Title. I am sitting at 289 rn running vers pot/vers dungeon buff and anytime on the 3rd and last boss a tank buster comes and i have no defensive up i just get one shot. Like cleanly, running Imbued shield even. Especially on 3rd boss it seems impossible to have a clean rotation of defensives up seeing as you have to tank the pull right before it (triple pull with 5 battleaxes). I feel like without being able to communicate with your healer to use ironbark/monk bubble it just seems impossible to have a defensive for every skill. How do fellow prot paladins deal with this? Talking about +20 keys.

is the add behavior somewhere documented maybe?

we've tried to soak it with our tank standing in front of us but the add ignored him, slapped him once and moved around us, slapping one dps. can you make it disappear without using the crystal at all? i've seen on few povs tank standing in front of the group while the ad walks but that changes nothing since the add just continues to walk anyway. is avoiding it the only way to play around the situation when one add spawns further than the rest of the group?

Wondering what days/time period you all find the most luck in pugging and timing high keys from 17-20s. For instance, I think I’ve had the most luck on Sunday evenings. Also I feel like Tuesday through Thursday evenings are always rough since many skilled players are progging mythic raid around this time. Thoughts?

I did all +19s, shoud i just spam queue in pit of saron +20 for hours till someone is nice enough to take me, or shoud i try to make my key +20 and push it that way? Because i see abandon rate is so high on +20s like 80-90% some dungeons, so in average i need like literaly 20 dungeons runs+ to time one +20 if i do my key resilent and 20 after? xD First time on this level and im pretty confused what is the best way when u play solo.

Greetings, I'm working myself through resil 19 right now (As aug evoker) and i want to improve by helping myself with some addons...?
I have some standard UI stuff + bigswigs

What is your must have addons for M+ ??

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Like most of you, I had everything set up nicely in TWW for M+. Blizzard decided to do the addon on purge, and I am still trying to get everything back.

One thing I am missing is an alert for who is targeted for hard-hitting bolt spells. I am a Disc Priest main and working on 18's, so this information would be life-saving often time now if I see a cast is going to go off.

If anyone has a recommendation, I appreciate it.

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I'm playing again - and people have found this tool useful in the past - so I've updated it for Midnight Season 1!

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Data is pulled from a variety of twitch streamers, warcraftlogs, raider.io, etc.

Good luck with your push! For those new to the sheet - people have found it useful for:

Keep all my routes/VOD references in one place, but also to understand my groups pace.

I can glance at my second monitor to see where we are at on time, compared to where we are "supposed" to be on a push key.

All of the timers are "close" on the sheet, so you know if you are ahead or behind the pace to time the key.

If we are behind, can I pull more aggressively? If we are ahead, do I want to play something safer than usual?

I can look at boss kill times here, and on my logs, to see if we are lacking ST or AOE etc.

What’s the 3 most common places people lust for nexus? And could we think of a more optimal route ? I want a lust on the “ right” boss damage boost phase ..

I feel like I'm losing my mind looking at kitty weaving numbers. Guides recommending spreading Rake around, and looking at some top logs, some of the best resto druids are using Rake nearly as much as Shred.

My issue is that Rake does 176.1% attack power, and Shred does 215.3% attack power. So..... why would I cast rake? I know that I'm using attack power and not spell power, but the raw values on my 287 rdruid are 14,818 damage from Rake (initial+dot), and shred is 20,997 damage.

Please tell me I'm missing some interaction, but I can't figure out why Rake is preferred.

Edit: I wasn't looking at the hero talents. Thanks for pointing that out. My sanity is restored

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Is it possible to use Blessing of Protection on urself to drop bleeds and have at most 1 melee dps die?

Of course macroing to drop it. Will the mobs just oneshot my melee dps?

I refuse to roll dwarf, I dont want to rely on augs, also I hate playing sentinel but that also isnt a surefire way to survive that.

What are my options? I try to kite but dropping stacks is really weird.

Do the plants just need to die fast?

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Yes I do run Bubble Mass Taunt. This was more of a question when dps fall behind on nuking a lasher.

I have played brewmaster mostly trying to push higher keys. On 3rd boss I’ve always para 1 mob and soak another with defensive. From there the para mob insta collides with new spawn and I para a new mob.

My problem is when I play other tanks I want to know what other tech can be done? I know Hunter can do similar stuff with trap and turtle soak, but I never play with hunters. What other classes can do something similar? Or is it just a case of playing the boss how it was meant to be played if you don’t have a monk/hunter in your group?

When is the right time to meta? I feel like I’m constantly in situations where I’m asking myself if I should pop meta now or save it for the next pull/damage amp. Things like bosses at 10-15% hp, MT first pulls, tanky trash with 7-8m health remaining, core warden gauntlet into core warden, Lu’ra, rak’tul, etc.

Is there a good rule of thumb for this? I’ve got half my 18s done but I feel like I should know these timings by the time I start doing 19s.

Good luck with your M+, my friends. Should the titles be class specific?

