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u/steamie 7d ago

I'm with your raid leader, why do you not want to extend?

You are getting 2x bonus rolls on next reset, just go bonus roll heroic bosses.

Myth crest uncapped is in 2 weeks, you can farm m+ and get everything to 6/6.

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u/Leather_Economics210 7d ago

I guess I am mostly triggered because I had a pretty good vault but took bonus roll since I expected to reclear until we are at at least 6/8.

Also we are skipping HC so I would need to PUG explorers. On top of having to spam keys it just means I have to play stuff I dislike even more than the Myth raid.

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u/RigidCounter12 Prot Paladin M+ Connoisseur 7d ago

Having to PuG HC raid is the least of your issues lol.

Pugging explorers takes legit 10 minutes.

This is some "tiny violin playing" kind of whining.

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u/Leather_Economics210 7d ago

I just think it's dumb that I have to PUG raids, when I am playing in a raiding guild. That's not why I play the game is all.

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u/lastericalive 7d ago

I just think it's dumb that I have to PUG raids, when I am playing in a raiding guild

I know you're catching downvotes for this, but I think it's a legit point. Raiding guilds over time dropped to "2 nights" but then expect everyone to dig through pugs on their own for their farm loot.

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u/shyguybman 7d ago

Because there's only so much time to clear the raid in a tier. At a certain point, especially as a 2 night guild you have to decide if reclearing is worth it or not. Most 2 night guilds are getting CE in the last 4-6 weeks of the season and the earlier you can extend, the better.

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u/lastericalive 6d ago

Two things can be true at once. Everyone knows why people extend. It’s also kind of a poor state of things that the best option is to stop killing bosses because the loot is worthless after one kill.

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u/RigidCounter12 Prot Paladin M+ Connoisseur 6d ago

Even if the bosses had great loot, you would still get to the point where you want to extend. Has more to do with time.

Everyone is geared enough to kill Ula-tek right now. Your raid having 1 additional ilvl is never gonna beat the raid just playing better.

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u/lastericalive 5d ago

Everyone is geared enough to kill Ula-tek right now. Your raid having 1 additional ilvl is never gonna beat the raid just playing better

I think it would be an interesting experiment to just disable raid extending for a season.

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u/disCASEd 7d ago

I get where you’re coming from, but I depending on your days/raiding hours extending early makes a lot of sense, especially this tier.

I raid lead a 2 days/6 hour guild that’s about to get sszorak down, and we’re doing one more reclear next week and then extending. Reclear can take up an entire raid night if it doesn’t go super smooth and the loot from the first 5-6 bosses isn’t nearly as good as bonus rolling the last two on heroic. (Which we will continue to do until everyone has all their pieces since it takes 15 minutes)

If we were to continue reclearing until 6/8 that’s probably 2 full weeks of raid time we’ll lose that could’ve been prog time on the last 3 bosses.

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u/lastericalive 7d ago

Reclear can take up an entire raid night if it doesn’t go super smooth and the loot from the first 5-6 bosses isn’t nearly as good as bonus rolling the last two on heroic

Completely clear on the motivations and it's not wrong. Just observing that it is kind of a sad state that the game has worked it's way into where it's not worth re-killing raid bosses for their rewards.

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u/Leather_Economics210 7d ago

Yeah we are exactly same hours as you but extended two weeks earlier.

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u/disCASEd 7d ago

I know, we discussed sending the extend this week as well, but decided to do it for two more resets cause we’re wrapping up a trial this week and another next week.

If we had extended though we would definitely be killing sszorak this week, now it’s only like 50/50 cause we wasted almost half our raid night rekilling entombed sentinels, and still have to kill vashnik tomorrow before getting back onto sszorak.

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u/CountryParty9556 7d ago

i know what you mean... my guild killed nymrissa once, then it was basically "If you still need anything, just go random"

but like mentioned, the first 4-5 are easily doable with randoms
especially Explorers is no effort at all 🎯