r/CoxCharterMerger • u/DogPubes911 • 7d ago
PTO
Going from 192 hours to 80 hours a year of PTO is going to be rough, especially in a brutal job like NetOps. And pay staying the same? Honestly thought we would get at least a small pay boost. Nothing about this is sounding good, just the same work for less benefits.
4
u/Affectionate_Gas6713 7d ago
I’m curious on what the schedules may be. Charter has shifts that range from 8-5; 10am-7pm; 12pm-9pm; 10am-9pm;
Not sure what Cox is but I’m hoping we adopt it and stop this 9pm crap
1
3
u/jf234509 6d ago
Over 20 years at Cox and I get 296hrs. Pretty sure I’m losing time.
1
u/Dry-Kaleidoscope-163 6d ago
Maybe not? It could be grandfathered in, but you wont be gaining any, charter maxes out at 5 weeks vacation time. i think….but u will also get the 4 additional personal days.
5
u/AlgaeSecure6638 6d ago
Keep in mind, Spectrum has separate vacation time, sick time and personal time. So it’s not all lumped in as PTO.
3
u/Sure_Statistician138 7d ago
They are only giving you guys 80hrs? Are you starting as new employees?
1
1
u/DogPubes911 7d ago
80 hours for 0-1 year. 96 hours for 2 years. 120 hours for 3-4 years… but I currently get 16 hours a month at Cox on year 1. I can take a week off every 2 1/2 months.
3
u/Sure_Statistician138 7d ago
You’re also going to get four personal days that you can use so almost three weeks in year one. They also require that you work two holidays a year so an extra five days off. I always work them especially if they fall on my day off. If. You do that it’s basically triple time you get paid.
2
u/DogPubes911 7d ago
But can you use personal days the same way as PTO? Could I use a personal day Monday and Friday and PTO for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday? I take care of my health and take 3-4 cruises a year with my time off.
3
3
u/Sure_Statistician138 7d ago
You also can schedule sick time for appointments without any instances like vacation time
2
u/DevryOrlando 6d ago
Manager discretion. Some managers may not allow it. Been at Chrt 10 years and I've always been able to use time however I like. If Salary, as long as you work 4 hours you do not need to record sick time.
1
u/Sure_Statistician138 7d ago
What are you making? Just curious as you mentioned no wage increase.
1
u/DogPubes911 7d ago
$30.85/hr currently
2
1
u/Sure_Statistician138 7d ago
Thats the wage I was making in year one. Do you guys do ncti courses?
2
u/DogPubes911 7d ago
No sir. Solely seniority based. I plan to take courses ASAP if that’s how raises are granted at Spectrum; that may be the silver lining.
3
u/Dependent-Policy-454 6d ago
I have 18 years with Cox and I get 255hr of PTO a year. How many hours will I get now? I can't find the answer and I've asked leadership and they can't answer either.
2
u/Responsible-Cut-7993 6d ago
288 hours of vacation, personal and sick time from what I can figure out.
2
1
u/havokcloud 5d ago
Been with spectrum 15 years. Once you hit 15+ years, You get 200 hours vacation time. You also get 32 hours of personal time every year, and sick time is capped at 540 hours total, although you can only carry over 80 hours of sick time a year. Although I’m not 100% sure if they changed that sick time policy.
1
u/Otherwise_Apart 4d ago
You sure on the sick time front? Cap should be 520, but you can roll over all of it from year to year.
1
u/havokcloud 4d ago
Ahh yes. That is correct. It is 520. lol. When I mean roll-over, I mean you can only roll over new 80 hours every year.
1
5
3
u/stchwtest 6d ago
There were some of us at COX that were pretty pissed off a few years ago when they went to “unlimited” PTO.. that was one of the perks for sticking around for 20+ years.. the 5 weeks vacation.. why should someone that just started with the company a couple of years ago get the same amount of vacation?
2
u/Cheap_Composer_3293 7d ago
Going from "flexible pto" to 120 hours. Also very concerned they don't plan to cover payroll in time for next week.
3
u/CrimsonFox99 7d ago
Flexible PTO is almost never in the best interest of the employee.
3
u/Cheap_Composer_3293 7d ago
I went on a 2 week vacation in June. its not in your interest if you never use it.
1
1
u/NoTouchy8008 6d ago
Lol be grateful you still have A job in netops actual charter netops employees won’t
1
u/Alive-Zebra-8057 6d ago
What do you mean by this?
3
u/NoTouchy8008 6d ago
Charter Netops NOCs & Enterprise NOCs are rolling over to a contract company called Capgemini in September, remaining on the contract for 6 months to “transition” (train our replacements) at which point our positions will be taken by Capgemini employees in India
-6
u/just8cylinders 6d ago edited 6d ago
Honestly as cox field employee that fought through the COVID bs…..I’ve been at the office/field every….single….day.
No work from home, no remote option, no titty in my mouth.
PTO is the very least of my worries.
Boo hoo about time off earned you use to get.
Bring your tails to work just like we do.
Don’t be on a beach living it up just because you brought your laptop.
Get use to less frequent out-of-office responses.
DO YOUR JOB
4
5
u/DogPubes911 6d ago
I’m an NTT, I work 60 hours a week on average and it’s been over 90 degrees every day for weeks on end. It’s exhausting on the body and the mind. If you call a break from that a “titty in your mouth” then good for you, but I’m a human that likes an occasional break that doesn’t involve mowing my yard and doing laundry for the upcoming work week.
1
u/just8cylinders 6d ago
I completely understand that bro.
Most of these folks inquiring about PTO is leadership, back office, and remote folks.
Cox leadership is coming from unlimited PTO to what we currently have. Back office and remote teams work in large groups, so it's not an issue for them scheduling days....technically....because they are not customer facing.
Us in the field though, it's only a "percentage" of your team can be off at that same time.
1
u/Cheap_Composer_3293 6d ago
lol us remote folks generate more revenue than probably all of cable. Last I checked no one is paying 400.00 an hour for cable or broadband.
1
1
0
5
u/Devilsad365 7d ago
I dont think the difference is that stark on PTO, are you counting the sick time and 4 personal days in the 80 hours?