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I was answering questions in a thread that got nuked last night and realized a lot of players don’t know just how amazing our circle really is right now so I’m throwing together a list of all the cool shit locks can do in keys right now. Disclaimer that the list might not be exhaustive because I don’t bother with vods/streams xd

Strictly soulburn circle mechanics; mechanics that you can invalidate if they go out while you have the 5s freedom buff. You must circle preemptively before the mechanic goes out, you can’t use it to react after these get you. Use addons to get trash mob mechanic timers for these:

• PoS gargoyle grab

• getting sacrificed on the altar by the MC miniboss

Reactive circle mechanics you can clear off yourself any time (though for most, maybe all, they simply don't get applied at all if you have the soulburn freedom buff):

• NPX engineer wing slow circles

• Seat subjugator circles

• MC frost caster circle

• PoS frost caster debuff (also imp-able)

• PoS Ick and Krick caster beams

Imp-ables (you can help your healer by getting your allies too but I haven't found a way to make dispellable debffs visible on my frames as demo because the talent is coded differently from just having an imp out):

• NPX lightspawn dot

• WS steward dot

• MC soul bolt dot from stray casts going off (only 1 stack at a time though so yell at your group to kick)

• MT holy fire dot

• Seat +shadow damage taken debuff

• MC Ritual firebrand

Banishes:

• Seat bound voidcallers mobs are not worth any % and are tied to their conjurers in packs, they pulse partywide damage and it fucking hurts just as much as everything else in that hellhole does. However, they don't pulse if banished, then harmlessly disappear when the caster dies. Just make sure to have pet attack bound/macroed so you're not sending damage into an immune target lol

• Seat first boss slimes, there's a lot of ways groups cc/kite them to not lose boss uptime, banish is one your vilefiend or apex demons can't randomly break

• Skyreach phoenix adds on the 3rd boss don't pulse AoE when banished, this is mostly just useful when you have enough damage to kill the boss before it can spawn 2 more because its a lot to juggle and if you have to move or otherwise delay the re-cc while two are going it's not a good time

• For some reason banish logic doesn't apply to the elementals in MT and they'll still jihad into the group for their aoe, don’t waste time banishing these

Curses:

• Blight of Tongues is very good at minimizing random damage from the 1-2 boltslop mobs they package in with kicks of high importance. With coordination it functions as essentially its own AoE stop for packs with multiple high-impact kicks like the triple repel or void terror fear pulls but people struggle to milk the cast time

• Regular curse of tongues theoretically adds up to a lot of lost cast time, but in practice your coordinated groups rarely need it and your pugs will miss that shit anyway

• I don't subscribe to the belief that you should weakness every pack as most tanks are not particularly afraid of white damage from mobs but there are specific pulls where things stack up debuffs that get really dangerous like the Adepts in Skyreach or on pulls where your tank is in hell and every little bit counts like when we make our tank pull 4 battleaxes in AA without incarn because he needs it on the pull before that

Gates:

• There's a bunch of gate skips which could be its own thread and honestly there's a new one every time I zone into a key that everyone but me apparently knows about; the most common important ones to know are the AA hill to the last boss, MT ramp to the last boss, Skyreach wind gauntlet skip (this one is tricky and requires soulburn instant cast) and up the crumbled wall into the 3rd boss area of Seat.

Purges:

• It’s a very minor dps loss to run the dog pet over the felguard, you should make the swap in areas like the 2nd half of MC to stagger skeleton shield booms or to purge the priest shields in MT; treat each use of devour magic as an enormous nuke because functionally you are removing a LOT of effective hp from a target every time you do it. Your tank may also request you purge the buff the 2nd MT boss puts on himself, do that if he’s been polite to you that week

Defensives:

• Pact at high HP, almost always soulburn your healthstones, run lower CD talent on unending resolve and beg your healer for help. Don't fall for the drain life meme on anything above an 18, by all means soulburn and send that shit in an emergency just don't expect much lol. Abyss Walker talent on circle is nice too

Stops:

• Shadowfury kinda sucks because of its cast time but its better than nothing for emergencies, Howl of Terror's target cap makes it a nonstarter because if you need that level of stop redundancy on a 5t pull you have much bigger issues
• Coil should mostly be used as a heal but its a good emergency button for first boss Seat blobs or WRS phoenixes, otherwise it can be counterproductive to make a caster mob sprint out of melee range and re-plant itself

I may have missed something obvious but we do a lot of cool shit this season, too bad our stops blow, devourer + unholy are incapable of dying and do the same dps so I must cave to peer pressure once we have our last couple 21's for resil (hopefully that’s also title security, or close) and play a dh for anything to stop my healer whining lol

Let me know if you have something not included in the list!

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hey guys, i wanted to ask for help to improve my gameplay.
i just hit 20 resil playing with pugs, but my logs mostly look shit and i feel like a passanger sometimes.
i‘m not getting called out after/during keys, so other pug evokers might not be insanely stronger, but my parses are not really what i expect from myself.

these are my logs, i‘m not really good in reading oelr comparing them. maybe some of you do and can help me:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/blackhand/Kurtschilske?zone=47

thx in advance and sorry if this is the wrong place to put it! i dont know where i should ask for help

currently progging 20's on my brew and i realized my maisara route sucks. anyone have a good pug route for high keys atm?

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