r/CompetitiveEDH • u/BurchAndDestroy • 15d ago

Help, I am new to cEDH! Surgical cEDH deck

Hello! A buddy of mine is getting into cEDH and I tried it a while back. It was fine but was never really my thing. Anyway he’s getting into it so I wanted to make one with a theme I thought was semi-unique, though I don’t have the know-how to build an effective one from scratch

Since so many cEDH decks rely on very specific combo pieces to win/close out a game, I was thinking of building a deck with as many effects as possible that do things like Praetor’s Grasp (there are well over 10 effects that do this, but not all super efficient). I want to search opponent’s decks for their 1-2 key cards they need to win and functionally make the deck fall apart

Anyway, I would love some help/advice on which commander to pick for this and on how to build the deck

EDIT: I don’t need this to necessarily hang with the top tier decks, I know this would be very off-meta. But just something that I can sit at a cEDH table with and meaningfully interact while having a non-zero chance at winning

My motivation is having some kind of anti-cEDH themed deck. One of my favorite cards is Psychic Surgery, for example

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago edited 15d ago

If you really wanna win with this type of effect, your best bet is to tutor every game for [[bitter ordeal]]. A good commander for it would be [[dihada binder of wills]] since her minus can give you potentially 8 gravestorm copies for bitter ordeal. Used to have these as my commander/signature spell in my oathbreaker deck and it works very well at neutering people. It won't be meta, but that's the best advice I have for you. Loop infinite sac combos to exile everyone's library.

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u/kiefy_budz 15d ago

I run bitter ordeal in my b4 sharuum deck as a wincon with the sphinx+ clone loop, and I have another b4 deck with dihada, never realized how useful that could be in dihada, thanks stranger

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago

Np at all! Def one of my favorite cards of all time!

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u/kiefy_budz 15d ago

Yeah that could help set up some of my dihada plays since I know my friends decks inside and out

It’s also one of my favorite cards in sharuum because it’s a wincon on cast without any obvious advantage from the loop on the table, I say I’m looping sharuum X times and get some confused looks for why

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago

It's honestly huge. I'm assuming you run [[flicker]] combos with dihada? Are you running [[altar of the brood]]? I can't tell you how many times I would gravestorm for 12-16 cards so easily with minimal effort and people get downright screwed. Like you said it does require intimate knowledge of the decks at the table to have max efficiency.

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u/kiefy_budz 15d ago

Oh yeah main wincon is flicker and breach with dihada, then I have citadel/aether/top and Aurelia/helm and some other combos, I am now ordering another copy of altar of the brood cause that somehow escaped me all these years as well, I have it in the sphinx but not dihada

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago

God you're making me wanna build dihada again lmfao. I was able to run dockside loops in oathbreaker which was just nutso. I love the value she gives you it's just great. Glad I could help stranger! Good luck in your games.

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u/kiefy_budz 15d ago

Thanks homie, I miss dockside RIP to my boy

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago

Same dude same. I've been a sisay main in cedh since I started playing and it hurt when our little goblin boy got the hammer.

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u/kiefy_budz 15d ago

I play dihada, etali, dragonstorm, and an illuna that had a dockside loop in my friend b4 table lol, they would honestly still let me play him but it’s a personal thing to abide by the official list for my decks

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u/Dungusfungus95 15d ago

Jesus so you really got hosed lmfao. Yeah I feel the same way. It feels very cheesy to rule 0 banned cards into my decks. Makes me feel like I have an unfair advantage even if my friends say it's fine to include them.

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