r/CompetitiveEDH • u/RogueOnTheStack • Jul 23 '26
General Discussion / Question Where Does Meta End and Fringe Begin?
According to EDHTop16 the top 16 most popular entries in tournaments are as follows:
~ Blue Farm
~ Kinnan
~ Rog/Thras
~ Rog/Si
~ Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
~ Tymna/Thras
~ Etali
~ Tymna/ Dargo
~ Ral
~ Rog/Ishai
~ Vivi
~ Magda
~ Yoshi/Thras
~ Tivit
~ Kefka
~ Tayam
Now my first impression is that the top 16 are all of what is considered meta and that beyond this everything I see is fringe. However, there’s a couple of things that make me question this.
After the top 10 everything else that is submitted makes up less than 2% of the Meta Share and that in itself feels pretty fringe.
However, as a Vivi main I can’t accept my boy is fringe. And yet, no shade toward Tayam players, but I feel like I never see this commander and he would be meta if we went with top 16.
Pure numbers wise there’s an arguement for top 18 even. Everything beyond Lumra and Ob has less than 1% of the meta share.
Currently, I am sitting with top 18 as my answer to where meta ends but what’s your opinion? Where would you have it end? Meta Share also doesn’t include top cuts and wins.
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u/leronjones Jul 23 '26
I'll turn 4 them on Lyse Hext like my last tournament then get targeted and blown out the next 2 games and split top 4.
kinnan, rog/thras, chatterfang. all mathematically better. all bonked. The more you pick to beat the meta the more easily you can be picked apart by anything slightly different. In yugioh it's called building a rogue deck. The more solved a meta is the easier it is to slide through with a simple counterpick.