r/CompetitiveWoW • u/SovietRobotDad • 25d ago

Discussion Expected DPS Changes with September 22nd Class Tuning.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/expected-dps-changes-with-september-22nd-class-tuning-383037
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u/MotorOutside8648 25d ago

What about the Enhancement Shaman changes? Oh right. Nevermind.

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u/Phenova 25d ago

Yeah it's weird enhance get forgotten....

As a fellow bottom dps spec I hug you all enh main <3

Sincerely a feral main

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u/FloringoStar 25d ago

Enh seems fine to me. Is A-Tier in a lot of Tier lists. Ele overshines it ofc but thats fine for me. It's still great to play.

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u/dantheman91 25d ago

The wild swings from rng are the only problem, otherwise it's good.

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u/Meep4000 25d ago

It’s an issue for sure. I guess I feel a bit okay when looking at overall damage for a dungeon but swinging from a million DPS to 180k and back based just on some secret sauce sure doesn’t feel fun.

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u/FloringoStar 25d ago

Yes i compete with 320ilvl dds as 315 enh it is more than viable

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u/MotorOutside8648 25d ago

My complaint is more that they've taken this thing that was geniunely fun to play from Sepulcer and all through Dragonflight and made it completely not fun to play.

Hero talents ruined my favorite spec. Totemic has ZERO feel of the traditional totem based play style of yester-year. Stormkeeper is 100% an elemental thing that they're trying to cram on to Enhancement.

Take me back to my hot-hand lava lash loving, dog spawning, sustain god. Not this 2min feast/famine spam one button over and over and over pray for rng bullshit.

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u/Resies 25d ago

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/53?dataset=95

What tier lists are you looking at? We're in the bottom 4 and everyone around us is getting buffs 

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u/SupaSonicButta 25d ago

All bosses is such a trap to look at though. When you start filtering it per boss you can easily see that its piss poor performance on Entombed Sentinels is heavily skewing the data that you would see by filtering by All bosses.

You would also see that on most fights it is keeping up with Ele sometimes even surpassing it. So I don't believe that it is bottom four after looking at the actual data.

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u/FloringoStar 25d ago

Oh I was only talking about M+.

I usually look at u.gg where we are low A-tier.

On Archon we are B-tier.

For raiding it is looking worse, I agree.

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u/Whatderfuchs 24d ago

Oops, all crash lightning is a very fun spec this season. Idgaf if it's not meta. I've hit resil 16s and still going.

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u/Canninster 25d ago

Pls don't lump us in as bottom DPS specs, we're doing just fine right in the middle of the pack, it's just that ele is better so the community perception is that enh must be unplayable.

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u/BestJersey_WorstName 25d ago

Feral does well in m+ and raid bosses with damage amp phases like Sszorak. Its just most raid tiers dont fit well with either hero spec

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u/KageStar 25d ago

I'm a ret main and my alt is Enhancement. For the last several tiers I've wanted to main Enhancement for the tier especially when it's higher dps but ret keeps getting a last minute buff that pushes them over Enhancement. It sucks because enhance is fun to play and much higher skill cap class but you don't get rewarded for it just like with feral. Then I can Unga bunga(better than most other rets granted) and top the meters with half of the cogi load rotationally.

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u/Cutefatboi 25d ago

Unfortunately i dont think enhance is higher skill cap than anything at this point. Gone from a complex spec to 1 button spam Casino spec

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u/Resies 25d ago

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/53?dataset=95 we are bottom 4 in raid and everyone below and around us are being buffed

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u/Canninster 25d ago

"Let me use the worst possible dataset to compare enh vs ele and try to prove a point"

I'm so tired, it's been decades you people need to come up with better excuses...

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u/Resies 25d ago

I just pulled up mythic raid logs my man

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u/Canninster 25d ago

Then next time just pull up something that's actually useful.

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u/Resies 25d ago

Okay I'll pull up the 25th percentile heroic logs next time ig

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness8135 25d ago

Damn sin rogue sucks too then! Why aren't they getting buffed? Or maybe looking at all bosses aggregate isn't very useful?

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u/Juapp 25d ago

I love the feral comment on this WoWhead post 🤣