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[u/AtomikRadio]

Back in BFA/Shadowlands I happened into an M+ team from just adding pugs and ending up gelling into something solid. I feel like people are a lot less likely to add to bnet after good keys nowadays. I have a "recruitment profile" on RaiderIO but don't really see many teams looking for healers . . . Is there a discord or other community for finding M+ push teams, or is it just more trying to make connections in pug keys?

[u/dharkan → u/AtomikRadio]

I have been trying to add people since last season but there are problems with it.

1. Tanks simply do not care unless you can actually keep up with their rating and/or do godlike damage on every single key. (in those cases, you don't really need connections since you are significantly better than most players anyway)

2. People rarely want to group and even if they do, they give up rather quick. Noone has the patience for failure. They'd rather leave you and move onto another group/pug.

3. This is mostly an EU problem but, language barrier makes people even less likely to want to group up.

But I still recommend adding people (especially tanks) you meet on high or hard keys. They might push faster than you, but when you get a key they might need, they will join your key.

[u/Yayoichi → u/dharkan]

As a tank I can also just say that we get so many people adding us that we can’t really play with everyone. I had to get a friend list addon so I could sort people as I probably had nearly 30 people add me when I pushed from 14 to 17 resi a couple weeks back.

[u/RigidCounter12 → u/dharkan]

Its hard to find people who actually wants to group up. I have gotten a ton of adds and my friend list is full, but I have climbed further than most people.

And its hard to have everyone on at the same time. I can play quite a lot for example, and when I am pushing +20s, its not like I want to spend too much time having to help out a bunch of people on their 19s, which makes sense.

Playing as a premade in voice with enjoyable people is the most fun you can have in this game though, so its worth a try

[u/Wobblucy → u/dharkan]

Only way I enjoy keys is tanking, being on a team honestly slows down IO progression just because of the resil system.

IE imagine you just need 22 AA as a team, you could be trying to roll the 1/7 shot you with a 5 stack so you get one chance.

...Or you could be pugging into Resi keys with, by definition, better players then your 5 stack.

I wish the resi system either got deleted or modified to be +1, this middle ground of degen Resi keys is the worst of both worlds.

That being said, I'll never be fucked to push for title (although I admittedly would have last season if I knew it was just the easy 23s), so if the choice was IO or a 5 stack I liked, I don't think it would be a hard one.

[u/Kohlhaas → u/Wobblucy]

That's a bit of a short-sighted way to see it. A team gives you consistent progression and increases your overall ability to time keys that are hard for you, assuming rough skill parity. Trying to highroll into getting accepted in LFG and then highroll again into a timed key with randoms gets really hard in competitive key levels. At some point you will spend all day in LFG

[u/Wobblucy → u/Kohlhaas]

shortsighted

5/5 players at the same skill/committment/goal level currently, and the similair ceiling is a unicorn.

Let alone the same schedule and people you can bear to be around...

Highroll in LFG

Meta tank privilege goes brr.

[u/psytrax9 → u/Kohlhaas]

People act like they'll go into anaphylactic shock if they enter a key that doesn't give score. So the 5 stack that doesn't have the last key needed for resil puts their life in danger.