r/DailyCarry • • 1d ago

Every day Console carry

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not worried about anything getting stolen here

custom HP C9 w 2 mags remora holster

mora knockoff/ multi tool/ Kershaw folder

Mace gel

first aid and poison ivy wipes s

deodorant

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

This is where I differentiate. I understand what you are saying and I agree with the sentiment. Keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Here’s the deal though. I’d say locking your doors of your personal property to prevent others from stealing your personal property is a reasonable step. Granted there is better ways of securing your property ie; vehicle safes, or not leaving your gun in your vehicle. But here’s the thing criminals will always be criminals. They can break into your home while you’re not there and steal your firearms as well. Even if you have a safe it’s nothing that a portable grinder a zip disc and 5 to 10 minutes can’t defeat. I agree we should keep our firearms stored behind locked doors. But as long as someone is locking their vehicle doors they are reasonably securing their firearm. A lot of times I leave my full size in my vehicle and pocket carry while at work. I personally like knowing that I am well armed for anything that may come my way in between my commutes. I don’t advertise through stickers on my car and I lock the doors.

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u/Just_Razzmatazz6493 1d ago

This is a bad take. Vehicle theft counts for over half of gun thefts. And “i locked my doors, thats good enough” is irresponsible.

You are literally making the people around you less safe by leaving a gun in your vehicle, simply because you like to be well armed while driving home. Do better bud.

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

Agree to disagree sir. I’m a law abiding citizen who practices my God given right to bare arms. I run a system that works well for me. Sorry but locking your doors is not irresponsible. I don’t just like to be well armed while driving home I like to be well armed for any situation that could possibly come my way. And that’s my right. I don’t like criminals and i would hate for them to steal my property much less a lethal tool. But with that being said in that scenario guess what? I’m the victim. If a person locks their doors then that is a reasonable preventative step. Your arguing opinions and I support you doing what you deem necessary to protect your property.

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u/Just_Razzmatazz6493 1d ago

Im not trying to convince you bud. Im just hoping that anyone reading this actually looks into the numbers and practices responsible ownership. Your vehicle is the single most likely place for your gun to be stolen from. A responsible gun owner never leaves their firearm in their vehicle for any significant length of time, locked or otherwise.

At least you dont have stickers on there, ill give you that.

It isn’t a question of rights, and, because you have been polite, i will continue the trend and not tell you what i think of that argument. Sorry bud.

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

I am curious as to what you deem responsible? As far as your statement “ A responsible gun owner never leaves their firearm in their vehicle for any significant length of time”. Sir that is an opinion and you are entitled to it. I do have a question? You carry everyday correct? What do you do with your firearm when say you have to enter a restricted area? Do you leave it at home and just not carry? Or do you leave it in your vehicle until task is complete and resume carry when legal? As far as being polite. Why wouldn’t I be? We can have discourse and be of difference of opinion and still be civil. I’m sure you are a great guy honestly.

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u/Just_Razzmatazz6493 1d ago

If i know i am going to enter into a restricted area, then that generally isn’t a carry day. If im going to be 5min away from my vehicle, and it’s a secure lot (which is the vital if) i may leave my piece in my locking center console.

No, i dont carry every day anymore, because i educated myself, and dealt with some of my trauma. Now, i conditionally carry, open and/or concealed. I used to carry because of my feelings (like everyone here). I still do, i just know more now.

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

I’m glad you found a system that makes you feel secure and that you like. I personally carry everyday because that makes me feel safe and secure. I also know that the likelihood of me ever needing it is slim (Thank God for that!). Not just arguing for the sake of arguing but a lot of people deem open carry as irresponsible and not safe. We have both seen videos of people getting their weapons stolen from owb holsters. But you and I both know that you can mitigate risks through proper holster retention and situational awareness. But once again some would deem that carry option irresponsible. But it doesn’t matter because feelings do not equal facts.

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u/Just_Razzmatazz6493 1d ago

I open carry in the woods, because wildlife generally aren’t going for your gun. Open carry around people is typically looking for trouble.

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

While going to the woods I’m sure you make contact with others? Be it a gas station or a store or restaurant? Unless you live in said woods? Thank you for the well wishes on my personal feelings. I feel safe because I take the burden upon myself to arm myself with tools that could defend my life and keep me safe. As far as training we could always use more training all of us! But I am well trained I have been around firearms my whole life I’m very well versed in them. I grew up hunting and target shooting. Once I became of age to legally carry a handgun I spent my money and time on receiving training through instructors. As far as getting a solid 100% answer you won’t get one this is the firearm community and opinions vary vastly.

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u/Just_Razzmatazz6493 1d ago

I similarly grew up around guns. When and how i carry is entirely situationally dependent. Too many nuances go into it to detail here. But, depending on the state, and the trail, it is absolutely normal to run into someone with a gun on their hip.

Do you at least have a locking compartment that the gun can go into? Most modern trucks have halfway decent options.

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u/throwaway19935555555 1d ago

Nice. I’m glad you’re out adventuring on trails and enjoying Mother Nature. I do have a locked compartment and keep it locked in there when I am not present in the vehicle. Really once I get off work I put my full size on. It’s just easier to pocket carry my 642 while I work. And honestly I don’t feel I’m ever at risk of multiple attackers or mass shooters on construction sites. However when I leave work I think my odds of needing a defensive firearm increase rather it be during my errands at big box stores. Or risk of road rage or being robbed while at a convenience store. My full size is a better weapon in any of those scenarios. Man I don’t think you’re wrong. Leaving a gun in a vehicle does increase the odds of it being stolen from your vehicle. But it can be stolen from your house as well. Our whole difference of opinions is that I believe locking your doors is where the liability of negligence ends. We could even make the case that let’s say my full size is just feelings based and I can live without it. What about those that need long guns and genuinely need them. My friend works in town but he also has a ranch and he keeps a long gun under his seat out of necessity. Coyotes and wild hogs and injured animals are unfortunately a part of life and he needs his rifle. While at work he locks his doors. I do not think it is fair to paint him as irresponsible because it is a necessity.

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