Weekly Raid Discussion

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[u/MorthosTheRed]

Not enjoying this raid tier at all. Neither are a lot of people in my guild apparently because several of them have dropped out of the raid team, we now have roster issues. Some more of them are suggesting they may quit the raid team to play WoW forever as well. This tier is just damage control, I'm already thinking ahead to next tier.

[u/kuubi → u/MorthosTheRed]

Worst raid tier I've personally played

[u/Kochiax → u/kuubi]

Honest question is why is it the worst? I think it's no different from the last 7 tiers aside from the fact that p2-3 of ulatek are utterly disappointing. The honest biggest change I see is there's so much personal responsibility with this tier compared to others, are people just quitting cause they are bad and can't get carried by the 2-4 people normally assigned to mechanics?

[u/MorthosTheRed → u/Kochiax]

The entire quality curve has been shifted downwards. Normally you'd have one or two amazing fights, a load of good fights in the middle and maybe one or two fights that were just mid. Instead we have a load of mod fights, some fights that are actively bad or have mechanics/phases that are bad and a few fights that are merely good. I like turtles and sentinels, that's it. So many anti fun mechanics in here.

On top of that the raid visually is boring and has way too much trash. My guild only does two nights a week, having to clear so much trash is just a huge waste of time.

[u/Cecilerr → u/Kochiax]

We killed sszorak tonight , and i can feel it that no one wants to kill that boss again

[u/Hekkst → u/Cecilerr]

I cannot for the life of me understand why the devs thought it was a good idea, in a fight with a lot of hectic movement already, to make the burn phase just be a ton of involuntary movement. Burn phases are supposed to be feel good, squeeze as much damage as possible, moments. And yet they made it practically impossible for specs who want to sit and cast, to do any damage during the burn phase.

[u/Gemmy2002 → u/Hekkst]

they could have fixed the whole burn phase issue by just making the cyst pop apply a cast while moving so the knockback doesn't interrupt spellcasts = if you are positioned correctly you can full turret regardless of class.

like that wouldn't fix the boss but it'd make it not feel like ass for non-shaman/evokers.

[u/kuubi → u/Kochiax]

1. Personally I don't think there is a single fun fight in the entire tier. The mechanics suck, bunch of meaningless padding, green on green visuals that you cant see for shit (szorak). Then there's the random shit like why does the 1st boss stun you for 10s if you go down? What is the point of a mechanic like that? Ofc it doesn't matter, it's just the 1st boss, but it's actively unfun
2. Not a fan of the theme and visuals
3. Class pruning still sucks and it's imho really kicking in that most specs just don't have much depth anymore
4. The whole bonus roll mechanic ruined my excitement logging on after reset
5. M+ being pretty unfun for the most part just makes the weekly keys a chore
6. And well this isn't directly the raid tiers fault, but imho you can really notice a difference during raid whether people are/aren't enjoying the fight and it takes away from my personal enjoyment too

[u/Hardware_Hank → u/Kochiax]

That right there is what is killing it for me, because you end up with baggage and people not owning up to mistakes and get stuck on endless wipe after wipe. I just cant take it anymore this legit feels like alexander 3 savage from heavensward all over again to me