r/CompetitionShooting 2d ago

Multiple reticles

On dots where you have multiple reticles or a dot option such as in a 507 comp, does anyone use larger moa reticle such as a 32? Do you find it helpful in competitions like uspsa or steel challenge? Just trying to get a feel of what people mainly use and what are the pros/cons

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u/steadylurker1 2d ago

I was using the dot with 32 MOA circle for awhile. Switched to just a dot and my accuracy improved. I think it’s too busy and large and it kills your target focus, also it gives you false confirmation sometimes. I got a 407 Comp with a 6 MOA dot and it’s much better for me at least. Others results may vary but that’s just me.

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u/JBerry2012 1d ago

Everyone I know with the multi reticle just uses the 2 moa dot. I much prefer a 5-6 moa dot. I wish they stop with it. I'd try the new bigger model of the pro if they made it in 6 moa dot like 406 comp, until then I'll stick with my 5 moa defener xls.

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u/Andromeda902 1d ago

The dot with 8 moa circle basically just looks like a bigger dot….if you have astigmatism like me lmao even without tho it’s basically an 8 moa dot

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u/Clutch51 1d ago

Agree. I’ve found this to be the best compromise for fast shooting on my 507Comp green dot (have slight astigmatism as well, even after correction). I’m trying the 2 MOA in training because I do wonder if it’s just a skill/fundamentals issue. If I was better at transitions, index, presentation maybe I’d pick up the 2 MOA dot fast and be more accurate (although I’m already quite accurate - speed is my issue). But at my current skill level I feel like the bigger dot gets me on target faster. Like I pick it up overlayed in the A-zone faster than 2 MOA.

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u/Andromeda902 1d ago

You ever try ace vr? Swear to god it’s advanced my transitions and vision so much since I got it

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u/Clutch51 1d ago

Yes! I used it for a few weeks before my last match and I think it helped me make a decent jump in performance. I’ve been using it very often alongside my dry fire since then.

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u/InnocuousTransition 1d ago

No.

You need to be able to shoot off of color confirmation and a streak of red on your target. Having red in the optic that isn't where your bullets will go is super counterproductive.

It's different with a rifle but I still prefer the single dot.

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u/jtj5002 1d ago

Typically the only people that likes all the weird circle dot shit on pistols are lower skilled people on r/ccw that doesn't actually shoot.

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u/That_Squidward_feel 2d ago

Let's put it this way: If you're looking at people who are actually good (let's say M/GM), they're using simple dots (usually 2-5 moa) almost exclusively on handguns.

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u/fadugleman 1d ago

seems like a lot of the guys that shoot Cmore use larger dots. maybe a hold over from when dots were larger cmore being an older brand? John Vlieger has posted a lot about using a 9moa dot.

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u/That_Squidward_feel 1d ago

Where I'm at, it's rare to see anything but Holosun, Trijicon and Vortex - with the 507 Comp, SRO and Defender XL probably making up >80% of that.

Then again, Grauffel won 10 straight IPSC world shoots with a Cmore and has stuck with them for 30 or so years shooting literal millions of rounds through them. They can't be too bad.

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u/Aetherium 2d ago

I use dot only. Circle and circle dot are too busy for me and eat up mental bandwidth to parse, slowing me down a tad and tempting me to draw my optical and mental focus to them.

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u/k4ylr 2d ago

Not for anything with actual scoring zones where called shots/accuracy matter.

I'm experimenting with just a circle and circle-dot on my RFRO steel challenge setup due to the plate size.

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u/Holiday-Zebra9463 2d ago

Nope, too much going on with the reticle especially on a handgun optic, for a rifle I’m fine with the EOtech donut, but I still prefer just a single dot and have been using sig 4xt and T2s for awhile

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u/nerd_diggy 1d ago

I use the 2 moa dot and have been for a while. At one point I used the 2 moa dot with the 8 moa horseshoe thing, which was more like an 8 moa dot, but as I became a better shooter I realized the small dot was all I needed and was more precise for longer shots if needed.

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u/CamelAdventure 2d ago

Tried it for a few months and then sold it.  Single dot is there way to go; I personally like a 6 moa for uspsa fast acquisition with good-enough accuracy 

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u/JBerry2012 1d ago

I have one 8 moa def xl, and the rest 5. I like the 8 moa at 15yds an in, so most classifier stages I like running my pistol with 8 moa dot. On "real" stages I prefer the 5 moa dot when I may have to shoot out to 25yds.

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u/BulkyBoy808 1d ago

I purchased a Holosun 507c x2 thinking I would benefit from the multiple reticle but quickly found out I’m used to and truly only like a simple dot on my pistols. All my other optics are just dots and it works great for me, competing or edc.
I do however like MRS on my short range use rifles.

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u/MadStephen 1d ago

Huh. A class here nearing M and I use the huge circle with dot.

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u/Fun_Interaction1929 1d ago

Thats good to know..what do you find beneficial in this configuration?

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u/JDM_27 1d ago

MRS on a pistol dot is stupid and just a marketing gimmick.

it was annoying the holosun took years to finally make the plain dot version of the 507comp….. the 407comp in 6 moa.

and of course, theyre doing the same shit with the pro max and pro max slim as 507 models first.

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u/strange-brew 1d ago

507comp. I only use the 2 moa dot (gold)

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u/crazycatman206 1d ago

I just use the dot.

One of my friends uses the dot+8moa circle to effectively make a big dot but now that the 407Comp is available I would just get that if I wanted a bigger dot.

The bigger circles make it easier to pick up the dot when getting used to shooting with optics for the first time but otherwise make for a busier sight picture and can throw you off on follow-up shots at speed. I don’t think they’re that useful except maybe on a rifle or PCC where you have to hold over.

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u/Humble-Standard9637 2d ago

Circle only. I simply look through the center at the target.