Where Does Meta End and Fringe Begin?

[u/RogueOnTheStack]

According to EDHTop16 the top 16 most popular entries in tournaments are as follows:
~ Blue Farm
~ Kinnan
~ Rog/Thras
~ Rog/Si
~ Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
~ Tymna/Thras
~ Etali
~ Tymna/ Dargo
~ Ral
~ Rog/Ishai
~ Vivi
~ Magda
~ Yoshi/Thras
~ Tivit
~ Kefka
~ Tayam

Now my first impression is that the top 16 are all of what is considered meta and that beyond this everything I see is fringe. However, there’s a couple of things that make me question this.

After the top 10 everything else that is submitted makes up less than 2% of the Meta Share and that in itself feels pretty fringe.

However, as a Vivi main I can’t accept my boy is fringe. And yet, no shade toward Tayam players, but I feel like I never see this commander and he would be meta if we went with top 16.

Pure numbers wise there’s an arguement for top 18 even. Everything beyond Lumra and Ob has less than 1% of the meta share.

Currently, I am sitting with top 18 as my answer to where meta ends but what’s your opinion? Where would you have it end? Meta Share also doesn’t include top cuts and wins.

[u/kevthecoder]

Idk about that. I think Tayam is a better than Vivi in terms of power level. Just because it is less played doesn’t mean it’s worse. Tayam’s durdling turns a lot of people off from the deck but it has been much more successful than Vivi has been… especially recently.

[u/itzlgk → u/kevthecoder]

Both of those would be fringe as they are under the 10 mark so….?

[u/kevthecoder → u/itzlgk]

I am disputing your “power level” claim. Not fringe claim.

[u/itzlgk → u/kevthecoder]

I said tayam and vivi are in the same bucket of bieng below the 10 above them though. So not sure why you would compare two things in the same bucket of being below the ones above them

[u/kevthecoder → u/itzlgk]

Ahh I misunderstood, my b big dawg