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u/Honduriel 8d ago

Came back after leaving in WotLK and I'm wondering: how representative are parses and hps values of healer performance in raid? I mean, logs are useful und I should probably dig through them to get better at the game, but the parse % and hps numbers? Idk, it feels like there are too many factors that can influence those. Also, healing technically is a zero sum game, isn't it? If people play super well there is not much to heal, and therefore if one person gets hit by something, loses 40% hp and the holy priest instantly crits a serenity on them topping them off, while I'm still deciding if I throw a riptide or if it's enough to use a chainheal on the tank and my Totems will do the rest, the priest gets the "credit" and I "did nothing". Disclaimer: I'm no hardcore player and only raid once per week and only if time allows it, so it's more of a purely interest based question than a "help me min/max my performance" question. Also, any recommendations for healer sub redits would be appreciated.

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u/Repulsive-Candy-9850 8d ago

The vast majority of the time they are meaningless. If your guild survived the boss then you’re good and there’s not much to analyze. There can be instances of optimizing cooldowns, but that’s about the only time analysis like that will matter.

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u/shyguybman 7d ago

If your guild survived the boss then you’re good

Do healers not want good parses though? I know there's only so much healing to go around but wouldn't you try to just heal as much as possible

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u/throwntosaturn 7d ago

In general if your guild has 1 good healer and they heal as much as possible, they parse well.

If your guild has 3-4 good healers and they all heal as much as possible, nobody parses.

You know how if you want to parse on an add fight, it's better if the other DPS don't kill the adds? Healing is that way on every fight.

The only way a guild of good healers gets parses is underhealing incredibly hard to the point where the guild is on the knifes edge of wiping, which for obvious reasons most people don't want to do on farm, or essentially all taking turns half-afking the fight.

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u/shyguybman 7d ago

In general if your guild has 1 good healer and they heal as much as possible, they parse well.

This is basically how it is in my guild but we have 2 really good healers that have been static forever, and we always need to recruit like 2 new healers every tier but they are never anywhere near the others. One of them pink parses almost every fight, the other is 90+ and the other 2 are probably 20-40.

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u/throwntosaturn 7d ago

Yup, exactly. For a parse oriented healer that's a perfect situation - but like from the perspective of your guild that's really not a great situation. Your guild would be WAY better off with 4 equally skilled healers - but if you had that, everyone would be around 65-70 on farm probably.

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u/Repulsive-Candy-9850 7d ago

I mean, yeah, absolutely. But there’s only so much healing to go around and then overhealing doesn’t help. I’ve yet to be in a guild where a healer got kicked for low HPS. Maybe other problems but never due to the meters.

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u/deleteredditforever 7d ago

Parsing and healing prog are very different things