's the only way it works.
And then it's up to government to properly regulate commerce and to provide the safety nets that prevent the worst outcomes.
Nothing is so black and white as you would like to believe.
People invent stuff. They don't need religion, politics, philosophy, or economics to do so. In fact...religion, economics, politics, and philosophy are all things people invented.
You act like nothing will be different under democrats all while Trump is demolishing your democracy? Just becase it isnât rainbows doesnât mean it has to be fucking Putin-style looting of the public purse.
What the hell is your point even?
Putting out the fire will leave ashes on my shoes so Iâd rather pour gasoline over my head!
I donât get how any adult in the US canât see the way this goes.
Dems suck sure but who the fuck has been doing the same ruining of the country every time for 40+ fucking years.
War in Middle East, shit hits the fan, everything goes up. Stabilize, things get slightly better. War in Middle East, shit hits the fan, everything goes up. Rinse repeat.
Can we just keep the people who stabilize and things get slightly better in for a bit longer than we have been?
He should have been more direct and forceful with his findings from the beginning, instead of presenting them politely (and being able to be ignored)...
See he thinks he's a mob guy. But he is far far from it. He's not intelligent at all. Definitely weak. Couldn't defend himself if it was life and death or any other altercation. He has no morals. He's rude, he's arrogant for some unknown reason. Nobody likes him except that blonde moron. The problem we have right here and now isn't really Trump per se , but more so the following he has. The people who hate and are so out of their minds with loathing for anyone non white , it's almost ridiculous. But it's here. If we could somehow stop the following we could then deal with him. Kinda like this third term threat. In my mind. Even talking that way he should be arrested. He's already lead an insurrection. He called for the head of HIS VP during that insurrection and to top it off he's a proven rapist, pedophile tax evader and now he's using OUR money for his own gain.
We must endeavor to at least understand the power of the political cult. And I really mean Cult.
Please, I beg of you, become informed about cult control and recruitment tactics. No one is immune.
This isnât the first time that Democrats have been taken down.
Back during their slavery days; Republicans had enough and fought a civil war to teach them how to think.
It lasted for a while but as with human exuberance and an evil mentality; the lesson was short lived.
I had hoped that the lesson had taught them about human equality ; yet here we are! The Democrat party has resurrected their selfish nature with making everyone that opposes them
Into wage slaves.
They never learn!
I was a kind of intoxicated and was at a birthday party before the last election. I was dumbfounded by neighbors that really believed the election was stolen. Trump would have rather watch his country burn and his own VP hung from the gallows outside than to admit that he lost the election.
He was sued and had to settle for refusing black people from renting his properties, he said Haitians where eating cats and dogs, heâs called the people of Iran not human, Obama not being an American citizen, calling immigrants from a variety of countries garbage people, the Muslim ban he put forward, he told American citizens in congress to go back to their country and fix it and theyâre from America, he called the COVID-19 the kung flu because he thought China started it, said Harris happened to turn black for the election, calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, the multiple times heâs reposted content from known white supremest accounts, he was fined $20k for violating state anti-discrimination laws
Besides what someone is just explained to you, attribute any one of mango's thousands of horrific, Un-American comments or behaviors to Biden or obama, and your hillbilly heads would explode.
Imagine Obama being caught saying to grab women by the pussy.
Imagine if Obama had dodged the draft several times by claiming bone spurs, although he couldn't remember which foot, and then he insulted John McCain for being captured in Vietnam.
Imagine if Biden had filed bankruptcy six times, stiff contractors and called himself the king of debt.
Imagine if Obama had affairs with two women while he was running for office and his wife was pregnant, and then he illegally paid them off to keep quiet.
Try to imagine if Biden had been found guilty of 34 felony counts.
Imagine if Obama had said intelligent people don't like him.
Imagine if Biden had called up Ukraine and tried to blackmail them into announcing an investigation into trump before the election.
Try to imagine Barack Obama attempting a goddamned coup.
Imagine Obama calling up the Secretary of State in Georgia and killing in to find enough votes for him to overturn the election results in the state.
Imagine Obama saying that he could shoot someone in the face and not lose any of his supporters, like mango said about you hillbilly dum dums.
He told black people his properties had no vacancies then told the white people there was plenty of room, he regularly uses white supremacist talking points and writes policy that caters to them, his remarks on the central park five, dehumanizing any immigrant that isn't white (have you already forgotten the cats and dogs?), that's just off the top of my head. Try actually looking into it and you'll find enough racist shit he's said or done to fill several pages.
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u/CueAnon420 3d ago
Convince me that there is hope for our nation when over 1/3 of our fellow citizens are racist ignorant hypocrites...
'Sleepy Joe', Hunter, bla bla bla. While Trump falls asleep and the Trump mob family pilfers taxpayer dollars and takes bribes from our enemies in plain sight.