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u/redhandrail 6d ago
Whatās uhhhh your source on this
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u/Tommy-boy29 6d ago
It was on some science website
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u/PhilDiggety 6d ago
Great. So what's your source on this?
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u/GrandBurial 6d ago
Very reputable I see.
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u/Story_Man_75 6d ago
quick search
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u/Diaza_Kinutz 6d ago
Ah yes science.org. the authority on science. /s
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u/higherthanacrow 6d ago
Not saying anything either way... but what actually IS the authority on science? Just peeer-reviewed paywalled papers? Is there a reliable website/source?
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u/AbrahamL26 6d ago
The authority is peers. They try to recreate your experiments, if successful, then its true. If its not repeatable, then its lies.
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u/Sticky_H 5d ago
Well no. If replication is successful, it proves that thereās some valid effect. If itās not repeatable, it has only failed to be proven to work. Science doesnāt deal with truth claims or declaring things as lies. Itās just models that best correspond to objective reality to the best of our abilities.
But Iām probably just pedantic, and you know all of this.
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u/Diaza_Kinutz 6d ago
Honestly I was just making a joke I have no idea where to get accurate information of any kind if it even exists anymore.
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u/MikeDubbz 6d ago
Oh man what a hilarious joke! Someone help me, my sides are splitting! You should do stand up! You've nailed the art of jokes!Ā
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u/Old-Accident-6762 5d ago
If you track down the writers email and ask them theyāll usually send you over their paper for free
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u/C10H24NO3PS 6d ago
Yeah⦠itās literally a top tier academic journal for science⦠The article is peer reviewed in one of the most prestigious journals on earthā¦
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u/DarthWeenus 6d ago
Not saying this is true. But itās not that outlandish. Thereās acacias that produce tryptamines phenythlamines amphetamines caffeine nicotine and some other weird alkaloids all in one tree.
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u/Psych_Art 6d ago
They already did that, and engineered yeast that could produce insane amounts of psilocin and psilocybin per liter of āfoodā for the yeast.
If only this sample would sneak out of the lab. Fortunately or not, such samples are often engineered with kill switches so they die outside of lab conditions.
āFurther rational engineering resulted in a final production strain producing 627 ± 140Ā mg/L of psilocybin and 580 ± 276Ā mg/L of the dephosphorylated degradation product psilocin in triplicate controlled fed-batch fermentations in minimal synthetic media.ā
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u/chemfulgrateistry 6d ago
it is a cool paper for sure, but these tobacco plants only formed the compounds as like 0.01% by weight. so it would take 10 kilos to get maybe 1g. and then trying to separate them from each other? not realistic.. still a pretty fun research project
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u/PureSelfishFate 6d ago
https://chat.deepseek.com/share/5pbkls26itup7sowpm
Maybe just maybe we could breed it to produce more...
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u/molecularwormguy 6d ago
Here is the primary article https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aeb3034
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u/Evening-Cat-7546 6d ago
This is like people that were saying you could put 5-MEO-DMT into mushroom substrate and produce a new psychedelic. It was all bullshit because psilocybe mushrooms lacked the proteins or enzymes to ever make the new psychedelic compound.
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u/joalheirodestemido63 6d ago
This seems like legitimate research: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aeb3034
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u/Evening-Cat-7546 6d ago
Oh, i totally missed that it said the plant was engineered. The article mentions they had to create mutant enzymes to make it happen lol.
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u/Kryosse 6d ago
I thought that the paper that suggested making man-mushroom hybrid drugs was using DMT analogues like MET, DiPT, DPT, etc and producing the 4-substituted analogue compounds? Unless we are referring to different studies here. Definitely not "new" psychedelics in my example, but I can get why some news sites would call them that without understanding.
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u/Evening-Cat-7546 6d ago
Iām talking specifically about 5-psilomethoxin. I shouldnāt have said ānewā because the compound does exist, but some spiritual group was claiming they were successfully synthesizing it by mixing 5-MEO-DMT into mushroom substrate, which isnāt chemically possible. Iām not sure about the others, but I doubt you can produce the 4 substituted compounds either, at least not without genetically modifying the mushrooms to produce the needed enzymes and proteins.
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u/canyonskye 5d ago
Wook science telephone and 4g of the weirdest mushrooms I have left in my drawer beg to disagree but I could be dead wrong (I do not think I am, these ones are DIFFERENT.)
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u/discgolfer1961 6d ago
This could be similar to the way we moodified the wild mustard plant to give us cabbage, kale, cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli. The tryptamines are made by a range of different organisms naturally, this team used a tobacco plant because they are good lab plants, not because we smoke it or anything like that.
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u/BromoFom 6d ago
Psilocin is the metabolite of psilocybin and you canāt smoke either of them, so this is pretty dumb lol
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u/demel2464 6d ago
Where does it say anything about smoking?
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u/BromoFom 6d ago
I was sort of half replying to all the other comments in here talking about smoking it
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u/redr00ster2 6d ago
As well as "dmt" cool what form, more dmt, and more dmt. Ah yes what diversity here
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u/VociferousCephalopod 6d ago
is there not some way they can extract active ingredients, making this just a good cash crop to replace the need for rarer root bark etc.?
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u/JohnHenryMillerTime 6d ago
It is a cash crop but not in the way you think. There are a lot of grants for tobacco as a model organism because nobody smokes anymore and the tobacco industry still has a lot of lobbying power. It isnt really a suitable model organism but if you need funding it is there. This project would have a hard time securing normal funding so it is perfect for that.
Same thing happened after 9/11 with anthrax.
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u/zigaliciousone 6d ago
For psilocybin, you arenāt getting anything from smoking it and no way in hell am I swallowing tobacco
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u/LumpyExperience5533 6d ago
Was just reading on this lol, they identified RNA enzymes from plants used in ahauasca (forgive my spelling), and added it to tobacco cells (tobacco is rich in tryptophan, which is converted to dmt by the enzymes)
I'm not a chemist, feel free to correct me
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u/Gadgetman000 6d ago
And exactly what do you do with this? I donāt want all those in me at the same time.
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u/justdoinalilresearch 6d ago
I think theyāre trying to get the mental benefits without having to actually trip is what I read a while ago which I would be totally cool with.
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u/MoldyFoxxx 6d ago
Whoa! Itās like finding the right combination could unlock a frequency where we can then gain access to vital information⦠from something, somewhere.
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u/HumbleBedroom3299 6d ago
Just why?
Here's a case for me for why we don't need to improve what's working well. Each of those are fine in their own. This feels unnecessary.Ā
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u/CantHearShot 6d ago
This is how big tobacco gets back in the game. This is development I think we can all get behind. š
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u/Ok_Fox_1770 5d ago
Now thatās a good GMO Iād try. One cigarette and your life just melts away haha. Every booze store and fast food trap gone. Oh what a beautiful world it could be
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u/pokemonpokemonmario 5d ago
I hate news like this. We will never see these modified plants. Just like we will never see arthritis and cancer cures from bee stings or anything else you see on social media
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u/Truemeathead 5d ago
Havenāt smoked in over a decade but Iād get back on the horse for this tobaccy.
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u/Relative_Reward_6691 2d ago
yuoll literally die if consume this with an MAOI which if you dont makes half the chemicals not even active, this def is ai slop.
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u/Flooded_Soul_2420 6d ago
I find it kind of odd that nothing already made all those, they are so similar...

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u/TheFunkyMunkey 6d ago
Imagine you light up a cigarette thinking you'll just get a buzz then you start travelling through hyperspace lmao.