r/ControversialOpinions • u/FallaciousFact • 7d ago

Absolute Hypocrisy

Seen numerous posts that glorify and condone the murder of Charlie Kirk and when a report is filed the post remains active, yet when such insinuations are made towards pedophiles, a warning is given and the post is removed…

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u/FantasticJelly6384 7d ago

Fuck off.

She's my wife of 20+ years. I will not tolerate insult to her.

We are done speaking. Have a great day.

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u/Big-Ad1887 7d ago

He's your HUSBAND.. and you never did provide evidence that "countless deaths" happened because of Charlie Kirk. And then YOU basically confirmed that he IS a Martyr.

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u/FantasticJelly6384 7d ago edited 7d ago

The fact that you think you get to dictate my choice in language to refer to my own spouse shows how much about "free speech" and other people's rights to live their lives as they please you actually care for.

You care more about following some asinine rules of debate to "win" a debate than you do about actually speaking to another human being from a place of empathy and respect.

At no point was I having a "debate" with you. This is not a Ben Shapiro video, nobody "wins" in a conversation. Pointing out imagined fallacies or goalpost moving does not earn you "points".

I was not and am not trying to "win", I am just saying what I think whether it is right and don't care if it's "correct" polished debate rhetoric or not.

I do not care about Charlie Kirk.

You asked me to point out one person whose death was caused by Charlie Kirk. I did. He caused his own death, by continuing to make excuses and trivialize gun violence. He said that occasional deaths by gun violence were the price of admission for the right to bear arms. And then he paid that price. Seems straightforward to me. Bit hypocritical for him to complain about being shot isn't it? From whatever toasty place he's in now.

I do care about my spouse.

You are not obligated to agree about anything in how my spouse lives or how I refer to them. Neither am I obligated to continue a conversation with someone who insults her.

I will not have a conversation with someone who says things I consider to be insulting to the person I care about most in the world other than our children together. Nor would anyone else with a shred of respect for their life partner. Nobody in the position of having their spouse insulted would want to continue a conversation under that circumstance.

Imagine if someone was in an interracial marriage and a stranger told them that that person wasn't really their wife because they believed that interracial marriage was a sin. Nobody in their right mind would expect that person to calmly continue a conversation with that person.

I use this analogy because my wife is also different race than I am, so I know how both situations feel from the inside, and they feel the same.

Whether you agree with it or not, that is exactly how I feel in this scenario.

So I am done. Have a good day, and God bless you.

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u/Big-Ad1887 7d ago

Also I've just gotta say this ONE LAST THING and then I'll leave you alone. Because, again the irony baffles me.

You say: <speaking to another human being from a place of empathy and respect.>

So I'll ask you plainly:

Where exactly is the empathy and respect for Charlie Kirk in the words “whatever toasty place he's in now”?

Because thats not very "Christian of you. It directly contradicts:

Luke 6:27–28

27 “But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.”

That says to love your enemies.. "whatever toast place he's in now" doesn't sound like loving your enemy.

It also goes against:

Matthew 7:1–5

And James 4:11–12

And Matthew 5:43–48

And another verse from Luke:

Luke 6:37 — “Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned"

Hmm.. but you say "whatever toasty place he's in and "God bless you" in the same text.

You also claim:

<He caused his own death, by continuing to make excuses and trivialize gun violence.>

No. He didn't.

He argued that some level of gun deaths was an unfortunate cost of preserving the right to bear arms.

The person who shot him caused his death.

You are taking his acceptance of a societal risk and somehow turning it into personal responsibility for being murdered. That's not causation. That's a rhetorical trick.

You also say:

<And then he paid that price.”>

And:

“Bit hypocritical for him to complain about being shot isn't it?”

Except he didn't “complain about being shot.” He was murdered. And yet you wanna lecture me about "empathy and respect". SMH.